Good modern CRPGs

What new crpg is good?

Divinity Original Sin 2

Or

Pathfinder Kingmaker?

Pillars of Eternity seems shit.

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Underrail

Pillars of Eternity

First Pillars is good, but not great. Deadfire's a dumpster fire.
Kingmaker's very good. Best thing about it is unprecedented scale, though, not exactly quality.
Original Sin is boring to me. Game's unrelenting attempts at being funny don't help.

Kingmaker is so long. I am 80 hours into this game and I feel like I am not close to the end.

You probably are. There isn't that much effort put into later chapters.

I was told that once I track down that barbarian warlord I can become a full king. About how far through the game am I?

Is there a crpg that is good from start to finish?

I want to say Age of Decadence, but Gomorrah was clearly rushed.

Just play them all, fren, see which ones you like.

Is there anyone here that actually thinks D:OS 2 is good?
Be honest.

I do because the combat is alright.

Every RTwP game is shit enjoyed by people too scared to play an action game and too dumb to play a strategy game.

I'm ambivalent, I didn't even try it. The sad thing is I backed it on KS and never even redeemed my code.

>combat is alright
The combat is a polished turd enjoyed by brainlets who like to stomp around in puddles.
The mechanics are simple, the skills are simple, the character building is even more simple, and the only people who like that shit are simple.
But what gets me really butthurt is D:OS being hailed as the savior of fucking CRPGs or some shit.
Lets get one thing straight, if it's plausible that it can be released for consoles, let alone if it actually is, IT'S NOT A FUCKING CRPG
God I hate D:OS.
Fuck those Belgian barrel fetishists

>Lets get one thing straight, if it's plausible that it can be released for consoles, let alone if it actually is, IT'S NOT A FUCKING CRPG
Imagine being such an autistic purist.

I do. I had a tremendous amount of fun in coop. Is the dual armor system shit? Yeah, kind of, I don't know what they had in mind. "No, you can't taunt this guy because he has armor". Nigga, what?
But you quickly find plenty of workaround. I still think there's a lot of wasted potential and that the game could have been better, but I still had a lot of fun and enjoyed it. It also need to tone down the surface effect, tho every square inch of ground systematically ends up on fire/poisonous/frozen by turn 2, it's a bit annoying.

Please give a better turn-based grid RPG, you seem to know your stuff and I'm bored as hell.

Modded kingmaker.

Underrail and Battle Brothers, although BB is hex based.
Fucking Larianfags can't even choose a good TB RPG to enjoy.
Brainlet.
>I do. I had a tremendous amount of fun in coop
I hope you realize you're part of the reason why RPGs are shit nowadays.

>Modded
Nah I want an actual game not a band-aid

Anywho, fuck D:OS.
But can we talk about how shit PoE and Trashfire were?
Can someone please tell pic related that CRPGs aren't competitive multiplayer games that require near perfect balance between classes?
Although I guess it makes sense that a boring cunt like Sawyer would make one of the most boring and bland games.
He's such a smug cunt too, just look at this face.
I mean, thanks for Joshua Graham bud, but there's only so much credit you get for that.
Looking back, Fallout: New Vegas was a fluke.

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Bastard Bonds.

is surprisingly good, but gets repetitive too fast. Is the dev working on anything new?

Then play tabletop, not CRPGs.

Not sure, last update on their website was like 3 years ago.

RPGs are shit now because the majority of western devs are pozzed faggots.

DoS2 and Bugfinder are as shitty as PoE actually, they simply have bigger mainstream appeal.

I'd say Dragonfall/Disco Communism and Expeditions Vikings are genuinely good.

Around 2/3. Also being king changes nothing

99% of the bugs are fixed though...

Tyranny

What mods?

Going by the question I guess he meant the turn based mod?

Both are good.
literaly play both you dumb nigger

its great.
you have to be either a complete contrarian or a hardcore Beamdog level infinity engine lover to dislike that game.
Half of the criticism the game gets is literaly from people who you can tell never actually palyed it, or that got filtered in the tutorial.
Such as the "you are forced to do either full physical or full magic" meme, which i can attest to not beeing true since i finished tacticians mode with a mixed party.
also they fixed a lot of this stuff, taunt for example goes through armor now.

Only one is good.
Literally play only Pathfinder Kingmaker if you aren't a mouthbreather.

>Lets get one thing straight, if it's plausible that it can be released for consoles, let alone if it actually is, IT'S NOT A FUCKING CRPG
I see. Baldur's Gate is not a computer RPG. My eyes are now open.

