I want a gaming PC but I am poor. Are used business PCs a good starting point?
The ones I see seem to have 2nd and 3rd generation i5's and i7's. Are those still good enough to game on?
I want a gaming PC but I am poor. Are used business PCs a good starting point?
Jack Reyes
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Joshua White
yep
Lucas Jackson
Typically no. They have a decent processor but since there's no dedicated GPU they can't handle shit. That said, if you can get one for cheap and modify it, you're in a good spot
Isaiah Ortiz
i would buy one then throw a GTX 1650 in it
Austin Garcia
Post the exact specs and price. You probably need a dedicated GPU anyways. Otherwise you can look at new Ryzens APU, they are surprisingly powerful for integrated cards.
Also, you realize that you cant play RDR2 and other big budget modern AAA games on such toasters right? At least not in good quality.
Nathaniel Hernandez
tpbp
Jack Taylor
here's a serious reply
1. get a used dell optiplex
2. find a graphics card that is supported by that system (and fits)
3. congrats you have a 'gaming' rig under 100$
Your mileage may vary- obviously you won't be able to play recent AAA games
Jordan Young
I would try to find one with an i7 probably won't be much price difference. A lot of people are still gaming on a sandy bridge intel. CPU requirements have not really went up all that much and there haven't been major advances in CPUs. Consoles using really old slow AMD APUs has meant developers have avoided extremely CPU heavy features. The issue your going to run into is you will probably need to upgrade to 16GBs of ram (though depending on the application many workstations should already have that or more). Biggest issue your going to run into is being able to fit a modern GPU or even having a PCI E slot for it. OEM Mobos often tend to have the bare minimum with weird designs an little to no expansion slots so just keep an eye out and make sure there is a 16x PCI E slot. Might be less of an issue with a larger PC like you posted. If you get lucky and find an old CAD workstation or something it might have a workstation GPU (can still be used for games but probably would be removed because they are thousands of dollars new) or some other kind of cheaper GPU.
Oliver Jones
>2. find a graphics card that is supported by that system (and fits)
Yup this is the biggest thing to look out for. Avoid any and all kinds of smaller OEM models because the only thing that will fit in those is very low end GPUs that can fit a low profile.
Cooper Reyes
No dude. Business PCs are low end, and usually dont even have a fucking graphics card at all, let alone a good one
Dominic Bailey
yes opitplex are overkill still
anything above 7010
Connor Cox
>local company went bankrupt, ended up getting a optiplex off them
>tfw they put a i7 in the damn thing
>slapped a 2060 rtx in it, swapped out the psu and btfo the shit out of my brother's custom built rig
>mfw
OP, keep in mind you might need to nab a psu converter to properly use any psu outside of the original on a optiplex because of their proprietary psu port on the motherboard
Jaxson Jackson
can't wait till used business pcs have thunderbolt 3 then you can just get an egpu
Carter Roberts
If you shop around, you might be able to land one with an i7 and 8gb of ram for around $200. Pair that with a decent PSU + GPU and it will probably run you around $400-$500.
That said, you'll probably end up replacing most of the components except the CPU and RAM. Unless you need something right away and you plan to upgrade it later, I would save your money and buy new parts instead.
Grayson Price
depends on how good deal can you get on one.
in general, it's perfectly viable route for some gayming on the cheap. problem with those is fuck-weak cheapest lowest quality psu they could shove inside (we're talking 300w range) so used gpu's are generally out of the question with their powerdraw.
and when you add up new entry tier gpu or used one+new psu and new mass storage (never used used drives, there is no knowing what filth was in there) you just doubled purchase price and possibly are looking at whole vairety of risks involved with used stuff (you are more likely to be told to go fuck yourself than get your money back in case you got swindled into buying faulty equipment)
not to mention unexpected variables, like motherboard requiring propietary ram and/or psu (while unlikely, it's possibility you can't completely rule out given how half-assed listings on secondary market are)
personally, i'd advise to pony up on some poorfag tier setup around ryzen 2200g(played, doom eternal on it, albait on minimal settings) and enjoy your modern platform with actual upgrade path and pack of warranties
Cooper Carter
If you're smart about computer hardware and know how to haggle, there are terrific deals to be found on Craigslist. I bought my last two PC's via Craigslist.
Connor White
Is this a serie x?
Lucas Williams
As mentioned, anything past Optiplex 7010 will have a shitty proprietary connector for the PSU. If that's a problem, you're limited to third-gen CPUs.
Also for the love of god, don't buy an Elitedesk.
Levi Bailey
Facebook marketplace is also great. There's way more normies who don't know what they have.
Bentley Diaz
most of them have a small form factor and a shitty intergrated PSU, making them unsuitable for expansion
my friend got a really nice HP desktop but an underclocked 1050 was the only video card he could fit in
Evan Perry
Get a new case, or modify the case. I have two desktops from work that I recycled from my users. One requires some drilling to remove built in HDD bays and then it can fit a full GPU. The other can only fit a mini GPU as it has a small form factor.
Dominic Price
I like where your head's at, but people like you buy consoles.
Adrian Martin
prebuilts usually have garbage proprietary power supplies/mobo, best card they will support is something like 750ti which is pretty bad for today standards.
Alexander Lewis
/g/ buys a lot of old workstation office computers. A newish i5 and 8gb of RAM will do pretty much anything these days, except game, and you can get a gfx card seperately.
And they're built to last and be somewhat easy to service. Though don't fall for the Thinkpad meme if you want to play games, they're great for everything except that.
Jeremiah Long
yes but their psus are usually trash and dont have pci-e connectors, if its compatible with a generic atx PSU then get 1, add a psu and cheap video card
John Watson
check his videos he has pretty good ones with budget setups
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Carter Turner
Sort of, be prepared to get fucked by random shit like the bios not recognizing a graphics card.
I bet RDR2 runs fine on an old sandy bridge i7, 16 GB of ddr3 and an RX 470 at console FPS and optimized settings. The CPUs in the consoles are beyond shit.
Jaxon Richardson
this is exactly what I did. got one with an i5 2500 and put a 750ti in that didn't need a power supply connection. to upgrade it later I got a new power supply, more ram, and a gtx 1060 and I use it to this day. i got the optiplex 5 years ago though. now you're likely better off just building something from scratch unless there are good enough cards that don't require a psu connection in 2020
Jayden Butler
The best course of action would to stop being poor.
You'll be able to afford a great PC as well as many other great things.
This should be your focus, stop settling for less.
Logan Richardson
yeah get one with any newish i7 and get a med tier gcard after you save up. “gaming” pc for under 800 noice
Eli Gomez
i have a 1660 super. the new generation of ram is probably better i was told.
Michael Wright
yes you get a bisnness desktop for peanuts and then slap a gpu in. the suit brainlets go “i7? can it open word? ok buy a bunch of them compiters” and then they buy a bunch in bulk
Brody Long
i feel the game is just kinda poorly optimised. i have a 1660 and an i5 6600k and still barely get straight 60fps, even with everything other than textures on low (game looks great with everything on low but textures on High)
Caleb Rivera
I went this route, OP. But do your research! The Optiplex 7010 MT (mini tower) supports up to 75 watts on the blue PCI Express. This is important to know depending on the card you're getting.
Here's the link to tech specs of Dell Optiplex 7010's. It came in very handy.
dell.com
Ayden Moore
bottom right has some nice milkers to be quite honest
Jaxson Wilson
The dad on the top right corner has cat ears too.
Cooper Miller
nothing wrong with bottom left ?
Cooper Jenkins
just gotta make sure not to get some kind of small form factor.