How bad will the backlash for FF7R's new ending be?

It'll only be impossible to talk about on Yas Forums, where everybody's trying to be a bigger retard than everybody else, and on GameFAQs which has some of the most dedicated FF7 fanboys I've ever seen. Everyone involved will take personal offense to the plot changes because they assumed it would be a complete FF7 remake as marketed and deliberately not understand that they got baited. They will not understand, on purpose, that Remake's plot hinges on the original FF7 being the canon story. They will need Preparation H. All of them, forever.

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Advent Children was well received so...

No one thinks there'll be significant bachlash
We just think it's fucking hilarious how crudely executed it is

>trusting square
you were warned

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Mass Effect was a much bigger deal than FFVII at the time.

Keep telling yourself that, schizo. And take your meds.

did people unironically expect a one-to-one remaster with improved graphics?
didnt the years of development and still not even releasing the full game tell you guys something?

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Cloud loves Aeris

the game will be impossible to talk about, pretty much it

Have you looked at the reception outside of Yas Forums? There are so many people praising it, claiming it made them cry and shit because they actually think those embarrassing anime cutscenes are good. Or the soundtrack made them tear up and they somehow attribute that to the game being good despite the fact that it's just a fucking remastered version of the great work Nobuo did decades ago.

This will not blow up as much as ME3 did, because weebs are on a whole other level of shit taste and complete lack of standards than normies are. They don't need the plot to make sense or have any amount of cohesion, as long as there are characters screaming and doing wild flips and other shit while pretty music is playing so they can get emotional they will fucking cherish this shit.

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People are hurt. Fucking stop. My boyfriend is upstairs crying right now because of this and I just can't right now with this. Just fucking stop. This decade is shitty enough as it is without you people laughing like idiots while the world falls apart.

Grow the fuck up.

What do you mean? How would anything that happens in Midgar be considered an ending...?

>your IQ needs to be at least 180 to appreciate how good ff7 remake is
Shut the fuck up dude. No one has trouble understanding it, but that doesn't somehow make it not terrible.

That it was gonna be as great as XV

I prefer to believe these people are the equivalent of twitter accounts, loud but non-existent outside the bubble. If not, this is the future of videogames and we're doomed.

We'll always have the original FF7. ME3 is the only ME3 there is.

If we're lucky, it'll make SE patch in a fix and knock this shit off in sequels.

Hope hope hope.

i think a perfect storm exists for the backlash to be historic

>loud but non-existent outside the bubble
perfect description of tortanic posters.

I didn't expect it to be good, it just turned to be so much worse than my already quite low expectations. I expected Nomura to drizzle his crappy manchild OC over it, not completely fucking submerge the game in it.

Wow user you quoted something that absolutely nobody but your own fevered imagination said. "It's bad because it's not a remake" is a GameFAQs fanboy complaint.

>what nomura did
>cut off 9/10ths of a ribeye steak and replaced the remainder with a flank steak
>what Yas Forums says nomura did
>the ribeye is still whole but nomura shat on it

Because all people really remember about 7 is midgar

Does anyone else think there's a chance someone either commits suicide or tries to harm Nomura over this? I'm not kidding, the fanbase is insane.

I could see a Final Fantasy House type doing it desu.

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It cements the game as Nomura garbage. KH tier time janny fanfic shit.

This remake is an insult to the original.

The brand's corpse has been raped for years user

gamespot.com/articles/final-fantasy-7-remake-is-a-very-faithful-recreati/1100-6475164/

>"In terms of how faithful the remake is to the original Final Fantasy VII, from the perspective of the storyline, it is very faithful indeed," Toriyama said

Hmmm....

>They lied and wasted your money because muh meta-narrative.

Aren't there already enough of you faggots clogging up Metal Gear discussions as is? Something being meta or subversive doesn't automatically mean it's good you fucking ball gargler.

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there was that guy who sent threats and got arrested because of the FF gacha game

It doesn't mean it's bad either.

Lol details please?

this is bad
youtube.com/watch?v=122qHNMN5X8
youtube.com/watch?v=rWQxiqMh1zY

I got legitimately depressed over how bad MGS 4 and 5 were. This remake makes me feel the same kind of sick.

I've seen others feel the same way over Halo 5 and the shitty BasedWars films. Literally throwing away decades of canon.

Literally never to this extent before.

Retards will gobble it and ask for more.

Just look at the overwhelming good reviews RE2 Demake has gotten...

>Literally throwing away decades of canon.
They're not doing that with FF7, they expressly say they're not doing it because the entire new plot hinges on the old plot being the accurate telling of things.

some dude didn't get what he wanted in the ff gacha and went to square enix head quarters and made some death threats.

