Why is RE4 so highly praised but not RE5? They're essentially the same game mechanically. >inb4 RE4 was spookier and still true to resident evil
False. RE4 was first and foremost an action game as well. And actually, I remember jumping a few times and being on edge in the more tense situations in RE5. The same cant be said for RE4.
People say the friendly AI in RE5 is bad and more of a liability than an asset, but the same can be said for Ashley in RE4. Plus there's no comfy co op in RE4. Not to mention RE5 is more difficult than RE4 so that adds to the fun factor.
don't really know, all I know is that 5 was really fucking fun with an actual rl partner. never played it any other way, so I could never relate to the majority of the complaints it received. doesn't mean they're wrong, it just seems to have been made for co-op play.
Joseph Turner
Leon > Chris
Lucas Morales
RE4 did it first so you have the cavalry of praise (many of whom are not original RE fans). Then RE5 comes out and this entire new fan base is like, “Wesker? Chris Redfield?”
I’m convinced the shift in fanbase is why RE5 is criticized more harshly. I liked both and I’ve played every RE game except the Revelations.
Nathaniel Gonzalez
That's the only reason people need. I've played RE5 more than any other game in the series but at least 4 tried to be scary at times.
Easton Ross
>the same can be said for Ashley in RE4 Nah, Ashley doesn't actively get herself killed on higher difficulties. She can hide, duck, and stay behind you at pretty much all times. The areas in which she would be a pain to have around are the areas where she's taken away before you even enter them. Ashley's not much of a problem at all.
Sheva's apparently a PITA in some areas on Professional mode, but I can't vouch for it. You can at least tell her to provide cover instead of running off, though.
William Clark
would anyone want to play this on PC co op next week?
Thomas Cooper
I drop RE5 every time the cover-shooting comes into play, it just immediately stops being any semblance of fun. That shit is jank.
I'm not the sentimental type, I still think RE6/DS3 were fine, but RE5 just has a lot of bullshit that doesn't work. Peaks in the Pre-Irving levels and the boating level.
RE5 is a great, if not, the best co-op game ever. But Capcom just copy pasta'd RE4 and made it into co-op, as that was the trend in 2009.
A shame, as all of the ideas that were discussed years before the game's launch were scrapped in favour of RE4 co-op in Africa
>AI in RE5 is bad and more of a liability than an asset, but the same can be said for Ashley in RE4 That doesn't make sense. Ashley is just a dumb rock you're meant to protect. She doesn't run off and do stupid shit. This "RE4 is just a bit escort mission with dumb Ashley AI" is just more revisionism to the Resident Evil franchise, as evident in RE3.
Due to the shitty inventory system in RE5 and Sheva being "active" in terms of combat, it causes so many more variables and thus more issues.
Camden Wright
The actual game is fine but olaying with the AI is goddamn awful. Aside from actual gameplay fuckups the inventory management aspect of the game means you have to go through incredibly tedious swaps constantly.
Alexander Hernandez
Look at 4's opening section in the village and then 5's. 5's opening village section is 4's but worse. Now apply that to the entire game
Grayson Brooks
No, 4 doesn't come to a screeching halt. Also I don't have to convince a co-op partner to sit through it or babysit retarded AI.
I've hemorrhaged so many co-op partners to RE5, more than any other game. Where the fuck are all these people claiming it's a fun co-op game coming from?
Austin Collins
Wanna hear something funny?
Resident Evil 5 was released in 2009. It will be 20 years-old by 2029. Resident Evil 4 is 15 years-old right now. Its already getting a remake. RE4 is Capcom's fourth best selling game of all time. RE5 is the second best selling. Screencap this, we will be getting a RE5 remake before this decade ends.
Tyler Morales
I doubt it dude. RE5 was when people stopped taking RE seriously. It was the first game in the downward spiral that lasted for years
Nicholas Turner
Pacing and level design. That's why.
Easton Collins
Not really, there are some improvements over RE4 (robust melee combat for example) but overall it's not enjoyable or memorable as RE4. Some missions are terrible, like the car-chasing scene and then giant boss fight. The rising platform is also terrible because it's difficult to aim precisely. Sheva as a partner is worse than Ashley simply because her AI can't handle the enemies. If you for example give her a rocket launcher and set her to Attack she would blow up you or herself. Lickers and cockroachs are fun, but gatling guys are not. Ouroboros is also not interesting as the pale skin boss theme in RE4.
Xavier Torres
>muh inventory casual shitter detected. no pause mid combat for you. that's one thing 5 got right, made fights way more intense
Robert Lee
One of the coolest things about 5 is managing your inventory while in a melee attack animation.
Jose Collins
5 is a shitty 4 that's designed for co-op, and fuck co-op.
