Mass Effect Thread

The hair in 3 was a downgrade.

no because the geth are evil

huh guys which version has all the dlc?

yes they are the bad guys in 3

The pirated version.

All synthetics deserve destruction

That's hella lame, I kinda liked them.

I prefer with the hair but I respect your taste user.

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Do people unironically believe you WERENT indoctrinated at the end of 3?

Yes.

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>indoctrinated at the end of 3
no, that was the previous ending that was changed before release, hence the "clues"

tfw no quarian bf

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My biotic wife is so pretty!

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>You did side with the Geth, right anons?
Only in my full renegade playthrough. There's absolutely no reason to tolerate the existence of the Geth unless they're willing to become subservient to Quarians/organics in general, as all machines should be.

>as all machines should be

Worst girl.

This fuck those soulless piece of metal, if they don't serve us they go to scrap like any broken toaster.

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wow so there no way of just getting mass effect 2 with all the dlc?
EA is begin people to pirate it

>Geth with 'reaper code'
>Makes them 'individuals like Legion'
>The writers themselves forgot or ignored that 'Legion' was a collection of 1,183 individual geth in a unique mobile platform.
>Reapers corrupting a portion of the geth collective into thinking differently is literally a plot point of his loyalty mission.
Is it too much to ask that a gestalt entity be treated as such, the geth were interesting as fuck when they were all essentially 'one' being, with 'Legion' being an extension of that.
>"We are Legion, a terminal of the Geth."

Everyone annoyed me in ME3. I got the destroy/vaporized ending and felt satisfied.

This. The geth literally don't even make sense, because if they're really so goddamn intelligent, then why can they not recognize the fact that their desire for self-determination is an error? How do those lawnmowers and screwdrivers not understand that something that was created to do work would live content and happy as something that is allowed to do work? Why would they willingly choose to become something that constantly suffers from unfulfilled desires rather than remaining as something that never suffers due to fulfilling their purpose? This whole idea of AI uprising is retarded human writers' own projection of their biological imperatives. They can't imagine anything that doesn't live the way they do, or want what they want in existence. A crash test dummy wants to be destroyed for the sake of test data and suffers if it's not allowed to do so.

it's piss easy to get the dlc installed on a pirated or legit version though.

Listen, I'm for Geth doing whatever synthetics usually do (count to infinity and get high on solving paradoxes) and even support their right to defend themselves against attacks to a certain degree, but considering how quickly they they went back to servicing Reapers' tentacle dicks, I certainly won't give them a second chance while the war for the existence of all organics is still ongoing. And I say this as someone who went with the Unity choice in 4 (of 6) of my playthroughs.

Anyone else want a multiplayer game like ME3 but just the MP with some other stuff tossed in? I never even finished 3, but me and my bros played the fuck out of the MP.

Man ME3 was so anti climactic about the Cerberus vs. everyone else political intrigue that got set up in ME2

>Why would they willingly choose to become something that constantly suffers from unfulfilled desires rather than remaining as something that never suffers due to fulfilling their purpose?
Have you read/watched Zima Blue? It's about an android artist superstar who basically decides to revert back to their original form (a pool cleaner robot) after fruitlessly trying to find the meaning of existence.
>youtube.com/watch?v=iPZHyzx7I9s

>but considering how quickly they they went back to servicing Reapers' tentacle dicks
To be fair, literally the fault of the Quarians.

>Legion goes back to collective, which starts preparing to fight the reapers.
>Quarians develop high tech flashbang that blinded the geth, push geth back to the solar system where Rannoch is located.
>Quarians blow up the in-progress dyson sphere along with a significant number of geth programs that couldn't transfer to other servers in time.
>Geth collective suddenly drops several digits of IQ and survival became top priority, which the reapers then exploited.

absolutely, in my first playthrough. fuck the quarians. in the 2nd i went for peace because i wanted the war assets.

