People waited 11 years for this piece of shit

It certainly is complete, I just want more than that. But Vergil has always been the SE character, and costumes are costumes. Legacy weapons wouldn't hurt too, now that the game technically supports adding any amount of them without having to redesign controls.

Well, Balrog announcer with the actual voice actor is somehow a fan mod and not DLC or anything.
Pretty fucking weird.

>It's another V mission

I’m quite surprised that with the extent of modding currently going on, I haven’t seen anyone attempt to inject animations into the game. I mean we’ve seen trimmed animations but that’s it, I wonder if there’s something about the animation notify/data format (for encoding hitboxes and next attacks and stuff) that’s really well-obscured.

>this place... healing my body...

Playable Vergil mod demonstrates that there’s at least some understanding of how to tweak move properties, given that Vergil was given inputs for Summoned Swords and then their damage values were adjusted and they were given a DT consumption. If nothing else, those devs have figured out pieces of the animation format that nobody is using.

It’d be cool to see fan-made weapons inserted into the game though.

>it's coop mod allowing to pick any character in any mission
Whole game as V give me that shit

>Whole game as V
GO
PIN EM TO THE WALL
PIN EM TO THE WALL
PIERCE THROUGH EM
PIN EM TO THE WALL
>I’M COMIN’, V!
PIERCE THROUGH EM
RRRREAP WHAT YOU SOW
>SO HIGH MAINTENANCE
PIN EM TO THE WALL

I wish finisher chaining at least didn't have a fucking RG tier window, I just can't do it consistently at all.
I actually kinda like that one because if you get Shadow first, it's the only time his gameplay isn't a clusterfuck. Until it is.

I recently S-ranked that on HAH and found that the most hilariously successful strategy is to get Nightmare first, then just read books

DM cucks?
dee-em-ceeucks?

I NEED YOU
FUCK YEAH
ENJOY THE TASTE OF DESPAIR

Saviour
Bloodstain
Hellfire
Shadow

SAVIOR
BLOodst...
>singin’ in the rain starts playing
>SUPER SEXY SEXY

and still waiting 21 years for based Kamiya to return

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Your daily (you), hipsterino.

Why is it that even though V has the easiest dance taunt to pull off bar none, he still gets the shortest song with the fastest style gain?

Dante’s takes like 30% longer and you always do it facing the corner with Round Trips spinning behind you and/or Man In The Red active. V’s is an actual piece of gameplay, trying to send Griffon and Shadow at the right targets to stagger and draw aggro while using Griffon’s callback shock to knock away anything that wanders into melee range.

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Yeah it's disappointing, but so is your thread.

You waited your whole life for this and it’s nothing but useless shit

It could've been a lot better, but it's still pretty great.

At least there's only 4 required V missions and 2 of them are short.

And none of Dante’s missions are just V’s missions backwards

Is this game worth $20?

hell yeah

Yes, they did. What's worse, it's exactly what they wanted. If the game had been anything else they would've been fuckin' pissed. The game is basically what 4 was meant to be and should've been. Rather than a new game it's 4+. People are so cemented to the DMC4 formula that anything that varied from being that, but better, and it would've been DmC all over again. Ever since 3 the series has stopped being revolutionary and before evolutionary. It will never try anything new or bold again. THere will never be another DMC1 or 3.

The game isn't bad but it's not great. It's safe. Everything about it is safe. The plot, the gameplay, the enemy design, the BGM, the background design. There is nothing exiting about this game except the fact that it exists.

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well said.

I also feel like dmc5 was played safe to see if it could still sell in a modern market. hoping they're going to take 6, if it gets made, into a different direction.

>Rather than a new game it's 4+.
Okay, but you say this like every Platinum title isn’t Bayonetta+, and every Miyazaki title isn’t Dark Souls+.

These games have hit on formulas that work, there’s not really any sense in throwing everything out and starting over again just for the sake of being different. Creativity is fine and all but the reality is for every God Hand you get 10 Dad of Wars.

Absolutely.

>Okay, but you say this like every Platinum title isn’t Bayonetta+, and every Miyazaki title isn’t Dark Souls+.
That's a fair comparison except that none of the P+ games have the exact same combos or the exact same moves, like the exact same input to dodge. Even B2 changed up their returning combos to make it so the player has to learn an entire new list of combos. Yes, she has a whole lot of returning moves, like (her) stinger, transformations and so on, but playing 1 and 2 is not like playing an expansion after a few patches.

I can't deny that Souls games all play the same and even that most P+ games have a formula but that's why it's the ones that diverge from it that are the most loved. W101, MGR, Vanquish. These are their other loved titles while Trsfrms:D and the lot are not so much. Those are the ones they made to pay the bills.

Sekiro isn't Dark Souls+

>It will never try anything new or bold again. THere will never be another DMC1 or 3.
DMC1 was an RE spin-off.
DMC3 had a new director who wanted to make up for the disaster that was DMC2.
There they struck gold, people liked it, no reason to deviate from that much.

