Make what is unquestionably a FFVII SEQUEL

>Make what is unquestionably a FFVII SEQUEL
>market it as a "remake" because they're aware that FF sequels are hated by the fandom
>Sell way more copies than it should have

Is this the scummiest move from SE yet?

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Another scummy move is SE sending a huge posse of retarded shills to Yas Forums.

LR was better than 13, but other than that has an FF sequel been better than its original?

Kek. The shitstorm is gonna be epic.

>market it as a "remake" because they're aware that FF sequels are hated by the fandom

Meh maybe but I think they'd get a much warmer reception this time if they marketed it as a sequel since its Final Fantasy VII we're talking about here. People didn't hate the sequels to XIII because they were sequels. They hated them because XIII had a mixed reception and fans hated how much SE shoved Lightning in their faces.

>just because you are right doesnt mean you are right

Nope and even though LR is better, it sure as hell isn't much loved

I dunno man, DoC is a sequel but it's not exactly popular. AC is also very divisive.
Besides the fanbase has been begging for a bona fide remake for years.

I knew a FF7 faggot called "null" on another site. Wonder if it's the same dude?

The dude was spamming spoilers. I bet they were unmarked spoilers

Fuck off back to that thrasheap of a site.

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the only people defending it are doing so on the basis of it being a (((remake)))

so no, the reception would be far worse because those autists wouldn't have even picked it up.

How is it a sequel

>sephiroth had a change of heart and is trying to save the world from humanity’s extinction that was hinted at in the epilogue where Red is hundreds of years old

>Is this the scummiest move from SE yet?
I actually don't think there was any malicious intent behind it, I just think everyone at SE is too tone deaf to understand that this might be perceived as false advertising

can someone explain to me what time jannies means? i havent paid any attention to the remake cause current square is trash

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Play it or watch spoilers on YT to find out. It starts becoming increasingly obvious right after the bombing mission.

If he was banned for spoilers they would have just said that. "Banned for spoilers." Done. Not "oh every once in a while you drop a small spoiler" and then write a short essay alongside it justifying censorship because facts are hurting people's feelings.

It's definitely closer to a remake than to a sequel.

There is this meta plot in the game where these ghost guys show up to who are some force trying to prevent the story from deviating from that of the original game.

They fix up divergences in the timeline that Sephiroth causes whenever he tries to alter it.

And they do it for free.

Context on the webm?

Agreed. SE is wholly incompetent,
Nomura's ego is so great he actually thinks people want him to "surpass" the original, and Nojima is too much of a hack to realize how stupid every idea he's had for the last 20 years actually is.

Chink being a retard

>It's definitely closer to a remake than to a sequel
oh cool, so it pleases neither side then

>Game is Midgar only

>front cover doesn't say part 1

>back cover says "first part" in small text

this is so scummy by SE.

Anyone who cares about FF knows it's just the first part

I feel like not many have played LR? They got burnt out from 13 and 13-2

unironically how the fuck do they get away with it? i haven't paid attention to this since it was announced, i remember talk of it being episodic back then but it's been so long and there was no mention of it so I just assumed they changed their minds about that and were releasing it in one shot. How is it allowed to only sell 25% of a game without mention that it's not finished?

>NOOOOO WHY DID THEY REMAKE THE GAME IN THE REMAKE?
Do you have any ides what a remake actually is?

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because they’re claiming each “episode” has as much content and length as a full game despite the fact that this is like 25-30 hours WITH a shitload of padding

Why is part 1 not on the front?

It's used car salesman marketing.

Nope it didn't sell much but it was still a profit because it was low budget.
Pity, the gameplay is solid and the time limit mechanic that scared lots of people is actually extremely lenient.

The remake's story is much better than the original so far.

Anyone who's been causally following development knows it's part 1. fuck off

It's a video game though, so how's that part?

not to be contrarian but I don’t even like 7 that much. Maybe because it wasn’t my first one but 8 and 9 are much better

What about the normal people who have friends and leave their house and don't even casually follow the development of games, and just catch trailers and shit?

More like a sequel

Of course. It's a retelling of the original game that has no interaction with ot.
Everything that happens here is directly tied to the original FFVII's events, therefore being a sequel.

They don't play FF

That's not what he said my dude. He basically said he was being toxic

>I think they'd get a much warmer reception this time if they marketed it as a sequel
They wouldn't because there is a core issue that exists since PS1 evolved into the PS2
You have the FF7 fanbase that are so abnoxiously full of faggotry that they want FF7 to made 1:1 but with just graphical changes.
That there is the problem.
Is Crisis Core bad? Yes and No
Is DoC bad? Yes and No
Is Advent Children bad? Yes and no
is FF7R bad? Yes and no
What they all have in common is that they aren't FF7 just with the graphical improvements.
You will never win that war.
Once you understand that. You understand why these people are as mad as they are.
I mean I'm more pissed off at the fact that Chrono Trigger Ressurection gets a cease and desist and that game doesn't even 1/1millionth of the attention FF7 does.

>Is DoC bad? Yes and No
Yes and yes*

Do you? I haven't seen too many remakes with this shit before.