>Such as the "you are forced to do either full physical or full magic" meme, which i can attest to not beeing true since i finished tacticians mode with a mixed party.
You aren't forced, but it's the optimal route. Min-max more.
>Half of the criticism the game gets is literaly from people who you can tell never actually palyed it, or that got filtered in the tutorial.
I played through both, and like I said, D:OS games are simple.
You can hop on to the wiki, read up on the talents, skills and "classes" as well as the environment gimmicks and understand everything in less than an hour.
There's no joy with character progression, no need to theorycraft.
If D:OS is a CRPG, it's the Fallout 4 of CRPGs.
And I'm not a RTwPfag, I love Underrail as much as PF:KM, both of which are vastly superior to D:OS.

Platform(s) Microsoft Windows, Mac OS
Release December 21, 1998[1][2][3][a]
NA: July 31, 2000 (Mac OS)
inb4
>but muh beamdog
nice argument retard

The Age of Decadence

I only seem to get rid of physical armour in DOS2 and I spam knock down moves afterwards. My Lohse is actually kinda useless so I made her a necromancer/healer so she can spam heal and infect and once in a while summon a blob or spider.

I don't have an argument, don't need one. You're the one making an outrageous claim. You need to argue, or accept that you are the only one with such a retarded definition. What about all the other CRPGs that also have console ports, then, m8? You going to tell me that Wizardry, Might & Magic, Bards Tale, Pool of Radiance, Ultima are not CRPGs or do their console ports not count by your poofter definition either? Get fucking real, your qualifications for being a computer RPG are not sane. You're a fool and nobody will defend your position.

out of those two, Kingmaker. But I feel like the best contemporary CRPGs are traditional roguelikes.

besides the armor system, the writing is what irks me.

Blobbers aren't CRPGs though.
They're blobbers.

Oh, you're one of those. Even if 'blobbers' were not COMPUTER RPGS, which is what the bloody term stands for, you are not addressing Ultima which is most certainly not a 'blobber'.

DOS2 is great, Yas Forums is filled with redditors / ResetEra users who love Obsidian so they shit on DOS2.

Or the non-'blobber' Pool of Radiance series for that matter, which is of prime relevance being a AD&D adaptation, moreso than Infinity Engine games. Don't bloody tell me that's not a CRPG by your idiotic definition because you can't use a mouse.

If it's ported to consoles, it's either
a) shekel chasing, and it's a much worse experience playing something on consoles that was meant to be played on a fucking PC
b) was never complex enough to be considered a CRPG, but brainlets still do, cause they're brainlets
Ultima is simple as fuck.

I hate D:OS, but I hate PoE/Trashfire more...
what now?

OS2 is a good game, though it suffers a bit depending on the character you play (Red Prince and Fane are the best storylines, easily). Kingmaker is pretty fantastic, I'm having a lot of fun with that, but it definitely leans towards the old spreadsheet character / kingdom optimization crowd.

Kingmaker and its not even close.

>Blobbers aren't CRPGs though.
are you retarded?

>Ultima is simple as fuck.
Are you covering the entire series with that statement? Is your claim that Baldurs Gate is actually a more complex game? That'd be a laugh, but nevermind that, it has been ported to a console, hasn't it? So then, by your definition, it is not complex enough to be considered a CRPG. Nice one.

Are you?

whats the pasta sauce?

>be a fucking baron and part-time murderhobo
>sell every single silver fork you find to save you land from financial collapse
>new project: +1ac in combat when within your barony
Kingdom management is jank but it could be salvaged if it was actually integrated with combat/character building. You only get teleporters and artisan goods from managing your kingdom.
Crusade management is probably gonna be the same "fix the problem or get a debuff that will eventually cause a game over" except with even more extraneous homm bullshit.

Still not going on auto-mode though.

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It's pretty good, I just really don't like Larian's style of writing, it ruins the game a little for me. Gameplay is pretty fun and you can fuck around with things and do random shit quite a lot, which I always really love in RPGs.

No. It's a dead genre.

There's like four new ones coming out in the next couple years, though - BG3, Wrath of the Righteous, Realms Beyond, and Solasta. And apparently Wizards of the Coast is pushing to have a new CRPG release once a year following BG3.

Yas Forums CRPG "fans" are the worst kind of scum

Worse than MMOfags?

What?

>Wizards of the Coast is pushing to have a new CRPG release once a year following BG3
>once a year
Yearly releases don't really suit this genre. Then again WoTC are fucking retarded.

>Baldur's Gate 3 is coming in 2020 in Early Access
Fucking hell, it won't be playable until the end of next year

D:OS 2
the rest look like shit and in a roleplaying game, you need to look good to properly roleplay
it's unforgiveable how a game made post 2015 can have sims tier character models. they should at the very least be on par with XCOM2