Aliens and Predator franchises movies and games

>Aliens and Predator franchises movies and games
>Good
Don't make me laugh, faggots. In fact we should have a thread about how creatively bankrupt everyone working for Aliens is. Even Predator (2018) had more imagination. It especially make me laugh when 20th century fox advises their writers to not explore the aliens' origins right after Ridley and Cameron did exactly that.
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Alien > Alien 3 > Aliens > Prometheus > Requiem > Reasurection

Predator > Predators > Predator 2 > The Predator

I'm not sure what you are trying to say but the first two avp games were good, especially the Monolith one.

All movies are shit. Enjoy wasting your time on dying media, faggot.

It's dying because your writers guild(2010+) hired nothing but idiots who passed because they sucked dick with the teacher and everybody lowered the bar.
It's like everybody let in all the fanfic writers after 2010.

>travel lightyears to hunt 'the most dangerous game'
>get btfo by mud

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>Ultimate being
>Gets BTFO by mud n bullets.

Most of the aliens from Halo, Starcraft, Starship Troopers even the fantasy monsters from Diablo and Warcraft would whip the floor with the xenos.

i want a game like Isolation but more of a sandbox. Instead of your objectives being clear and you knowing exactly what to do because the game tells you let the player scavenge around for parts and avoid / fight aliens with limited ammo and supplies. Let the end objective be to repair the communications system to send out a warning or something but not forced too hard. So you spend the game running around the facility welding shut or open vents, collecting parts to repair other parts of the stations to get access to new areas or build little bases in the facility. You could free roam in isolation but it felt too railroady to me which didnt give much opportunity for player agency or creativity,

only the first alien and predator are truly good.
Aliens and Predator 2 are decent flicks.
Isolation is an alright game.
Everything else is garbage.

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AVP2 multiplayer was fun as fuck back in the day and the single player is decent too.

that last Aliens movie with Fassbender and Danny McBride was so unbelievably bad, my one friend fell asleep and my other friend and I almost got thrown out for dying laughing at the weirdly homoerotic ‘Fassbender teaches himself to play the flute’ part

Why did everyone hate Covenant? I wanted to watch it but completely forgot about it

Because the crew is even more fucking stupid than the one from prometheus, not to mention the story goes full retard.

Because it wasn’t a dumb cheesy 80’s horror movie like 1. Covenant was kino for David, just like Prometheus.

Because it wasn't Aliens. It really boils down to this with every film following Aliens, people just want to watch it again with minor variations each time. Whatever valid criticism could be said about Prometheus and Covenant is drowned out by "It's not Aliens".

Alien holds up better than any of its sequels.
It's still a great film.

This. Alien/Aliens fans are so god damn stupid. They get actual interesting shit that explores the world, like Robots and the Engineers and how they both factor into the creation of xenomorphs, but no. They just want another B-movie horror flick like 1 or a fucking even dumber B-movie action flick like 2. They’re basically Marvel fans.

>Alien holds up better than any of its sequels.

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nah they just hold the series to a higher standard. I don't want to watch derivative jewy schlock like Prometheus or new Terminator Goblina flicks.
You can keep them, they befit your crayon eating kind.

I liked Prometheus because it was interesting, covenant was a horrible halfway point between interesting sci-fi world building and pulp shlock. It didn’t try to be a good movie either, like why did they need a scene where two people get killed while fucking? Is this an 80s slasher flick? Are we doing meta-commentary on what people expect in a garbage movie that has no room to judge others expectations? It was terrible, nobody should have anything positive to say about it, even Danny McBride only got like 20 minutes of screen time, like Brian Cranston in Godzilla, bad bad terrible bad movie

yes. It's a timeless classic like The Thing.
Prometheus and Covenant are just shutty cash grabs nobody will remember in a decade.

System Shock, Prey, especially Space Station 13, I'm sure there's more.