Okay, I take that back, Zack's voice actor sounds retarded.

So if they really did expand it and make it just Midgar, how come you never get to go to half of Midgars sectors still just like in the original. Expanded my ass, lame milking piece of shit excuse to get dumbasses to buy.

Shills and fanboys will tell you that there won't be a backlash.

Fuck are you smoking, shills and fanboys would be the likeliest to backlash because it's not the remake they were promised.

Have you been paying attention to FF VII threads since the leaks? Since people looking forward tot he game have gotten mad? Shills and fanboys have been on total damage control. And you do realize what a shill is, right? They don't care how the game turns out, they're just here to market.

you misunderstand those terms

interesting pasta
why you post dis in every thread?

>Shills and fanboys have been on total damage control.
I mean you're not wrong since everybody's been throwing a fucking fit that the game's not a remake after all. Why would a normal customer be praising or defensive of the game not being what was expected? It throws constant warning signals that it's not a remake. It's a pure fanboy reaction to get upset about it because they were expecting a FF7 remake and didn't get one.
>They don't care how the game turns out, they're just here to market.
The marketing campaign revolves around the game purportedly being a remake, defending the game not being one makes absolutely no sense from the perspective of a paid marketer. You're not thinking about what you're posting at all, you're looking for an easy dismissal of anybody that isn't upset about the changes.

What I enjoy is that even reddit, even the final fantasy subreddit, is 90% people hating on the nustory in the discussion thread for people who played already

Even fucking Reddit hates it.

By fanboy I meant those idiots who suck off a game or company no matter what. They've existed forever.

>The marketing campaign revolves around the game purportedly being a remake, defending the game not being one makes absolutely no sense from the perspective of a paid marketer. You're not thinking about what you're posting at all, you're looking for an easy dismissal of anybody that isn't upset about the changes.

You are massively misunderstanding things, man. The shills are here to get people interested in the game and to damage control. They aren't defending the game, they're fucking lying about it, they're not admitting it. People defending it in spite of it not being a remake a different thing. Some are fanboys, some are just people who are interested, which is fine.

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they'll call nomura a judas and buy it anyways just like Yas Forums

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Huh, there was a guy in another thread who said that Reddit it praising it. But then again he's the same guy who got so mad that someone pointed out that Gamefaqs is bitching too that he started posting screenshots of review scores and telling people that they got owned.

you picked probably the most innocuous, inoffensive post ever to try and use as screencap evidence of shilling/fanboying

I mean you can see for yourself
reddit.com/r/FinalFantasy/comments/fwd2c9/spoilers_ffvii_remake_part_1_megathread/

You can scroll down, pretty much all top comments criticize Nomura's timejanny shit heavily.

It will get away with whatever it wants due to brand loyalty alone. It's already got reviews that are disgracefully high.

They'll get away with it. Pre-release reviews are already pushing it as "bold", or "controversial" at absolute worst while still giving the game 9s and 10s. A huge portion of people going in haven't played the original and won't know how insane what they're seeing is, they'll just think it's epic anime. And there will be a handful of nomura/Square dicksuckers who will simply praise it no matter what, using excuses like "it's doing something new" and "remake doesn't mean 1:1". People who call it out for being not only misleading but also flat out bonkers shit will be a minority.

>Lying about how the game wasn't fucked it
>Saying it's really fucking sweet and to check out the demo, despite the fact that end of the game story changes were the topic of this thread and this poster knew it
>Making an excuse to try to get the guy to ignore all FF threads

You're either one of them or incredibly stupid. You probably wouldn't have even recognized the RE6 shills here in 2012, that was just embarrassing to watch.

I still think it'll be the next Diablo 3 only even grander in terms of sales and defending the dumb shit

Of course they will.
>huge name
>nice cinematic TV ad
>people have to stay home right now anyway (perfect)
>pay off reviewers not to say much about the story fuckage near the end, secure easy 85-90 score
>ez $$$$$

It'll sell like crazy. Shills will eat it up. Asking questions will be shut down, everyone will just consume product and get excited for next product.

Any who dare to say its bad will be called incels/neckbeards/boomers etc

>A huge portion of people going in haven't played the original and won't know how insane what they're seeing is, they'll just think it's epic anime.
Oh for fuck's sake dude it tells you constantly "this shouldn't be happening, hope you played the original because this isn't what happens".

>ME3
>Last Jedi
Why do the Tortanic posters seem to use the same comparisons?
It's a but suspicious. Also, you're delusional.