Also, you're full of shit. Yes, the gameplay feels very familiar to any fan of the series, but the sheer amount of entirely new and actually fun shit to play around with makes the step up significant and very noticeable. But oh no, stinger is still stinger, boring game, nothing exciting.
Now how about you remember that V is a playable character that exists and tell me what the fuck was "safe" about that.

for instance they could add wallrunning or more interactivity with the environment, the difference between gameplay and cutscenes is night and day), also they could get rid of the healing items and gold orbs bullshit

Except everyone loves TFD which is the most like Bayo, while hating Korra and TMNT, which are far less like Bayo. TW101 is beloved, but Mad World has a small cult following at best (ditto Anarchy Reigns)

>none of the P+ games have the exact same combos or the exact same moves
Kek Bayonetta 2 literally has 2 weapons taken from Bayo 1. Same inputs, same models, same animations for every combo. DMC5 does more to change DSD from Rebellion than Bayo 2 does to change LIB from SF, too.
>like the exact same input to dodge
You mean RT? Because that’s the input in both Bayos, Nier Automata, TW101, TMNT... and it’s only slightly moved to RB for Transformers.

Sekiro plays more like Dark Souls than 5Nero plays like 4Dante.

There are no healing items in 5. They actually DID get rid of them from the previous games. Unless you count Sweet Surrender I guess.

>Sekiro plays more like Dark Souls than 5Nero plays like 4Dante.
that wasn't really the point

also Sekiro is way more divorced from Dark souls than 5Nero is from 4Nero

I was fine with V's missions, outside of when I was trying to S rank some on HaH, I don't think the game had any frustrating missions really.

Yeah but my point is the core logics and gameplay experience are very similar. Really 90% of what truly sets Sekiro apart is being able to jump. Which is not to say it’s a bad game, just to say that if you’re gonna call 5 nothing more than a glorified expansion pack for 4, you would have to say basically the same of Sekiro for DaS.

My thing is, why does a DMC game have to be revolutionary? Just let it be DMC. If Itsuno wants to break the formula, just make a new game. I loved Dragon’s Dogma to death but I’d have been pissed if he had released that with “DMC4” on the goddamn box.

Nah they're about the same quality imo, same scores as well on Opencritic :)

I love DMC1 and DMC3 but you faggots are insufferable.

This game is nothing like 4. If it was actually 4+/finished 4 I would've liked it. They went out of their way to make the gameplay even easier when 4 was already easy enough. They didn't need to tweak the gameplay and just add more content instead. Nobody asked for uber realistic, uncanny graphics and animations.

Yeah, and it turned out to be one of the best action games ever made. Still playing it to this day and I don't regret my purchase.

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>It's safe. Everything about it is safe.
I like DMC5 a lot, but I agree with this. So much of the game is outstanding, but it's also oddly timid. It coasts on its legacy and is basically just a Greatest Hits compilation for people to clap at, like a Fleetwood Mac concert. The reaction to the game has been like watching a 60 year old lady on her fifth Bud Light cheering at the first bars of "Rhiannon."

>well...guess it's time to play V....
>SAVIOR, BLOODSTAIN, HELLFIRE, SHADOW
>BARBECUE TIME
>MAY NOT MY FLESH FAIL ON ME
>Nowhere to RUN
>[autistic air violin]
Yep, it's still pretty fun.

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>you knew this pos was the incomplete edition and still bought it
Director already stated multiple times not to get your hopes up because there will never be a Special Edition and that it will be an entirely new game when they make another. But that doesn't stop people from dreaming

You are being well passed overly picky making you argument childish, specially when you say shit like kek. YOu started with a good argument but deteriorated to stretches in logic, bad nitpicking and poorly thought out 'gatcha' points. For example
You mean RT? Because that’s the input in both Bayos, Nier Automata, TW101, TMNT
Or the triangle button to do an attack. And so many dozens of other games not made by P+. In fact, nowadays, DMC is the weird one for having a 3 input dodge.

We're not talking about button placement, though that is part of it. Nero has the exact same moves for the RQ in 2 of the 2 games he's in. Dante has had the same moves for his swords for the last 16 years. Their moves might've been reanimated but they are the same moves. Just moving their moves to other inputs doesn't change the fact that prp. shrdr. is still prp. shrdr.

>Kek Bayonetta 2 literally has 2 weapons taken from Bayo 1. Same inputs, same models, same animations for every combo
Yeah, as unlockables. Extra content, not primary one. This is a shit argument and you lost all credibility trying to pass it as a legitimate point of argument to pretend it's the same situation as DMC.

>Sekiro plays more like Dark Souls than 5Nero plays like 4Dante
And not as much as 4Nero like 5 Nero.

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>Director already stated
It's on Capcom. And it will happen, sooner or later.
4 got an SE after 7 fucking years, even with Lady and Trish shoehorned into it for some reason. They know people really want playable Vergil in 5, and we'll fucking get it, but right now Itsuno is working on another new game, and that comes first.

>also they could get rid of the healing items and gold orbs bullshit
there are no healing items and GORBS are harmless since no one worth their salt would ever use one outside of hell and hell

It was great.
Much better than 4

>We're not talking about button placement, though that is part of it. Nero has the exact same moves for the RQ in 2 of the 2 games he's in. Dante has had the same moves for his swords for the last 16 years
when you havea basic moveset that works perfectly there is no reason to start from scratch and risk creating something inferior to the original version, nero is meant to be a training wheels character with the same basic button combos to help acclimate people to dante before they pick him up and have to worry about the insanity that is style switching.
and the only static weapon dante has is rebellion the rest of his arsenal has either been upgraded (KCB) or straight up overhauled like balrog which is drastically different from all the other gauntlet weapons weve seen so far in the series.

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Yeah I agree that they could've at least given them new animations for sword attacks. In fact it's the very same animations from 3 down to the joint movement, just with slightly tweaked easing times. For how much they kept talking about animation, it's kinda disappointing to see the exact same movements after 10 years since the last game.

kek

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