Metroid > 1000 light years away > Shit > That entire list
Any fucking sci fi horror movie is better than the Predator and Alien series.
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They're basically Sonic fans.

>nah, we're smarter because we want to see five people run away from a man in a rubber suit with no variation from the first movie.
>all that shit that actually pushes the series forward? No, that’s for “crayon eating” people who aren’t smart enough to enjoy the same movie over and over and over again, just like my marvel kinos!
Alien fans are a new breed of retard.

prometheus and covenant are decent. i'd rather take an ambitious movie that misses the mark then the same space station gauntlet that ends with blowing the bug out of the airlock. fassbender on fassbender action is pretty good too

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The first movie doesn’t hold up at all because it literally just looks like a man with a long dick for a head. It isn’t scary in the slightest.

Prometheus was miles ahead of Covenant

Glad to see this was posted.
I grew up watching these films with my dad and always remembering him saying never to watch alien 3.

He was right.

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>44 minutes dedicated to 1 start reviews
bruh lowest score and highest score reviews on a site that allows you to be for the most part anonymous can safely be ignored save for a few rare cases (see reforged)

Prometheis too much buildup with david and not enough payoff. Cvenant was the right amount of payoff with him but with kind of a muttled payoff that didn’t quite match prometheus.

>cash grabs
On the contrary, Prometheus and Covenant were Ridley Scott's personal projects. Even though Prometheus turned profit, Ridley had to slash Covenant's budget to get it made.

AvP2 was amazing

when the FUCK are they gonna adapt any of the comics

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I personally hate Alien 1 & 2 and I find Alien 4 more promising than even Alien 2.
However make no mistake, the execution is boring. Tons of interesting ideas wasted like finally the aliens sharing their hosts' attributes enough to recognize Ripley as an Alien and not kill her, instead killing the primary queen and Ripley getting alien-like abilities. And finally the mercenaries are more competent than the marines and SOMEWHAT are harder to kill.
Aliens even learn how to swim, put traps, spit acid, learn to jail break.
Weyland Yutani finally achieve their Resident Evil wannabe lab only for the idiots to not acid-proof their cells.
Also not enough species and types of aliens and types of reproduction. The queen alien is still a boring idea compared to morphing the humans into eggs.

The thing is I've seen these ideas in my edgy ridiculous cartoons since I was a boy ... those cartoons had better writing than these movies.

i actually am not really into movies, I saw prometheus without knowing it was an alien movie and thought it was great. (obviously i figured it out by the ending) I have liked all the movies associted with that universe except resurrection, wow that one is terrible.

Prometheus felt like something Ridley wanted to make, Covenant felt Hollywood. Like the end of covenant is Danny McBride fighting a xeno on top of a spaceship, if I’m remembering correctly, that’s too far

>digitigrade is scary
ok pal

Danny McBride is in the movie for like five minutes, and he doesn't fight anything.

I meant Alien 1 & 3. "Oh no there's 10-20 of us and we can't kill this 1 OP animal" at the very least if the animal was Riddick or The Thing.

I view the comics the same way I view Alien 4 and The Predator, tons of interesting and fun ideas, but ridiculously clumsy, immature, pathetic and badly written.
I especially hate Dark Horse's "gritty" style. I saw Batman and Spawn comic books prettier. I hate those dirty scribbles all over the place.

Anyway what I expected out of Dark Horse was less Ben 10 Alien Force/Star Trek pretentiousness and more wholesome atmospheric simple action like Doom, Halo Starship Troopers. Simple, effective, to the point.
I believe Alien 1 and 3 fail at the atmosphere, video games with their vast settings and music do a better job at atmosphere.

>alienating viewers
>tanking at the box office
>pushing the series forward
jesus dude. I'll take a rubber man in a Giger designed suit over your fassbender circlejerk anyday, thanks.

Why yes, Alien Isolation was a great game. How did you know?

seemingly he lost his touch, then
Those movies are bottom barrel garbage.

