Get it into your skull Yas Forums.
Games aren't art. They are toys, for children.
Get it into your skull Yas Forums
Nolan Turner
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Austin Watson
ok. why is this so important to you though?
Henry Hughes
Art = expression
Therefore even this post is art
Eli Kelly
>having fun is for children
When will this meme die?
Robert Bennett
"""art"""
Xavier Green
>implying you could even name those paintings on the left
Aaron Jackson
art.
Jaxon Williams
not art
Bentley Evans
Thank God. Much as I may like art, I don't want vidya burdened with the pretentiousness of current art culture.
Justin Campbell
>CRAPPY OLD PAINTING ART
>PRETTY VIDEO GAME NOT ART
Jace Lewis
wake up dps bring out more emotion than any of the art on the left.
Carter Hughes
Do you take part in current art culture?
What's it like?
Ethan Clark
>OLD THING ART
>NEW THING NOT ART
Ian Stewart
Brainlet.
Colton Foster
>Games aren't art.
and that's a good thing. "art" is a codeword for "pretentious bullshit."
Henry Bennett
You're a toy for children.
Daniel Moore
>not understanding the concept of commercial art
Liam Gonzalez
wow...
so this is the power of art...
truly, the scales have fallen from my eyes
Xavier Baker
>Art = concept conveyed through image, sound or other sensual form via performed process
>Product = An article or substance that is manufactured or refined for sale
Now which one does "video games" sound like
Leo Nelson
Get it into your skull OP.
Art is a term without strict definitional boundaries. There is no objective standard for what is and isn't art.
Also you're a faggot.
Ryan Russell
I dont like art anyway it sounds like "fart"
Owen Sanders
Actually art is everything. Even sight on the lake or mountain.
Camden Ross
they arent exclusive. you can manufacture art for sale.
Aiden Flores
>artlet mad they can't into shovel knight, street fighter, ect.
Julian Myers
is this dr robotnik?
Oliver Sullivan
>Norman Rockwell is not art
Lucas Peterson
then we wouldn't need the word "art". what a foolish thing to say.
Samuel Edwards
both
Caleb Scott
Andrew Baker
>it's a Yas Forums gets filtered episode
They rerun this one every week
Asher Price
Art is a soul.
Luis Edwards
Those paints look beautiful though.
Xavier Johnson
This guy has a point.
Jordan Bennett
which one is the game I don't recognize
Jayden Gray
IT'S GUTSMAN
Xavier Fisher
So why are you here, then? Fucking dumb ass
Aaron Perry
Even a lot of the old master stuff was largely commercial art. These niggas were earning a living you know.
David Thomas
>inb4 uneducated virgins miss the point that this piece highlights in the fact that people were willing to exhibit this alongside actual art pieces, highlighting the decline of contemporary art standards
Michael Evans
If there were any argument against video games being art then gamers are that argument. Because no other medium is decried and disrespected by its own audience.
Ayden Anderson
>Art = concept conveyed through image, sound or other sensual form via performed process
Strange definition, but better than most.
Caleb Barnes
marcel duchamp, dadaism, response to nazism, titled "fountain" I think all thats right isn't it?
Xavier Young
>scenery
Owen White
Jack Davis
>Soul
>Soulless
fag
Robert Cox
putting comic books above board games is a fucking crime, you're like hitler or something
Tyler Adams
>it's a Yas Forums gets filtered episode
Dylan Green
The ironic thing is the Nazis put on their own shows separating bad art from high art with their "entartete kunst" exhibitions (degenerate art) where the point was to go and laugh at how shit the concept was. With their defeat, we lump in Duchamp's deliberately shit works with things like Michelangelo's David.
Thomas Mitchell
Camden Rogers
People who reject video games as art fall into two groups. Gatekeeping retards who hate anything new and video gamers who want video games to be games. The gatekeepers are cocks who reject anything they don't understand or want to be bothered with learning anything new.
Video gamers however don't want video games to be art because most "art" games are glorified movies or visual novels. Most pro video games as art people only like the video games where you remove the most important aspect of a video game, the interactive aspect of it. The video games as art community want video games want the same interaction a book has of flipping the page. They don't want to be challenged, they just want to be told a story and look at pretty colors. They want a virtual museum to explore around with a personal docent. Videos games to be taken seriously as an art form need to take proper advantage of the audience engagement aspect it provides. No other art form has the audience also be the lead star in the performance. Theater might engage with the audience but not at the same level as video games. The video gamer rejects video games as an art because they don't want every game to be "gone home." they want their action, their strategy, their thrills more than they desire a thought provoking elements. They will however, seek that out if it is available while also getting their fun.
Video games should not and cannot be like a movie, book, painting, or whatever. There are aspects to be borrowed from those mediums but it needs to be it's own thing.
Nobody will read this but whatever, I needed to get it off my chest.
Nolan Price
>arguing against the dictionary
Are you ESL?
Camden Fisher
Why is it always the people who create nothing that wish to be the arbiters of it.
Elijah Russell
I read it and I agree.
Brayden Evans
I get what you're saying. You'd count me as the second category I guess, but I'm an artist that plays video games. I don't consider myself a "gamer". People miss the nuance that video games CONTAIN art (i.e. in the graphics, sound and concept) but they are ultimately an amalgam of those things into a specific product - sometimes that product is like a presentation or a sport for example. But that alone makes video games their own thing; they can be enjoyed on their own terms without the audience needing to think about a context outside of the piece, unlike with, for example, seeing an art piece in a gallery.
It's pretty arbitrary anyway as to the term "art" but when people say " is a work of art" what they really mean is "it's COMPARABLE to a work of art (in terms of the thought that went into it as well as the concepts it conveys). Even as an artist myself, it's important not to OVER-value the term "art".
Owen Cook
games are nothing without people to play them
Angel Walker
Paintings are nothing without people to look at them
Camden Gomez
>Art is nothing with no one to look at it
Aaron Lopez
>games aren't art
They certainly can be, and have been. Cope and seethe.
Ian Howard
yes. obviously. do you have a point?
Jason Edwards
That yours is a non argument. Nothing is nothing if no one is around to appreciate it. What's your point?
Jack Thomas
I was responding to to show that even without creating something your opinion on the medium or an individual piece is still valid.
Liam Davis
>commercial
This. Artistic vision or a refined sense of beauty is important for good art, but it doesn't have to be the only motivation for it.
Jackson Scott
why does he start fapping when he sees OP?
Grayson Hill
what makes a painting art but not video games? is it the intent behind it? truth is that everything we do is a product of our consciousness expressing itself by shaping the physical world around it. also one of those images is from minecraft, it's funny because people constantly express themselves by creating great edifices without getting paid for it.