Muh ZOOM

>muh ZOOM
>muh 'it's not a good doom game'
then what would you have done differently, faggot?

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you can't look up or down

no arena fights
no armour/hp/ammo refill gimmicks
just good level design with good enemy and resource placements

but i still like eternal

i wouldn't have made a shitty reboot to a dead franchise

I wouldn't add retarded melee kill animations that lock you in place in what's supposed to be a fast paced game.
And I certainly wouldn't fucking balance the entire game around them so you can't simply ignore this shit.

Also, no upgrades.

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So you want extremely small spaces and essentially ammo checkpoints?
Did you even play on Nightmare? That would never work, you'd you wait for your cryo grenade to come off cooldown before progressing and cheese the whole game.

Coming from someone who loves DOOM Eternal, it really doesnt feel like DOOM at all.
2016 felt somewhat close to the originals but something about Eternal feels so substantially different than the rest.

It doesn't play like Classic Doom but, unlike Doom 2016, they went fully behind the idea of making an action/stylish shooter and it's fucking fantastic. Doom 2016 sucked in both regards.
Boomers who literally can't accept any other style of shooter can play the three hundred professionally made wads and quake clones that released in the last year.
Oh who am I kidding, ZOOM ZOOMER ZOOM DE LA ZOOMIES HAHAHAH upvotes to the left

wut? are you retarded?

Using platforming to break up the combat arenas instead of rewarding exploration killed the pacing. Its so stop and start and stop and start.

When every single fight has respawning fodder zombies that can't be melee'd to death because they are only there to be chainsaw'd for ammo, theres something wrong with the entire design philosophy.

I would have a dedicated hotkey to yell NIGGER for starters

Not FPS so you can see what's hitting you instead of just suddenly taking damage and not knowing how to react

Enemies constantly spawn behind you, is that how you play DOOM? Spinning around like a sissy to see if anything's behind you?

The platforming needs fine tuning and was a bit wonky at times. The underwater portions, while brief, were annoying. Other than that I wouldn't change anything. Great game, Yas Forums is retarded

no rpg shit
no platforming shit
no lockdown during the melee takedowns
no revealing his facenot partnering with Bethesda
everything else does what DOOM is supposed to

>melee kill animations
It's a mechanic that you can use to your advantage or be retarded and put yourself in a bad situation by using them poorly, use the faster Glory Kill rune you idiot, then the game is much faster and you can make better use of the Glory Kills and reduce the risk of them letting demons catch up.
With the chainsaw, create distance from the more dangerous monsters alive and chainsaw fodder, it's not hard.

This.

Butthurt zoom zooms

Bring back Snapmap

Snapmap sucked dick on launch due to the stupid two weapon limit that was eventually patched out.

Gameplay is fun enough that I would want new maps for it.

no jumping
doomguy doesn't flip around like a Halo faggot.

>When every single fight has respawning fodder zombies that can't be melee'd to death because they are only there to be chainsaw'd for ammo, theres something wrong with the entire design philosophy.
>reason: not given, I'm a huge faggot who doesn't want to use his brain to weight tradeoffs between my choices, I want to rip and tear xDDD

Leave your punch from 16. Why was it nerfed? It wasn't overpowered it was really just for finishing off Zombies quickly. Now with the ammo shortages it just makes me want to walk around zombies instead of wasting a round.

ITT: The reason nobody listens to you faggots

Doomguy had jump since 2004 :)

Literally kill yourself. Every first person game needs a double jump.

This. It's so fucking irritating.

No glory kills
No arenas
Make the flamethrower into it's own weapon, higher damage than the plasma rifle but short range.
No grenades
Crucible can be its own weapon
Make chainsaw the same as it was in 2016
More ammo

make it about shooting

>Crucible can be its own weapon
It is. Just bind it to 9 rather than v.

ìve never played a triple-A shooter that was more about shooting than the new dooms

Sounds like shit.

Post things you'd like changed in the game. Here's my list
>option to disable 1UPs, have mega healths instead
>either more interesting/challenging platforming or less platforming
>ability to replay Slayer gates from the menu
>no cutscenes at the end of fights that show you doors opening
>slightly increased ammo pool (I'm not talking 2016 levels, maybe 1/3 more than the current limit)
>carcass and whiplash ground attacks don't track your movement, are a straight line instead
>Doom hunter's sled is shielded too, otherwise it's too much of a weak point and you're not really incentivized to use the plasma rifle on him
>some rebalancing (there are fights that are supposed to be climactic big end of level battles that are too easy and there are regular mid-level fights that are much harder due to a bad mix of arena design and the chosen demon roster for that arena)
>normal punch can stagger fodder enemies for a glory kill

>Crucible can be its own weapon

What the fuck does that even mean? How is it not its own weapon?

i think he means a regular melee weapon, not 1hit kill with almost non-existent ammo

>no armour/hp/ammo refill gimmicks
I don't think you know what "gimmick" means

Requires rare ammo
only acquired around an hour before the game ends
basically just a gimmick for when barons appear

Then it'd just be a worse super shotgun

No talents and unlockables
No upgrading stats
No enemy pinatas
No "softly hit enemy to make it glow for your free health :)" garbage
No glory kills
No useless secrets like toys and music disks
No cooldown-based skills
No extra lives
No map, especially one that shows you where all the fucking secrets are
No levels full of invisible walls and platforms with no collision
No hub
No cutscenes