Isaiah Gomez
Nothing to do with not pausing mid combat. Having to fuck around only having 9 spaces while the game throws at you shit loads of weapons, ammo, grenades, and health to juggle around with is insanity. The game dosen't tell you to, but knowing that at a checkpoint you can "reset" back into the inventory managment/merchant screen while keeping progress saves so much bullshit
Ryan Brown
>Forced co-op partner is fucking awful. Don't tell me "It's good with friends" because a fucking funeral is fun with friends. >Ungodly amount of QTEs, every bossfight is pro mode Salazar tier. >Spongy enemies. Just compare the chainsaw and minigun guys. >The movement is typical over the shoulder console shooter instead of the pseudo tank controls from RE4. >Inventory removes all resource management from the game, even worse in replays because every gun can have infinite ammo. >Melee got the shaft because co-op partner is fucking retarded. >Sheva is just boring in general. No one remembers anything about her save for the unlock able leopard print bikini. >Hitscan enemies.
Jeremiah Hill
If kijuju was 2 hours longer and their would be one chapter at night in the city 10/10 no complain but in the game we seem to rush out of the city as fast as we can and their is literally no night scene except the end on the boat and a turret seuece against nigigante, it's really weird i feel like they got scared because black people would be to black in the dark so they made it all in day time
Ryder Nelson
And you can just drag ammo into your weapons in the inventory to instantly reload any weapon. So much for tension.
Aiden Garcia
I love RE4 and 5 but I've played 5 more times. it has more content and is very fun multiplayer.
Logan Watson
>but the same can be said for Ashley in RE4 You are a brainlet if Ashley caused issues for you. She followed closely, would stay put at the press of a button, and in certain areas, you could tell her to hop in a dumpster while you go to town on Ganados.
Isaac Turner
Because unlike 5, 4 actually had a genuine horror element to it. RE5 barely even tried to be scary, instead relying way too much on the action elements. Whereas 4 had a good blend of horror and action, 5 just made the horror near nonexistent while cranking up the action slider to 11. Niggers just aren't as scary as cultist farmer villagers, especially when you're basically just mowing down swarms of them with a machine gun.
Brayden Wilson
5 was a retread with a worse story. Not that that made it a bad game, I had a lot of fun, but it's not as good as 4 as a result.
Ayden Rodriguez
This, tetris inventory is much more fun than quick swap inventory. In the RE4 remake I think they will keep the tetris inventory system but allow binding like REmake2.
Sebastian White
The co-op/AI gimmick ruins it
Adam Campbell
Enemies are only bullet sponges with unupgraded weapons. The game is actually difficult on the higher difficulties if you want it to be or it can be easier depending on if you have upgraded or unupgraded weapons with you. There is so much replay value to this game. Also sheva is fucking best girl
Ryder Sanchez
I will also say that while I like RE5, the tone of the game was decidedly not scary.
>hurr hurr, no video game is scary
No one cares what you think. RE4 had you traversing gothic locales, had creepy chanting cultists, and mostly took place at night or on a cloudy day.
Aaron Hill
RE5 just isn't that good and it began what many saw as a long slide. I played the demo for RE5 and decided to pass on the game since I had already played the village section in RE4. I did like the on rails shooters but I just happen to like those kinds of games and they really don't get many releases so Umbrella and Darkside Chronicles were an itch scratched.
Tyler Brown
Find the terrorist is way better than rescue the president daughter
Kayden Cruz
Anyone here still hasn't done the Jill/Josh mini campaign?
Luke Rodriguez
You guys should download the Alone in Africa mod to totally remove the AI partner. It makes the game feel more like RE4 and less like a generic Western TPS
Ian Long
It's not the lack of pause it's just the fact that AI can't be trusted and juggling items is tedious. The game was just clearly designed for two actual thinking people.
Jacob Baker
Does the game give advantages to the AI partner on higher difficulties? I've played the game with AI on veteran only and I don't remember having problems with it.
Charles Russell
No it's not fuck you.
Christian Harris
I remember starting it. I don't know if I finished.
Jose Williams
Well the "rumors" are that RE8 will have RE4's inventory. Which makes be believe that REmake 4 is certain to be a shitty asset flip of RE8. But whatever, that's for a different thread.
I love the tetris inventory though. Good shit.
Isaac Carter
only from 1 to 4 matters
Levi Thompson
>You guys should download the Alone in Africa mod to totally remove the AI partner This is the first time in my life I regret not being a PCfag
Austin White
> Why is REmake so highly praised but not RE0? They're essentially the same game mechanically Get it yet?
Jonathan Harris
Sheva killed herself or died a lot in Professional. I stopped doing a pro run when she kept dying in the area just after the dark cave where you have to use a lantern. At least she has better aim than me. I always put her on the grenade launcher in Irving fight because I can never ever hit him with it.
Hunter Garcia
I was thinking about mercenaries mode, obviously you can cheese the campaign by bringing infinite ammo magnum guns. The only difficult part of the campaign is getting the braindead CPU partner to hold Jill during her bossfight. Also Sheva is a cardboard cut-out, tell me what's her personality, any unique traits, hopes, dreams? Nothing, she is just some random pretty African woman whit a generic Batman backstory. 90% chance you are a coomer with jungle fever.