A pretext, nothing more...

Whatever they were smoking was good shit. This game was spot on, decades before its time.

Where did their info come from?

I've heard they listened to conspiracy radio shows a lot, but I seriously doubt that's it. They really must have done some research before making this game, reading, watching movies, etc. There's just so much information along with fascinating dialogue, both philosophical, political, and entertaining.

>Where did their info come from?
Are you a retarded zoomer who thinks that the world was born with you or something?

looks like a soiface

You can literally see this now with how people beg for more surveillance and governmental and corporate social policing.

Too bad everyone uses it to look for an excuse to punish someone instead of looking for good things to praise

Most people have this mentality that the cyberpolice will only ever use their cudgel against people they don't like. In a way they're not wrong, especially if you derive your morality from Hollywood.

>HAHAHA HEY JC BE VEEERY SURE NOT TO KILL MY NSF BUDD- I MEAN...THE TERRORISTS! THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS AND SHOULD BE TREATED WITH RESPECT EVEN THOUGH YOU SEE THEM TAKING HOSTAGES AND THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE GAME SAYING THAT THE NSF RUINED THEIR HOMES AND LIVES AND KILLED THEIR FAMILY AND FRIENDS LMAO ALSO IGNORE THE FACT THAT THE NSF ACTIVELY ARMS THUGS AND COMMON CRIMINALS BECAUSE SMASH THE STATE BRO
>WHAT? NO, I WON'T EVEN TELL THEM TO GO EASY ON YOU HAHA WHAT ARE YOU A RETARD THEY ARE FREE TO RIDDLE YOU FULL OF HOLES BUT DON'T YOU DARE HARM THEM IN ANY WAY
Paul was kind of a dick

Hey man relax, it was just a self-defense situation.

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oh yeah yeah

>>The UN was founded not to end war, but to gradually dissolve national governments and replace them with a Globalist meritocracy.
It’s done a pisspoor job at it then since no one respects then UN and is pretty much close to dissolvement in the near future

The United States is closer to achieving what the UN set out to do by spreading it's multi-cultural ideology through entertainment or force. What's more chilling is that this is all happening informally and without a declared banner so if you try to point this out you will only be called paranoid. But many people all the world have regarded how their military defense or culture is controlled by America.

Following up on this post. This is why the scenario depicted in Deus-Ex is so amusing, because it treats America as an occupied nation being ruled over by the UN. But in reality, it is the US who rules the UN, and America would become the real life UNATCO, not the UN. America is the real UN in terms of defacto power and influence.

>What's more chilling is that this is all happening informally and without a declared banner so if you try to point this out you will only be called paranoid.
Literally every third-worlder is mad at America, especially on Yas Forums

the UN isn’t portrayed as controlling America, it’s as much of a pawn to majestic 12 as the government

But Majestic 12 is secret, they're not the formally declared power of the in-game world. Also, UNATCO is a police force who answers to the UN, not the United States. It's basically if the "blue helmets" fear were realized.

The USA in the Deus Ex universe is a nation ruined by earthquakes, drug abuse, civil war and disease.

No. Most games are made by leftist calimutts so the best we get is tranny shit or orange man bad tier hot takes.

The information has always been out there. Not the general direction of things has been obvious to anyone with a brain and the will to use it for awhile.
Vague statements like that post don't hold a candle to more specific methods and predictions that the game predicted but these too are just the devs listening to the fringe and filtering out the shizo shit.

>group fighting against larger most sinister group that is taking society hostage is bad for using a handful of them in order to save lives
Imagine thinking like this.

Weird that this was considered leftist back in 2001, now it's right-leaning. The two party system really is a fucking mistake.

>it's ok for the taliban to kill people slowly because they fight america

America is indeed the hegemon but it's steadily losing influence to China, Russia and arguably Europe.
There will be war in the next 100 years - war with China. If there isn't America will lose its chance at the ascendant and I doubt they'll die gracefully, they seem more inclined to go down kicking and screaming.
Works for me, I'd rather be an American puppet than a chinese one. American are Huxley-esque in their dictatorship, Chinese are Owellian.

yes goy, diplomacy bad, endless war GOOD

>But in reality, it is the US who rules the UN
kekekekekekekekekkekekekek
You need to stop thinking in states and start thinking in actors. Further consider who runs the US - hint: it is not the US

>first level
>pacify the terrorists
>the leader starts rambling about muh illuminati like a crazy conspiracy theorist.
It felt so fucking retarded

>>the leader starts rambling about muh illuminati like a crazy conspiracy theorist.
But the illuminati isn't even mentioned until halfway through the game and even then they are technically your allies.