In their defense, some of you have been really obvious on other sites. Can’t you at least pretend to be normal human beings and not sperg out at the mindless consumers? That just makes them worse, it validates their shitty opinions when you act like aggressive retards

theres a chinese guy cooking wok heated oil which is extremely high heat most of the time

and hes SIPPING IT, SIPPING BUBBLING HOT OIL

CC DOC and AC are all conisdered severely underwhelming and should just be ignored entirely

so how about a YES THEYRE BAD and not incorporate them

PS4
Final Fantasy 7: ReMake
>The Story of Midgar

iOS/Android
Final Fantasy 7-2.5: Kalm Intervention
>Cloud Story from the past

PS5
Final Fantasy 7-2: Nibelheim Journey
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Final Fantasy ALL in ONE pack
>story so far

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>When Timelines colude

PC Exclusive
FInal Fantasy 7 356/7 Gold
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PS5 Exclusive
FInal Fantasy 7-4: Go Home
>Back to Midgar 2.0

OS/Android
Final Fantasy Gold soucer
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On all Platforms
Final Fantasy 7-BB2 Edtion 367 second key
>The Story so far + new cut scenes and remasterd edition of all games

Big bundle with PS6
FInal Fantasy 7-4.5: Timeline 3
>Cloud vs Cloud

PS6/Xboxfourty/PC
Final Fantasy 7-5: Remasterd
>Cloudia final form vs ZombieTifa

OS5/Android+
Final Fantasy 7 - 5.5: The Chaida onbre Card game
>+story comics from all FInal Fantasy Lukarat univers

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Final Fantasy 7 Master ReMake Dia Univers
>All Games and Stories told so far

PS6.5(pre beta)
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>the Story begins again

PS6.5(late beta)//Xbox-sandbox(early alpha)
Final Fantasy 7 vs 7
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Final Fantasy 7 vs 7.1
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Final Fantasy 7 - 7.2: Back to the future
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on all platforms
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Final Fantasy 7 - 8: worlds
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Final Fantasy 7 - 8.1/3: The Angle within
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Final Fantasy 7 - the story so far
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Final Fantasy 7 - 8.2: Remake 2 first key
>Cloud travels back in time to warn Cloudia

That can't just be oil, looked like some kind of broth. More like he adds a ton of salt or MSG and only takes another spoonful of the broth at the end.

All they had to do was remake the game with the exact same story but Nomura couldn't help himself. He had to fill it up with contrived nonsensical bullshit.

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Kek.
But no doubt this is gonna spawn some low-budget, cash-grabbing mobile "game" that will sell like hot cakes just because it has FFVII written on it.

The game was pretty good with only minor shitty stuff that was outweighed by God tier everything else... untilt he end when it went full retard KH. Why does Nomura ruin everything?

WHAT DID THEY MEAN BY THIS

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near the end of the game hojo starts to explain to cloud that his memories of being a soldier are fake, then a swarm of harry potter ghosts show up and carry him away before he can finish dropping spoilers

there's probably a ton of people who don't follow gaming news closely, but own a PS4 and played this game when they were a kid. They know exactly what they're doing.

>I actually don't think there was any malicious intent behind it
I disagree. One person misrepresenting the story could be considered a mistake. Almost every single developer making statements about the game's story were reiterating the sentiment that the remake is remaining faithful to the original; especially regarding the story. They repeated this over and over for years. This is not a coincidence. Somebody somewhere tasked with developing this game would have mentioned the dramatic changes to the story if it was ever their intention to speak honestly about the game. Especially when asked directly. The fact that this never happened is the smoking gun that Square-Enix deliberately and knowingly did not reveal to fans that the remake is a spin-off. They knew full well that yet another spin-off would have evaporated hype around the game. They knew full well that fans wanted the original story which is why they reiterated so many times that it would be the same. They did that to reassure fans and retain pre-orders and initial sales.

Make no mistake. Square-Enix was being deceptive to make money.

>FF and KH during the "Golden Age"
>FFVII - Fight for the planet, and succeed by the skin of Tifa's GGG Boob flesh thanks to Aeris and Cloud's brain damage not killing him, Sephiroth/Jenova be damned
>KH - Fight to find your friends and save the worlds, venture into the heart of the abyss and kill a mad scientist man who claims darkness is fate but you tell him to fuck off
>FF and KH Now
>FFXIII - Fight against Fate Jannies, do exactly what they want anyway and effectively end the world (at least as it was)
>KH3, X, and DDD - Fight against Time hopping Organization Jannies, defy fate but end up doing exactly as you were supposed to according to MoM who just dabs and sends you to another reality. Also that scientist you fought wasn't really who you thought lol it's a guy pretending to be a guy pretending to have brain damage who body snatched a dude and wants to do the same with other dudes to make MoM pay attention to him probably
>FFVIIR - Fight against Time Jannies, but in reality you will probably just do what they want anyway and still fight Sephiroth
It's almost like on a surface level every Nomura and Toriyama plot from the last 10 years is the same mostly gay shit that ruins the series.
It isn't interesting, usually only ends up being minorly addressed at the end and is mega padded out with pointless drivel that ruins something that could have been much better.

You deserve it for being on reddit, but you tried to do the right thing. Sadly, the mindless consumers will never, ever under any circumstances, even with a gun pointed to their heads, do the right thing. It's just not in their DNA.

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Basically, the time jannies are a symbolism of oldfags who prefers the original and are seen as rage fanboys who don't know what they want.

maybe it was a faithful remake originally

Have any e-celebs reacted to the time jannies yet? Haven't seen the knowledge of them circulate besides here.

Developers were saying this two weeks ago.
gamespot.com/articles/final-fantasy-7-remake-is-a-very-faithful-recreati/1100-6475164/
The game's story was finalized by then.

ok, that's pretty scummy

Overall I have to agree. They've been teasing and holding back on a remake since that ps3 tech demo, and despite how XIII and XV (have no idea about KHIII) sold, Square is still at a low point financially/creatively, and this was their last ace up their sleeve.

Give it up, you are not gonna see a critical response to these story alterations from these people. You are gonna watch them try their darnest to downplay the effect of it, ignore it while focusing on the gameplay and music or say stuff like "well, i think it's interesting and if you want the original, you can go back and play FF7"

Vinny (Vinesauce) is only 2 hours in and already he's disliked the Sephiroth appearances and time janny sneak peeks.