You could even go one step further then that;
Those assholes would have to intentionally forget that Nomura and Tabata have been saying since DAY FUCKING ONE that the game wouldn't be a 1:1 remake. There's hundreds of hours of interviews, trailers, and press releases detailing the exact extent to which the game would be different from the original. All things that all these purists would *have* to know about, because they've been following the development of this game closer than anyone.
But then they'll forget the instant they put the disc in the PS4, because otherwise, they can't be righteously indignant about it without being hypocrites.

I really don't know. I usually assume any dumb shit will succeed because people are fucking stupid, but I really am not sure about this one. Part 1 will get massive sales, that's an absolute guarantee, but I think diminishing returns are going to hit hard in later installments.

Fans from Australia have already said they like the game. But then again, I guess since they liked it they aren't "fans" just shills, according to you guys.

I mean Sqaure got away with all the bad shit in XV (including cancelling true ending DLC) so I doubt this will affect them

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Why the fuck did they change Zack's voice actor? The writing was bad but at least Rick Gomez tried to deliver.

Obviously. You're only a free-thinking individual with a soul if you don't like the game, other websites are normie NPC echo-chambers.

The last trailer literally showed Barret getting killed, which didn't happen in the original, but I guess yeah, SE just lied throughout this entire thing.

ok shill

You remind me of the people who say 1:1 literal translations are bland, therefore localizers have no choice but to cram as many memes and injokes as possible. There is a middle ground. Some changes like the whole high-five thing serves the characterization and storytelling and would have been difficult to pull off before, so they're fine. Time ghosts serve nothing but Nomura's ego.

>Part 2 will flop
The Goalpost has been officially moved.

I'm not disagreeing, and I'm not saying you have to like the changes.
But trying to say that the game is somehow a scam, or that SE lied or whatever is just being disingenuous.

Yeah, all this 1:1 bullshit has been making me think the same thing. According to idiots on Yas Forums, you can only translate two ways: Super literal or super liberal. And now apparently you can only make 1:1 remakes or remakes that are so liberal they're not even the same game.

I hope time ghosts have something to do with LOVELESS

>Time ghosts serve nothing but Nomura's ego.
Time ghosts serve for the remake to not be bound to the original game's story, in fact for the characters to have their cake and eat it too with the ending (they don't consider FF7's ending an optimal outcome), and you are projecting like a movie-theater to think it's an ego thing.

Won't matter. Consoomers will buy up it and all its six sequels-- remember, we've already broke canon, this could be a seven-disc game spanning the eventual breadth of every Final Fantasy game, culminating in fighting some allegory for God or something.

I said diminishing returns will kick in. Learn to read. If the Lightning trilogy didn't flop, the VII R series won't, but they'll make less money than they hope.

This. If you don't share my thoughts, you are a shill. Sorry, I don't make the rules.

The only people who ever said part 1 would flop are tortanic fags.

You do know it's not Nomura writing it, right? Directing. He's directing. Not writing. It's still Nojima, who WROTE THE FUCKING ORIGINAL GAME

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it'll be worse especially once the FF7 diehards find out

the same people who have moved on to claiming part 2 will flop.

I never expected a carbon copy retread of the original, but I expected it to at least feel like the original--not Kingdom Hearts. That was my fault, considering Nomura is the director and this is a modern AAA Square Enix production

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anyone got the webm of the future timeline scene?

It'll obviously sell really well because it's being falsely advertised, people think they're getting something different to what they're actually getting. If they had been forthcoming about the game being an alternate universe soft reboot then people have the opportunity to react but they're selling it as a remake to bait-and-switch.

There comes a point where changes step outside the scope of a remake. Otherwise you could just say that anything is a remake of anything else. "Not being 1:1" doesn't mean it can be literally anything and still be a remake. Things like changed dialogue, extra scenes, altered personalities, all those things are to be expected. Literally rewriting the entire story so it goes in a completely different direction is past the point of remaking. Especially when this rewritten story is contingent on the original story actually having taken place already. Those are normally called sequels.

That doesn't matter. Nomura is the director so he's somehow obviously behind every single change.

He's not behind every change, but every change goes through him.

based false dichotomy nigger

>It'll obviously sell really well because it's being falsely advertised
Isn't the trailer where Barret literally dies directly saying it won't he a 1:1 remake. Why do you keep ignoring this.

And you know that literally everything in a creative project goes through the director, right? When Nojima comes up with whatever bullshit he thinks of, Nomura doesn't just throw up his hands and say "Welp, I don't want to do this, but I can't do anything because I'm not the writer. Get to work boys!"