I’ve noted a lot of the information given to me, tomorrow I’ll be working on it all day and will then put all the evidence I find together in a thread for Yas Forums to look at.
If anyone finds additional evidence to help then it would be appreciated too.
I’ll then look to contact SE Europe as of Tuesday and attempt to get email addresses of senior contacts or legal team at SE, along with contact information for relevant gaming media journalists and have it as an open letter.
That’s the plan anyway for now...I’ll be on again tomorrow at 8pm UK time (strictly speaking later today as it’s 2am now) so if others want to carry on the thread and help it would be much appreciated.
>Yoshinori Kitase: “The fans have been waiting for 23 years for this game, and I’m happy we’ve been finally able to deliver it to them. It’s a full-fledged game that can be enjoyed by itself, but its story is far from over. With this first game, we showed how there is great potential for the future, and we included many hints regarding what’s coming next. I’m looking forward to seeing the fans’ theories on social media regarding what could happen now. We will keep in touch with everyone so we can all make this project grow together.”
Daily reminder that Kitase and Nomura are purposely doing it for the seethes.
You're going to get slammed with "Subject to change without notice" clause on essentially every piece of media ever made, not to mention false advertising has to be deliberately and knowingly false with the intent to deceive. Any good judge, who has a vested interest in not wasting their own time, will advise you to reconsider your decision.
Xavier Harris
Is this re FF7R? If so do you have source please?
Adrian Wilson
gamefaqs
Sebastian Wilson
please keep posting, i wanna laugh hard when you get fucked
Nicholas Cox
You dont have a case OP We all hate the game but you arent getting anywhere
Nicholas Rivera
Im going to bed now user, laugh at me tomorrow if you want when I post another thread.
Ty user, I’ll keep that in mind. I suspect that if this is the case then SE legal team can direct me to this, if I’m able to direct them to material or interviews where it’s not stated then perhaps that’ll give me a better idea about where I stand
Parker Thomas
Another plea to OP to not bring the box to court even if they ask you for proof of purchase and definitely definitely don't bring up the proper noun "FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE" project written at the back
I saw you post this in the other thread, I don’t believe this disclaimer does anything to say it will or won’t be faithful to the original - the developers own interviews however do!
Justin Harris
who cares if he gets nowhere. bad publicity is still a huge win and will be a PR nightmare for SE
Aaron Morris
Well good luck anyways. Your cause is just, they knew calling it what it is FF7-2 would mean less sales. They lied about the game openly and continuously
Jayden Harris
based nips. too bad they down burn down SE headquarters
Ryder Parker
That would be great, I doubt they’d risk something so big though on a pro bono basis - huge potential losses with no gain. I’m happy to fight the good fight alone if I need to.
>The world has fallen under the control of the Shinra Electric Power Company, a shadowy corporation controlling the planet’s very life force as mako energy.
>In the sprawling city of Midgar, an anti-Shinra organization calling themselves Avalanche have stepped up their resistance. Cloud Strife, a former member of Shinra’s elite SOLDIER unit now turned mercenary, lends his aid to the group, unaware of the epic consequences that await him.
>The story of this first, standalone game in the FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE project covers up to the party’s escape from Midgar, and goes deeper into the events occurring in Midgar than the original FINAL FANTASY VII.
Owen Reed
talk about how they wrote in the false advertising into "plot spoilers" as a way to hide it wasn't actually a sequel
Cooper Morgan
I refuse to play the game, but I can say earnestly you stand nowhere... probably. I don't know how legal discourse works in your country, but in mine false advertising as a civil charge is more about the claims of what a product can do and if it's intentionally made to defraud customers. For arts and media is different. If someone involved in the production of a movie says, "It's the greatest movie ever," you can't really take them to court because you can't prove fraud.
Carson Thomas
there are a surprising amount of people mad about it being only midgar, but i guess most people don't really keep up with gaming news. they just hear about FF7 being remade and assume it's the full thing. also who knows what crazy otaku will do.
Making claims of quality are one thing, since quality cannot be objectively quantified. But making claims such as "It is very faithful to the original [work]" can be verified through inspection and contrasting, and if such claims are found to be baseless, then you have a case.
Jackson Roberts
A better analogy would be a movie advertising itself as a tragedy and then turns out to be a comedy Like our society
Zachary Sanders
please stop I want to get off this timeline where you forcibly stop me from seeing a remade cid beating the fuck outta shera and Vincent in a coffin. if you don't like it so much just play the OG or better yet get corona and die
>1997年にPlayStation®で発売された『FINAL FANTASY VII』の主要スタッフが手掛ける『FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE』。壮大な物語や魅力的なキャラクター、当時の最先端技術が駆使された映像で多くの人を魅了した不朽の名作が、時を経て「新たな物語」として生まれ変わります。コマンドバトルと直感的アクションが融合することで戦略性は高くなり、現代のグラフィック技術によって『FINAL FANTASY VII』の世界をリアルに再現、再生しております。
Grayson Brown
Was it misleading? Yes. A ton of it was misleading. But misleading isn't going to be determined to be false. There's a large window where companies can do shit like this and never risk being punished for it. Even if they do cross the line the legal hurdles to even attempt to get them to admit it are far more costly than people are willing to pursue all for the sake of getting back your $60.
As customers we don't have any fucking choice but to simply never pre-order games or buy them on day-one. It's a shitty reality but it's our reality.
That being said if you really are trying to pursue this legally then fucking good luck. If you defy fate and beat all the odds then that would be good for me as a customer. I'm not going to hold my breath though.
no one cares what some weeaboo faggot thinks about some old ass game remade
Justin Morales
fuck off shill
Evan Reyes
You have to prove that person's interpretation of the matter and how much control over the entire project they had to have a case. After that, you must prove active fraudulence. It's not impossible, but it's highly unlikely. Both of our analogies are bad. Clearly, it's not statements of quality, not statements of genre... it's statements to "how close is this to the original?" I would be interested in seeing this pan out actually, but a good judge probably would allow this to spare a plaintiff.
literally the best game square has made in 20 years. they haven't put so much soul into a game since the original FF7
Lucas Thomas
>Take a beloved classic >Imply that you will faithfully recreate it >Actually change fucking everything, taking a huge, steaming shit on the original work's legacy >Get away scot-free due to how retarded legal systems are
As admirable as OP's goal is, it's a pipe dream. We can only hope there are enough consumers in nippon land who are angry enough to voice their opinions en masse.
Nice, but I'm gonna sue them next when they release Final Final Fantasy 2
Jaxson Wood
Honestly op will get laughed out and nomira will come down and say hes going to shit over part 2
Tyler Foster
Nothing more soulless than a remake that incinerates its story.
David Turner
absolutely. I've only played a little bit past that one part where you're fighting the spectres. Still dreading that they ruin the story, but so far very much enjoying my time.
I hope this is telling for final fantasy games to come.
Cameron Sanchez
Nope, I'm married.
Cameron Young
>and goes deeper into the events occurring in Midgar than the original FINAL FANTASY VII. There you have it. It clearly says the differences are going to be deeper but not different, or a complete sequel. It clearly says its the same plot but in more detail.
Its not.
Adrian Wright
Where did this all start?
Dylan Ward
Why are so many people overlooking the obvious love and soul, it's fucking everywhere and obvious.
I want autismos to calm the hell down, they know you've played the original and want to show you how much you love it, but they also want to play with you for wanting it to be Remade for so long and I think it's a really neat avenue to take it.
