Does it hold up? I’m not too fussed about the gameplay because I don’t really care about the gameplay in Skyrim or Fallout I mainly play them for the exploring, quests and lore.
Is Oblivion worth playing in 2020?
It’s better than Skyrim.
have you heard of the high elves?
It's much better than skyrim
it is my favorite elder scrolls game
>does it hold up?
>I don't care about gameplay
Then every game 'holds up' for you as well as it would have on launch you retard, if you don't care about gameplay then the concept of a game 'holding up' is meaningless. Don't grasp straws and come at this from a graphical standpoint, you know what the fucking game looks like, thats not what you were asking
It still needs to be playable. There’s a difference between ‘is the gameplay enjoyable’ and ‘the game is obviously old as shit but is the outdated gameplay alienating’.
Best TES game by far, spent like 500 hours on it back in the day on the 360. Very colorful and atmospheric instead of the grey shit that's Skyrim.
Prime candidate for “Bethesda fatigue”
gameplay is literally skyrim but better and less restrictive in every way
Yes, but don't mod it too heavily, the aging engine will just shit itself
I am playing it rn with just a few mods and it's stellar
The story for each questline is really good. the dark brotherhood and the thieves guild Is kino
Stories and moments of certain guilds and sidequests still hold up, Dark Brotherhood/Thieves Guild in particular. Shivering Isles as a whole is still one of the best and weirdest dlcs in Wrpgs. As for exploring, the world is very sparse and samey by today's standards, but has a certain charm
Too much bloom, the grass is glowing so much it looks radioactive.
not really, try going outside on a very bright sunny day
i can see myself replaying morrowind
i can see myself replaying oblivion
i cant see myself replaying skyrim without getting bored after getting to riverwood
Does anyone know a good mod for getting all the windows to light up at night? I tried to get one to work recently but for whatever reason the new mod manager just said no.
just install it with wryebash there's only that one mod that's complete and works
Based
fpbp
Oblivion is great and it's better modded.
How? Wasn’t Oblivion pretty much the first game of its kind?
>install improved UI/inventory mod that turns the cluttered xbox/ps3 designed menu more PC friendly, better inventory management and bigger map view too
>install improved faces mod to get rid of the potato face syndrome
>game is now ten times more immersive
It's still fun and I've had over 100 hours of exciting gameplay. The only problems it has are the same core problems that it had 14 years ago; awful level scaling, voice acting, janky physics, weird AI behavior, copy pasted castles, and the typical Elder Scrolls run-backwards-jumping-and-slowly-chip-away-health-from-enemies-for-five-minutes-until-they-die combat. I wish there was a mod that gave more diverse cast of voice actors because even if Wes Johnson is a great voice actor, his voice is so recognizable that you can immediately tell him apart from the NPCs, and he literally voices 90% of the characters.
>awful level scaling
lots of mods remove it
>voice acting
it's not bad, it's just very few VAs, the dialogue makes up for it
>janky physics
sure, but at least it has physics
>copy pasted castles
u mean imperial forts? mods
Morrowind is one of the worst games I have ever played.
>shit combat
>slow movement
>no actual dialogue
>bad atmosphere
>race mixing
I'm not sure I will enjoy Oblivion. I longed for good RPGs and get deluded after trying what nostalgia subhumans consider a good game.
For me personally, I've spent hundreds if not thousands of hours on Oblivion constantly re-creating characters, doing different playthroughs to downright roleplaying (With the help of various mods)
I enjoyed the art and concept of Skyrim, but for a roleplaying game it felt like I was given too much freedom to change, there wasn't really a reason to re-create a character if my existing character could just immediately turn from a warrior to a mage in an instant with no downsides
Oblivion (And Morrowind) have a good sense of character building which you need to get right beforehand otherwise it will handicap you later on. Choose the right birthsign and Class for your character and level the correct skills. Of which only your main skills actually level you up (And level quicker)
Oblivion Modded will make for some very interesting gameplay and is definitely worth it when you start getting bored of the usual oblivion formula
From little things like "Alternate Start" to skip the tutorial and roleplay a certain character up to mods like "Knights of the Nine Revelations" which has you go back in time to aid the Humans to overthrow the eleves and command a vast army of crusaders.
Oblivion is only as good as you make it to be.
>bro just install game breaking mods, bro
Nah. Oblivion is janky to the core and no amount of mods can fix it, only make it more unstable. Best way to play it in 2020 is by intalling graphics mods and fan patches to prevent it from crashing.
Also
>shit leveling
>soulless fetch quest that retards consider good because you have to think what path to take to get there, this is the greatest achievement this people have in their life.
People rarely talk about the disappointingly bad dialogue system. If you think Fallout 4 has it bad, Oblivion had it even worse. At least in Fallout 4 you're being given the illusion of choise, but in Oblivion you don't even have that. It's all either yes or no, usually just yes. I can't even tell if there's alternative solutions for quests or branching storylines.
It wasn’t worth playing when it came out lol. I went back to Morrowind.
It's a pretty good game with good quests. I've tried some mods that supposedly got rid of world scaling but the overall experience wasn't good, or they came along with stuff that unnecessarily complicated the game. I just accepted that it's a flawed game and enjoyed it a lot afterwards. Modding it was a bitch though if my memory serves right.
nice strawman bro
also good job outing yourself as a retard zoomer with no attention span
It's better than Morrowind but not as good as Skyrim. Skyrim isn't as good as Daggerfall, so I guess if that old game is worth playing, this one is too.
There's no strawman there, idiot.
>you don't like shit games so you must be a zoomer with no attention span
This is a strawman.
Keep eating shit, subhuman.
>exploring, quests and lore.
Yes, it's better than Skyrim.