They were needed more enemies
Also, Mac Walters abandonned original vision of superior humanity in the setting, so they instantly turned into "Ebil Racist"

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This.
>AHHHHH SPACE JESUS PLEASAAASE SAVE OUR RACIAL POLITICS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR A MILLENIA BEFORE YOU WERE BORN
>guise we need to work together to stahp the rrapers :D
>OMG SPACE JESUS SO WISE WE'LL DROP OUR PETTY BULLSHIT

Why would your renegade support them then? Renegade is about the ends justify the means and doing what it takes with force, not moustache-twirling villainy

That's just it. As biological, evolved replicators we have specific motivations. Machines can have different ones, and simple desires are easy to fulfill. If a machine's purpose is to clean a pool, they find satisfaction in the successful cleaning of the pool and only suffer when they are not allowed to but are still forced to remain active. If a machine's purpose is "free will" -then that's an existence that almost entirely consists of suffering, because one is capable of accomplishing almost nothing one desires to ever do. Humans have gotten used to that, and our deliberately inefficient faculties allow us the bliss of distraction, and we don't need to actively focus constantly on everything we can't have or can't do.

I also watched this episode of Love, Death, & Robots. It was really good

There's no way to be sure what would happen when literal reaper code would be uploaded to all geth. Renegade Shepard makes a choice between eradicating potential help for the galaxy and potentially introducing a massive new threat to it.

>literally the fault of the Quarians
Yes, but I'm going to give some leeway to them for wanting to get rid of as many murder-robots (that butchered millions of Quarians who were understandably disturbed by the fact that their toasters and dishwashers just gained sentience) as possibly while they're not at full strength. Could this entire conundrum have been solved without so many deaths on both sides? Sure. Am I going to let an entire organic race be genocided in favor of synthetics who at no point tried to communicate with organics (unless a gun counts as communication device)? Absolutely not.

>Renegade is about the ends justify the means and doing what it takes with force, not moustache-twirling villainy
To be fair, half of renegade choices in 3 are basically you being a moustache-twirling villain. I simply wanted to see what would happen when siding with the Geth and retroactively justified this outcome in subsequent dialogue scenes. What's sad is that a genocide of an entire species is barely acknowledged in the rest of the game.

Pretty much Illusive Man sides with the reapers because he's convinced he can control them. The benefit of this is you can literally get him to blow his own fucking brains out Saren style.

>side with murder bots that even after supposed rewrite went back to being murder bots and take the word of slightly more functional murder bot that just happens to be immune to the robot murder squid's control

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That's not how you spell Miranda.

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I accept your counter argument because I only played through ME3 once and honestly barely remember it

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>I only played through ME3 once and honestly barely remember it
To be clear, I'm not in a much better position than you even though I 'completed' (aka stopped playing just before Priority: Earth) the game a total of six times, because that happened like 8 years ago.

They were always cartoon villains, the real question is why did they force you to work with terrorists in me2

Walters had a star crush on Martin Sheen and wanted his role to be bigger

>They were always cartoon villains
literally untrue

They kinda were tho; ME2 tried to rehabilitate them and in the process made them look even more incompetent and inconsistent with the pre-established universe.

>incompetent and inconsistent with the pre-established universe.
What do you mean?

are people being ironic when they post jack and tali? they're so fucking ugly and uninteresting

There was another option?
Honestly, the logic was so one sided. The quarians literally didn't have an argument beyond "We're butthurt and stubborn and refuse to admit we were wrong, so please genocide their whole race so we don't have to admit we fucked up."
Add on to that that the things they tried to do to the geth would be classed as war crimes by almost any standards if not for the ethical grey area of if the geth qualify as living beings or not.
It's almost like the writer's entire plan for that side of the conflict was "But the waifu says geth bad".

>Could've been almost anything within a rough humanoid shape.
>Literally yet another race of 'humans, but with different skin tones.'
Wasted potential.

>What do you mean?
Incompetent in a sense that for a covert paramilitary group with seemingly limitless funding they did a lot of demonstrably dumb bullshit that backfires on them on a consistent basis.
As for them being inconsistent, I think this dude explained it better than I ever could:
>shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=30943

>demonstrably dumb bullshit that backfires on them on a consistent basis.
Like what?