You're in charge of Team Fortress 3 - what changes do you make, from TF2? What lessons are there to learn from TF2...

You're in charge of Team Fortress 3 - what changes do you make, from TF2? What lessons are there to learn from TF2, and similar games like Overwatch?

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Make it a mix of the worse parts of TF2, TF2 (Titanfall2), Overwatch, Valorant, and Fortnite.

I would make it as functionally similar to tf2 as possible, with minor visual improvements

>the worse parts of TF2
Why? To be a faggot?

>You're in charge of Team Fortress 3 - what changes do you make

I cancel the project and just revive TF2 instead

Yes.

>Nerf Medic's ubercharge so the game isn't reliant on him (come up with a new mechanic or just make him a healer)
>Nerf soldier's splash damage
>Remove sniper

Based Jeff.

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you can leave now and never comeback

Take the game back to pre-mannconomy, and only the first round of update weapons are available for each class.

The only sequel I can think of that's improved with subtraction.

how?

Have female counterparts for each class for a total of 18 playable characters.

Bring back dustbowl so I can replay it endlessly.

By fucking updating it

Why? All of these are genuine design flaws in TF2, because medic isn't fun, he's a class you're forced to play or else you lose, and soldier is too forgiving with his splash damage, and sniper just doesn't belong in TF2, a game about high risk high reward mid range combat

>what changes do you make, from TF2?
Restore weapons like the soda popper and sandman to their original form.
>What lessons are there to learn from TF2, and similar games like Overwatch?
To add more model variations for existing weapons and have them drop like other weapons.

To add more new types of weapons, new interesting ideas no matter how bad or over powered they are, everything can be fixed with time.

Never change the fundamentals of a weapon, examples being things like the soda popper and sandman.

Most of this thread is just people crying about things they don't like or retarded changes just for the memes.

BLU team gets their own models

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>I enjoy having mini-crits by walking
>I enjoy stun mechanics in a game with a huge emphasis on movement
glad you're not in charge of balancing this game

I'd be fine with removing sniper and spy. The instakill classes are really fucking dumb. getting backstabbed/sniped in the middle of an extended, fun, mid-range fight is so lame.

learn counterplay

>Source 2
>No new classes, bring back original characters
>Add a story mode that's basically a playable version of the tf comics, singleplayer or co-op
>Flesh out mann vs machine, add the ability to play as the robot team
>Start over from scratch with the hats, make sure they all fit the artstyle

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bad visual design, they need to be recognizable immediately

>>I enjoy having mini-crits by walking
>>I enjoy stun mechanics in a game with a huge emphasis on movement
Nerf them, make them less powerful.
Do NOT destroy them, they are ruined in TF2 now, they make no sense and are completely useless.

the designs in the pic are from the same concept art the current designs came from

I'm talking about blu team having different models

>add the ability to play as the robot team
defeats the purpose

different models that stem from the same base concepts

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>Add a story mode
Team Fortress RPG would kill. I had hoped we were getting that, when I heard Valve was working on an RPG, but I think that morphed into that "Artifact" trash.

>Flesh out mann vs machine, add the ability to play as the robot team
It'd be kind of cool if you had something like NS2's FPS/RTS mix. the robot team could be played like an rts by one guy.

Delete them, the Uber update was the worst update in TF2, it added a fuckton of weapons with simple stat changes (+ damage - ammo reserve and other shit like that) instead of making a balanced few, it literally ruined the game so bad that they're still trying to figure out the right balance a decade later

this x1000

>they're still trying to figure out the right balance a decade later
nobody at valve has worked on it in years

>jungle inferno was 3 years ago
what the fuck

the activation of CERN has done something to the flow of time. everyone here can feel it, but nobody can describe it

>Keep gameplay functionally the same pre mym
>Sharper graphics
>Same 9 classes
>Make more weapons that change how you play a class i.e. more movement/defense options or stuff like mad milk that lets you play semi-support for more versatility
>Official Saxton Hale Mode with HHH and CBS
>More MVM Maps
>Remove gun skins
>Rework how the game handles cosmetics as to not bloat it to insane levels and have it run like shit on old systems like modern TF2
>EZPZ map making tools

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>Delete them
Fuck off, retard.
More variety is good, less variety is bad.
>it literally ruined the game so bad that they're still trying to figure out the right balance a decade later
and yet, aside from some weapons they've ruined, the game is perfectly balanced outside of spy.

all good shit

Imagine controlling what robots to send out, like sending a a giant soldier while 2 tanks are moving through the map, having special moves like decreasing the players ammo/destroying buildings

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Gay thing to post

remove matchmaking

I'd give Engineer a redesign. Turtling just drags the game down way too much and playing Engineer aggressively is way more fun anyway.

The key thing is to come up with something better than mini-sentries, those were cancer.

>More variety is good, less variety is bad.
not always, sometimes you get 10,000 shitty variants

>t. [VALVE] Niggerkiller

Mann vs Machine VR

>aside from some weapons they've ruined, the game is perfectly balanced outside of spy.
imagine believing this
post hours or fuck off

How would you nerf pyro?

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Rework the Phlog into a completely different weapon. Then leave a note telling anyone who is still having trouble with one of the weakest classes in the game to git gud.

Bit longer of an airblast cooldown, decrease afterburn time.

Add a dog class
Add aliens

>>Start over from scratch with the hats, make sure they all fit the artstyle
this would cause a huge fucking uproar from trade trannies so I doubt it'd happen sadly

remove all the furries and coomers that play him from existence.

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i would get the comic released by any means, removing MM. and wipe my hands of it forever.

Remove all forms of RNG in the gunplay.

>this would cause a huge fucking uproar from trade trannies
even better

Remove characters that don’t require skill, so pyro soldier and heavy

Afterburn goes away after you kill the pyro that set you on fire

I make it TF2 without hats.

>Remove characters that don’t require skill
The game is now Fortress 2

TF3
>MVM robots as characters so you can keep the same personalities set in the 80s
>Source 2
>longer reload on sniper
>time between kills on Spy
>mini crit gun for medic but cross bow does more damage
>engine gets missile launcher only sentry and more powerful shotgun with less rounds or smg
> pyros flame shooter overheats requiring cool down if M1 tarding
>Scout is fine idc about sandman either way
>demo fine
>Soldier fine
>keep weapon ideas but “modernize” them
>MvM maps that require more coordination like WoW raid bosses
Idk what else

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Oh pyro can cool off the flame thrower using air blast but it costs ammo still