Modding is a pain in the ass, but after a couple of years, I've found the best way to do it is with Wrye Bash and Manual Installation. Using something like NMM usually broke the game. BOSS is useful for load-order too. Uninstalling is a bitch too, but I've got almost 86 EPS' installed and loaded, and I can say that it's holding up pretty stable.
you're literally addressing an argument nobody fucking made
that's a strawman
you needing big pointy arrows and fast travel
that's outing yourself as a zoomer with no attention span
Pretty good. Just remember: do the mage quests to get access to the mage guild area if you plan on using magic ideally asap.
Do the main quest up until kvatch and the portal there before level 5 if possible though if not, lower the difficulty a bit if you find it too hard.
That being said, there is a difficulty slider, use it.
ESP's not EPS
Also to add, most of the ESP's aren't too heavy either. It all comes down to what works and doesn't work - if a mod just fucks over 16 other mods by incompatibility, just remove it. No point getting a headache over oblivion's bullshit.
>you're literally addressing an argument nobody fucking made
I was critizing a game
>that's a strawman
Wrong
>you needing big pointy arrows and fast travel
>that's outing yourself as a zoomer with no attention span
Wrong
illumination within?
>no argument
>UR WRONG IM RIGHT
kill yourself
>I don't know what is an argument
Morrowind is the perfect game for midwit autists who don't know how to have fun but also aren't clever enough to enjoy a game with any real difficulty. In Morrowind the challenge is to endure for long enough to finish it complete and utter boredom.
I'll be honest, the biggest thing I dislike about Oblivion was the Difficulty slider. It was simply artificial difficulty - it didn't make the enemies higher level or spawn more or made the AI harder to fight against. All it did was increase the amount of damage that the enemies did and decrease the amount of damage that the player did.
literally nobody ever said whatever you're trying to force
nobody fucking praised morrowind questing the way you described it
not an argument you fucking strawmanning manchild
Wrong. Not an argument. You are the one starwmanning. Keep eating shit.
>i'll keep parroting, that means i WON WON ME I WIN LALALALA
just use a mod to fix the fucked level scaling/player leveling and you're golden
>reee stop calling me out, ur just parroting
Stay mad, subhuman.
let me guess, you consider the witcher 3 not only an rpg, but a good rpg to boot?
Is Oblivion really the stepping stone? Skyrim being a shallow roleplaying experience but really fun, and Morrowind being Morrowind, is Oblivion the one to rule them all? Fitting, it being the one the most like The Lord of the Rings.
>resorts to 'stay x, keep y'
pathetic
>Morrowind being Morrowind, is Oblivion the one to rule them all
well no. morrowind is fantastic because it's morrowind, and oblivion is fantastic because it's oblivion. simple as that
it's why I like it, actually. The leveling NPCs tend to be artifical difficulty for the sake of "you got to level 20, now everyone has great armor and great spells"
>decide to adventure and explore around before doing the main quest, like I would do in any open world RPG
>level up to high level thief and get good equipment
>decide to start the main quest
>get to Kvatch
>get fucked in the ass buy daedroth and level 100 evil wizards with bullshit insta-kill spells
>crawl my way through the mission by spamming quicksave and arrows from high places where daedroth can't reach
Thanks for the epic level scaling, Todd. What a cool way of making the player feel like level upping doesn't actually make your character stronger but only the game harder. I have to admit that going through that felt like a true achievement, but it wasn't really fun. At least in Morrowind you started as a weakling and slowly became good and finally a god.
No. Your next line is to deflect the notion of your insinuating that Morrowind is a "good" RPG as another strawman.
>ad hominem
No, but still much better than morrowshit.
>1000th post and still not an argument
Pathethic
seeing random thugs running around in full sets of daedric armor was kinda off-putting desu, especially if you played morrowind before, where a full set of daedric armor was iirc unobtainable without killing an essential npc
sticking fingers in your ears and screaming LALALALA IM RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG LALALALA CANT HEAR YOU doesn't win you the discussion, kid
Why would a thief think it was a good idea to stroll around a city overrun by demon warriors?
Play Morrowind intead. It's just a better version of Oblivion.
Stop projecting
dumb doesn't read the thread poster
Nope. It's one of the worst game ever.
See
don't use the words you don't know the meaning of, son
denial only gets so deep
I loved how in Morrowind you could obtain high level armor and weapons as a low level character if you knew how to be sneaky and clever because the gear wasn't level scaled. Can't do that in Oblivion, and when you finally get that sweet glass armor, so does everyone else. Finding that one glass pauldron from Vivec treasury was a great achievement for my low level thief character. Nothing like that is possible in Oblivion.
Again projecting. Everything you say describes you perfectly.
It's part of the main quest to go to Kvatch.
Nah.
i'm serious, get a dictionary before you embarrass yourself further
>literally shits on an opinion nobody ever made
>that's not a strawman tho, you're projecting
Why were you playing the main quest as a thief?
>>literally shits on an opinion nobody ever made
No, I was critizing a game proving how bad it is despite the fact that this board says it is the best.
Stay mad, shit eater.
You have no argument and everything I said is true.
I agree, I always disliked how everyone seemed to get OP with you. No matter how much you level up, the people just get as powerful
A good example of levelling would be Fallout New Vegas. Unless you knew what you were doing - you'd avoid the I-19 which was filled with Deathclaws and such, but instead, go south and face low-level powder gangers. In Oblivion, I would love the idea that certain areas would only have low-level bandits and wolves then other areas would be filled with Liches trolls and warrior guardians regardless of your level.
To get free stuff and inflict stealth damage. The stealth damage system is really good and kinda balances the gameplay even with bullshit level scaled enemies. I've passed many quests by killing the enemies with just few arrows.