TOTAL WAR OFFICIAL POWER RANKING Including points for innovation relative to release period (as in shogun 1 gets extra points for being the trailblazer, despite not holding up as strongly in the modern era).
>1. Empire >2. Rome 1 >3. Medieval 2
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>4. FotS >5. Shogun 2
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>6/7 (tie) Shogun 1, medieval 1
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>8 Rome 2 (currently patched, not release) >9 Attilla >10 Napoleon >11 Warham shit >12 Rome 2 first year
If we are talking modless then Rome 1 If with mods Med 2 is 1st dude Also good way to spot the redditor is legit enjoyment of warhammer bullshit. Look out for them and do not give em (you)'s
both of them are boring as fuck and feel like the most 2010 games ever
Jordan Jones
even if that's your opinion that's fine but seriously >empire over napoleon
Lucas Murphy
My Fatwa against Creative Assembly for Rome 2 at launch will never, ever end. Literally built my first PC to play that at launch, never been so disappointed.
Dominic Howard
It is. Shorter grand campaign and no americas nor Asia.
Austin Cook
Best to worse the one I've played: >Medieval 1 >Shogun 1 >Rome 1 >Medieval 2 >Napoleon >Shogun 2 >Warhammer 1 >Empire >Rome 2 They REALLY need to bring back the risk map if they ever want the campaign gameplay to be good again.
Angel Smith
>Medieval 1 and Shogun 1 best >Shogun 2 below Napoleon
Ian Ramirez
>1. Empire Die.
Benjamin Myers
Yes I'm from reddit and I enjoy Warhammeer. How'd you know?
Yes. In M1 and S1 terrain, fatigue and weather modifiers are enormous relative to later games, making maps and position key and battles far more varied than just the repetitive hammer and anvils of later games. People who like the Napolenic era rate Napoleon higher than those that dislike it and that's fine.
Medieval is barebones as fuck. what the fuck, user.
Oliver Rivera
>much better battles >maps are much more interesting and varied >graphics absolutely rape Empire's >Europe is actually detailed >more historical flavour, hardly any generic troops spread across samey factions >MY ENEMIES ARE MANY. MY EQUALS ARE NONE.
On the campaign map, the limited risk-style movement of armies makes the AI much tougher. It can be a real challenge and it also takes a very long time to get the Fortress level most advanced buildings and units, feels like a real achievement when you get there
On the battlefield, it feels much more balanced than later games. For evenly matched forces, units are quite slow to die - unless you use tactics and flank or surprise the enemy. Your general's attributes and the positioning of your forces, and the environment, all matter a lot. If you're impatient and rush in, even if you have better/more troops and a better general, the AI can and will punish you
I never felt the same kind of challenge from the later games
Luis Sullivan
It literally has more features than Medieval 2.
Matthew Bell
Oh look its the histcuck again. How is Total War Sóy comming along?
That's partially CA's fault for not creating an AI smart enough to manage settlement management, politics, etc. Medieval 1 just limits the options to counter your enemies but still, I respect your view. I recommend attila if you haven't tried that one.
Angel Cooper
Das rite brotah. The historycucks fear the fantachads.
>did anyone even buy those? 1 million copies sold in the first week >Like what were they thinking? money
Isaac Torres
I wouldnt even care if they made WH games if it werent for the fact that they basically abandoned historical games which is the whole appeal of their company. Then when they do make histrorical games they come out with shit like three kingdoms.
Its one of those scenarios where I am not even sure if I want to bother with any new games from them anymore. The last game I got from the was Attila which is okay but has the shittiest city planning in the series.
I just want MTW3 with the best of MTW2, empire, and attila mixed into and the worst left out
Landon Reyes
Warhammer didn't derail anything. It even saved this unimaginative franchise from certain death. If you still believe that the franchise will die then I will cherish that thought of yours. Warhammer fans wont even be a bother after the contract is finished and the trilogy will be complete.
Not really, Warhammerfags are the ponyfags of Fantasygames.
Michael Adams
The problem with Warhammer is that people stopped buying Historical because the games were getting worse and worse with shitty game design everywhere, but the Warhammer-fags empty their wallets for thousands of dollars of DLC and don't give a shit about how bad the games have become beause they never played the good ones, thus giving CA no incentive to fix their shit and plenty to pursue terrible DLC practices.
Jeremiah Rogers
The only sad thing is this retarded fight between history x fantasy x china, while CA is making millions with half assed games for dumb people.
Jordan Rodriguez
Risk map was the best, actually meant a good amount of real meaningful battles. The current campaign map system just makes it so outside of the first 20 turns you never really fight big fun field battles.
Lincoln Wood
But the communist party hates chinese history though
Ryan Martin
Warhammer fags are beginning to route my lord
Sebastian Rivera
On what retarded basis? Only place ratfags resurface is here.
*they wander like 50 metres away before unbreaking and running back to fight some more*
Jason Fisher
Get a load of this historycuck.
Ethan Parker
Well historyfags started it all with the first announcement of Warhammer. Warhammerfags simply want the setting translated fully into the game. Chinks are the true enemy.
It's just constant sieges, which somehow seem to get more retarded every game, and thanks to armies being bound to generals there's no such thing a assymetrical battles anymore.
Isaac Rogers
Bad history games is all on you historyfags. You kept buying the same products with no change in them. Warhammerfags simply want a conversed setting in game format I frankly don't care what will happen to the history games as long as CA makes enough content for Warhammer until the license runs out. Im sure there are lots of people who enjoy both and lots that came originally for Warhammer and picked the other games. But dont put your issues on the Warhammer fanbase that simply wants to play in its setting.
Except the TW Warhammer games are better than anything CA has made since Shogun II. Historyfags like to shit on fantasy TW simply because it doesn't pander to their history fetishism.
Justin Ramirez
>Haven't tried Liu Bei's whacky adventures yet. But it's probably good. It's a better Shogun 2 and what Shogun 3 should be like.