>Oh no we can't afford another skull or afford to make the suit more resilient, BUT WE CAN AFFORD TO WASTE 60K ON THE PODS, on Ripley singing "You're my Lucky Star" and various other unnecessary shit.

>alien 1
>failing at atmosphere

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I wish Alien Isolation would have somehow come out in 1979. It's 35 years too late.

Making the xeno dead-sprint at the ship like a roidraging chimpanzee is when they went too far.

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doesn’t someone fight a xenomorph on top of the ship towards the end? sorry it’s been awhile since I watched it
>Danny McBride is only in it for five minutes
I wish he was in it more to be honest, I don’t have a problem with him being in it

Yeah you got a problem punk? You might have been tough shit when compared to Swamp Thing and various hilariously adventure comedy "horror" movies, but when you're fighting with the big boys you better learn your place.
The Thing was far tenser and atmosphere-intensive.

We should have gotten a Metroid movie instead.

Daniels, the short haired chick.She fights an alien on top of the cargo lift when they're boosting the fuck away from the planet.

Alien Isolation was better than either of them. Also nobody's saying a new Alien movie should be a copy of the original Alien you dipshit pseud. But people wants a boring pretentious sci fi when they hear the name Alien either.

How?

the comics have so many ideas that could be put to use. i don't mind the campiness that a lot of them have.

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>prometheus
>anything but pure shit
It's worse than "alien 4"

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Aliens Vs Predator 2 would have made for a better movie and status quo setting. The marines actually feel like marines instead of high schoolers. The mercenary corporates also feel like they're horrible people doing illegal shit and not just a shit-grinning moron and a pathetic opportunistic asshole like Burke and Ashe or even David.

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Can't say the same for AvP3 n Colonial Marines, fuck the setting and characters.

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ah, I just remember when the obligatory ‘people getting killed while fucking’ scene happened was the final nail in the coffin, towards the end of the movie but really I don’t remember really enjoying any part of it

>nobody's saying a new alien movie should be the copy of the original alien
people have been crying for blood non-stop for prometheus/covenant not being 'alien' enough while never enlightening on what nuance there was for whatever formula it had. what the fuck DO you guys want

They don't know what the fuck they want, just like the Sonic the Hedgehog fanbase.

Me? I want AVP2 the video game, Halo or Metroid with Giger's penishead design in there. Simple easy to understand examples. None of this pretentious "Ayylmaoo is a sophisticated sex, nightmarish, ultimate tense horror experience, like a spider alien you don't know where it is" Yeah thanks 200 more movies and games did what Alien/Aliens did but better. Just say it loud that you want your penis head already.

>prometheus nintenbabby wants a metroid movie while shitting on alien
yikes dude

Am I the only one bothered by the sounds effects and music used in the movies? They're incredibly generic and weak, especially the pulse rifle sound which sounds muffled. The aliens' hissing doesn't impress me, I originally thought the Alien's main screech was the Derelict's SOS signal.

Instead I'm very impressed with the Predator's sounds both from him and the gadgets.

I hit you where it hurts? Glad I did.

>fassbender on fassbender action is pretty good too
Based.
David was the only okay thing about those two movies.

First and foremost they should focus on making a horror film, not an action film, or a sci fi film but a horror film. The rest of the pieces will fall into place if they focus on that e.g. an actually interesting threat instead of the Deacon or whatever.

Would you guys recognize the Aliens theme if you heard it? Does Alien(s) even have a motif?

>Why did everyone hate Covenant
Gee, where to begin? The whole movie is shit because logic in the script is non-existent.

Anyone up for some matches of AVP2? They have really good mods which improve the gameplay and atmosphere.
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>Not one mention of the Capcom AvP beat-em-up
The fuck is wrong with you people

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As cartoonish as the voices sound I actually enjoy the voice acting. Far far better over "realistic" sounding voices where the actors talk like they're bored out of their mind or it's painfully obvious they're not voice actors.