L4D1 is better than L4D2

>No ragdoll physics
>Gun models are huge
>No first person immersion
>random southern infected in L4D1 maps
>ugly hand models
obviously was made for consoles

>The new infected ruined everything and made it too much of a coinflip
Opinion disregarded and you're obviously a waifu shitter and can't be taken seriously in any shape or form but that you pointed out the new infected as a flaw completely outed you.

Spitter is hands down the best addition to the game since spitters are a perfect counter to camping. Charger and jockey give your team a fighting chance even if the survivor team has great cooperation and sticks together like glue. In L4D 1 it was impossible to win against the survivors if they were well organized, it didn't matter how well you played as the infected. The survivors couldn't lose be it in survival or versus.

Mind you, the survivors still have the advantage. If they play really well, guard blind spots, don't enter danger spots and in general just play very organized and quickly then the infected still can't do shit, it doesn't matter how good or organized the infected are.

Even if they are a good addition it's not the point. The point is, L4D1 was dumbed down for console audiences. Too many things point towards this. Should have just updated L4D1.

L4D2 was dumbed down for console audiencs. Typo

Agreed wholeheartedly. We should put together some games. No Mercy the best campaign of all time.

dont forget dual pistols being worthless

I admit on release the game was dumbed down but since release everything was patched and console versions were left in the dust. On release melee and striking zombies back was way too good but they since patched it to be very balanced and less lenient then even in Left 4 Dead 1.

Honestly, you could argue a lot about L4D2 being worse if you just count release day but L4D2 got a ridiculous amount of refinement and content patches. Hell, the game itself has all the L4D1 content and a great steam workshop. At this point in time it's ridiculous and even unfair to compare L4D1 to L4D2.

But I admit I have more fond memories of L4D1 too. In general I beleive that L4D is a game that gets very repetitive and boring quickly so it didn't even need a L4D2.

Workshop that's pretty much pointless if you enjoy playing versus. Because a decade later valve out of nowhere disabled mods for versus because people were abusing mods that gave them advantages. So they just threw it all out.

>The new infected ruined everything and made it too mu-

UOOOOOAAAAAUUUGHHHH
>knocks you off the map in No Mercy

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L4D1
>setting up a insta-kill required very careful timing and often involved multiple players working together

L4D2
>I charger me press lmb me run fast

then play on modded servers if you want survivors to be fullbright neptunia anime girls so you can snipe them you versushitter

Redpilled.

Versus was an afterthought that wasn't even fun after 5 rounds.

You're all autistic

ur an aspie

Are Chargers just infected coomers? Why the big arm?

bad Yas Forums opinion

It was fun in the early days when common infected dealt damage according to hard difficulty so the boomer was actually a showstopper.
It was fun to play a slow and methodical approach, locating equipment and working together.
That quickly fell apart when they lowered the difficulty for whatever reason so now you can just blast through the map.
All they had to do was balance towards less rushing and more caution. Regardless that time is over, autism rules in L4D now.

play realism versus

>play with chinks
>one guy rushes forward
>like way way waaaay forward
>gets jockeyed
>throws a slew of chinese noodlerunes at us as he dies
I don't know what he was expecting.

It's what is keeping L4D2 alive
Do you know how fucked modded servers are? They always have shit ping accompanied with plugins that lag your game even more and always have some shit VIP thing where you can insta kill the special infected or some gimmick shit.

Hear me out. Imagine a Left 4 Dead type of game but in a battle royale map. You get thrown in the map, must locate weapons and survival goods like water food etc and then you must survive against hordes of zombies.

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how it was dumbed down?

>Versus was an afterthought
that's why valve 10 years later released a patch for it. Without versus, game would have died years ago. It's what keeps the game fresh.

kino

>Weapon models were made bigger
>Ragdolls removed (was suppose to be for defibrillators but they still should have kept them in)
>Hand models look worse in L4D2
>They didnt bother making new L4D1 themes for the new infected
>disabled mods for versus

Going slow means getting whittled down by infinite spawns. Be quick or be dead.

nobody plays that mode

Why are the l4d2 gun melee animations so much worse?

>Hand models look worse in L4D2
Fucking kek, that's how you know someone is grasping at straws.

I had other points you know, but you go ahead and cherry pick you fat retard.

Your other points are feeble too but that one takes the fucking cake. Is it truly necessary to push your agenda if this is the kind of argument that backs it up?

I prefer L4D1

>push your agenda
take your meds schizo.

Let's stay civil, I think we both prefer not having to end this in a last word argument where we just throw insults at each other.

cringe

Like you've been doing?
You don't even address user's points, you just pick and choose a point in his comment and do what? Argue against it? No, you just dismiss them.
Fuck off with your civility, you're a humongous faggot.

I'm sorry for how I have behaved. Please forgive me. I should have considered each point more.

What are you, 12?

Are you by chance retarded?

L4D1 was substantially better for PVE. The game promoted absolute mastery of its mechanics, which is why the "Nothing Special" achievement was ever possible.
L4D2 was made with an increased focus on PVP. It buffed the options of the infected into the sky by giving them 3 more anti-camping tools, while also nerfing all survivor weapons into the ground. This means that they removed FUN for the sake of BALANCE.
I will never forgive them for what they did to my shotgunfu, so I will always prefer L4D1.

Agreed. L4D2 infected were shit and the atmosphere was gone.

The coping is real.

what are you braindead?

How is that coping? We can all play L4D2 if we wanted but we go back to L4D1 instead? Isn't that saying something? Your zoomer buzzwords don't work on games that came out when you were born.

I'm not hearing you deny it...

Which game had the cute gay redneck?
I loved that game

>No ragdoll physics

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What are you gay?

How so?

That's what makes the game worse for you? Not the gameplay but graphical downgrade?
I thought dumbing down a game for console meant streamlining the gameplay, like bigger hitbox, aim correction, weapon limitation etc

L4D1 had ragdoll phsyics on survivors who died. In 2 they have a death animation.

>Friend gives me a bunch of mods for next time we play L4D together.
>Everyone is an anime girl
>sonic the hedhog noises as the hunter flies across the level
>Arrive at the part where the tank appears
>"Get out of my swamp!" bellows from the distance as shrek proceeds to wreck us
God bless the source engine and all its autists.