>first level
>start getting exposed to the game
>start getting exposed to the lore and to the beliefs of each faction
>doesn't understand what the dude is talking about yet

how comes, amirite?

I'm aware of what you are saying but I'm posting in tiers so as to keep the frame of the conversation on a workable level. The specifics can be described in greater detail as the conversation advances.

>it's either global government or military adventurism forever
I can't hate you partisan faggots more if I try

You were exactly what UNATCO was hoping for. Wew lad.

>They came through today, bunch of the NSF boys, set up a perimeter in the shanty town and took some folks hostage down in the station. One of them told me it was necessary, that the government made it necessary -- "we're slaves if we don't," I remember her saying, and I asked her if she thought those people down in the station felt any more free for being strapped to a bunch of dynamite. She just looked at me, walked away.

Even the game preemptively btfo'd you, moron

>>The wealthy have always been the ones to profit from one-world government.
Question, wouldn't one-world government be detrimental to the wealthy because they can't have their tax havens and shit?

>it's okay for America to kill people en masse because they are fighting [flavour of the month controlled opposition/proxy group here]
Brainlet.

No he doesn’t. Hardly anyone knows they exist. The guy simply explains to you what he and the NSF are fighting against, which is empowerment of oligarchs

The easiest way to dissuade the oppressed from standing against the corporate/banking elite is shower them with degeneracy and threats of privacy violations. Notice how every single "blue collar socialist" is a faggot or tranny who hasn't worked physical labor a day in their life. No actual working class wants to align themselves with people like that, which is why we're forced to have a two party system.

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You're thinking of the wrong kind of wealthy.
Tax haven losers are middle class.

Two wrongs don't make a right, retard, Both sides are at fault.

obsessed and delusional

The truly wealthy almost always have friends in high places. Connections mean a lot, especially when you can also abuse loopholes.

>Notice how every single "blue collar socialist" is a faggot or tranny who hasn't worked physical labor a day in their life.
Yep, all we have now is the gay disco ever since the left abandoned the labor movement in favor of dionysian nihilism.

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Untrue. You expect too much of people. People are already being showered with degeneracy and privacy violations.
What you consider trad is already quite degenerate. Privacy? There's 90% chance that you're posting of hardware with mandated exploits and on software with mandated backdoors - and so is everyone else on the planet. Where is you uprising? Where is your grand union?
People go where the food is unless something changes so drastically they cannot ignore it. Even if they cannot ignore it they're not necessarily prone to action either.

Alright I see, thanks for the explanation. So that statement would still hold true then.

Both sides are at fault and both sides are faultless.
It simply depends on whether you find action or inaction more damnable

I'd say the NSF were always explicitly right-wing in inspiration, but yeah anti-WTO sentiment was very left-wing in the 90s.

>I'd say the NSF were always explicitly right-wing in inspiration
Yeah but they literally call Cops "facists" so I wouldn't say they are explicitly right-wing.

Funny isn't it?

I mean, aren't there unique branches of both left and right wing ideology that consider global rule bullshit and bad? You could call it a truly bi-partisan stance in the left//right divide, even if it doesn't turn out that way in mainstream discourse.

>implying "No Step on Snek" right-libertarians like fascists

>What you consider trad is already quite degenerate. Privacy? There's 90% chance that you're posting of hardware with mandated exploits and on software with mandated backdoors - and so is everyone else on the planet. Where is you uprising? Where is your grand union?
I'm not suggesting any uprising. I'm stating how it is. We're all victims of the same thing, the inherent lack of privacy that came with the industrial revolution. We all use money in a society, so is money an inherently good thing by nature?

Libertarians and constitutionalists hate fascism. This is why two party discourse is always fucking retarded.

Yeah and I think Deus Ex overall portrays that pretty well. Take the motives of Paul, Lebedev, Tong, Gold, post-UNATCO Carter, etc and they all come from different areas ideologically against the common enemy of dominating world power.