All basic mechanics like FUCKING MID-AIR MOVEMENT should be available from the start, finding new weapons and enemy types is already enough to make you feel like you're progressing
If you want to include a slow-motion ability, DON'T fucking bind it on the same key as your weapon mods
Secrets should be rewarding you directly for exploring with more resources and not fucking demon dildo sex toy music cheats

Anyone that sucks this game's dick is part of the cancer that killed this board and would normally be laughed the fuck out of here a decade or more ago, but nothing good lasts forever I guess

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Doom Eternal is a fucking excellent game. Engaging, tightly paced (aside from the very lame swimming sections), always makes you feel like you're learning and improving, banging soundtrack. It even performs excellently on PC for mid-range setups. I can see if a game isn't for you, but anyone who's a fan of Doom should be ecstatic that such an excellent game got released in their series. God knows I wish Mass Effect would come back with an entry as good as Doom Eternal

>only acquired around an hour before the game ends

There are 4 levels after the one where you get the crucible. You wanna tell me you completed the final 4 levels in an hour? I agree with some of your points aboutt he crucible, but I think the timing when they give it to you is about right. That's the point in the game when Arch Viles and Tyrants start appearing and the crucible is basically a tool to dispatch of them if you're in a pinch

no FUCKING platforming!!!!
And NO swimming sections
Cut out all that fantasy bullshit with Argent Dnur, Sentinels, Exultia, ficlomg King Norvik fuck that fucking shit, remake Hexen if you want that kind of stuff
MORE hell / hellified earth levels

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>Anyone that sucks this game's dick is part of the cancer that killed this board and would normally be laughed the fuck out of here a decade or more ago
Yas Forums a decade ago would've called you a worthless fucking casual, and they'd be right.

probably, i dont agree with him, i think the crucible was shoehorned in because it was just a marketing tool. game would be better off without it

Why do you hate fun user?

I like the occasional platforming bits, I hope they keep them in and expand upon them in the sequel

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The only thing that sucked in this game was swimming.

Not him but DE is very easy. Found it difficult on UV then I realized the gimmick is that you are supposed to rapidly swap weapons. Game became a cakewalk afterwards and I quickly beat it on nightmare.

>unironically thinking nu-doom is hardcore in any way, shape or form
Kill you'reself my man

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Man, I fucking hate Yas Forums. I hope COVID kills you.

>When every single fight has respawning fodder zombies that can't be melee'd to death because they are only there to be chainsaw'd for ammo, theres something wrong with the entire design philosophy.
this

>press E for infinite health
>press C for infinite ammo
>press R for infinite armor

whoa...... so hard..... casual status: filtered......

>When every single fight has respawning fodder zombies that can't be melee'd to death because they are only there to be chainsaw'd for ammo, theres something wrong with the entire design philosophy.
why? what's the problem?

He has tunnel-vision and must focus on one enemy at any time

>please explain to me why the levels being full of walking piñatas you have to stop and lock yourself in an animation to break every few seconds is a bad thing by the way I'm fucking retarded faggot oh god oh fuck please fuck my face

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I don't know, I'm finished with the game but I'm gonna read a few more threads and choose the opposite of the general consensus

Wrong.

>ME ONLY WALK AND SHOOT
>NO THINKY ONLY SHOOT AND WALK
>NO LOOKING UP OR DOWN ONLY SHOOT
>NO AIM ONLY WALK AND SHOOT

hahahaha i know right, I literally use a button once and never need to use it!

Remove whiplash

Let's see what difficulty you completed the game at, user

Needs whiplash porn

Any game developer who goes to Yas Forums for advice on how to make a good game is about as intelligent as a lobotomized retard.

Whiplash is fine IMO, the only annoying part is the ground attack that not only tracks you but you aren't even safe from it if you jump. That's some retarded shit right there, it's a fucking GROUND attack and it catches you mid-air. The carcass has a similar ground attacks that's just as annoying but they use it a lot less often.

Remove marauder
That's pretty much it, removing any other element would just require a complete rework of the game and as it stands all of the enemies are pretty much well balanced, not a single soul on this thread actually played the game and finished it on UV. I hate Yas Forums shitposters, why can't you fucks just be honest with yourselves and stop shitposting ironically?

Fired the Super Mario obsessed guy
Fired the OH LET'S FORCE THEM TO KILL THE DEAMONS THIS WAY AND NO OTHER WAY guy
Fired the THAT's enough shooting now we walk around for 2 min guy

You would have had a perfect game.

The cartoon sounds headshot and swallow sounds preferably should have been fired too.

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Blood Punch should have been tied to something other than glory kills and lategame suit upgrades, maybe just deal enough damage or kill enough enemies and you'll get one automatically
They set up the entire dynamic of the game to hammer in that glory kills = health and flamethrower = armor, so if you're great at managing your lifebars you never actually need to glory kill and can continue playing at your own pace

until you run into pic related

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They are, the even colab with Nintendo to release the game it will be called Super Mario Doom

Just take Doom 2016 and add new, longer campaign and more enemy types, that's literally all they had to do differently for it to be perfect.

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Tacticool Zoomers need WEAPON MODS.