Surely no one can disagree with this

is that a bionicle?

The Betrayer was talked about in Doom 2016 and the lore things kept talking about the sentinels in this game.

In Doom 2 wasn't he just a big fucking demon?

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what's with that goofy gears of war alien face?
jesus christ

>Soul: Something that stands still and spawns in demons and provides no challenge
>Souless: A gaint ass demon titan that spawns in other high threat demons as well as try to punch, smash, burn, vaporize, or rain meteors down on you as well as being incredibly difficult to kill.
Get your head checked user, its called improvement.

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more like darksiders and blizzard
this is how most fantasy and demonic designs were made recently

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Yeah because a target on a wall is really interesting

Only level I ever used cheats to win. Icon of Sin is total bullshit.

Literally just a wall texture that only spawns demons vs. a giant ass demon with a multitude of attacks.

Does "soul" just mean "I have nostalgia for shitty thing I grew up with?"

Surely no one can disagree with this.

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>not making soulless a game with a greater art style

He looks a lot better once you blast the armor off.

>colorful, stylish unique aesthetic
vs
>generic brown muddy realism aesthetic
what did he mean by this

the soul vs soulless threads are always retarded

good job op

It looked fine in 2016, what the fuck happened?

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Isn't the actual lore for this thing that it's the gateway that is shitting out all of the demons? Why did they turn it into some goofy biomechanical small monster?

it's the only time in the game (ultra-violence) that i was given the "sentinel armor" option after a few deaths (I didn't use it). It just felt like an enhanced arena battle, which is what it was essentially, and was more than fair and doable. It gave so many damn crucible uses that you would be a fool not to spam them on every heavy you find rather than shoot them.

Good question, that one looks metal as fuck.

The one we got looks less intimidating than any of the random enemies.

Lore now is it's some guy's son turned into a demon and they spruced it up with alien tech. That's it.

Second Icon of Sin is a gigantic time bomb than can supposedly create a black hole so big it could cover the whole universe if left unchecked on Earth for too long
First Icon of Sin is just a fart now in term of scale

Literally no one liked the Icon of Sin from Doom 2

No one
Not one person

It's just wearing armor for some reason. Boss fight has you blowing the armor off piece by piece, and then blowing his flesh off piece by piece. Pic related is after "destroying" his face.

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that is the makyr armor
his face is literally identical to doom 2 when he has no armor
are you guys shitposting?

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Except for that is exactly how he looks in his second phase during the boss battle.

>turn final boss into a fucking picture because you're fucking lazy
>niggras still sucking your dick over it 30 some odd fucking years later

Pathetic.

Dunno about you guys but I love when final bosses are hugeass fucking monsters

>incredibly difficult to kill

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You retard.

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Was gonna mention this. Looks fine.
Though Doom 2016's still looks better.

holy up is hell like some mix of robots gone wrong or something?

Why is it that most hell enemies have tech?

The issue with OG Icon of Sin is that he's reused too much across the OG Doom II level packs. I don't mind the redesign.

seeing the icon of sin lazily walking around and punching buildings like it didn't give a fuck was funny and had plenty of soul to me user.

>Finally being able to give one of the strongest demons the form it deserves, after 20+ years

Sounds like soul to me.

>I can't make constructive criticism for shit
>SOUL

did you guys know the longer the icon of sin is on earth the stronger he becomes?

That would be an interesting mechanic where the longer you take to do in the final level, the stronger its healthbar is.

>In Doom 2 wasn't he just a big fucking demon?
No, he was John Romero.

what the fuck where they thinking

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because hell in doom are aliens and they use tech stolen+tech applied to them

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>Thing i like left
>Thing i dont like on the right.
You agree right Yas Forums ?? did i finally have a opinion that fits the hivemind or should i change my opinion after you guys disagree with my super thoughtful post on this taiwanese fishing forum??
Pathetic.

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REDESIGN BAD
INNOVATION BAD

NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO DO ANYTHING BUT SUCKING THEIR OWN DICK FOR ETERNITY WHEN IT COMES TO DESIGN

harder than
>shoot three rockets and it dies

Yeah, the chainsaw is quite useful if you can't manage worth shit.

Did you overdose on your söylent?

We all know they added the on demand health and ammo candies is to fullfillment the dopamine receptors of zoomers so they keep playing.

What about this version?
youtube.com/watch?v=HiJ21n9_mN0

post a playthrough without using the chainsaw

>tfw I beat Eternal's IoS on the first try on UV without using extra lives
>Yas Forums kept telling me that he was totally unfair and bulletspongey

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The one on the left looks like a genuine artpiece of retro design
The one on the right looks like a discount Magic the Gathering card

>NOOOO DON'T MAKE ME THINK ABOUT USING THE TOOLS THE GAME GIVES ME LET ME RUN AWAY FROM THE FIGHT TO LOOK FOR MEDKITS!!!!!!!!

>Does "soul" just mean "I have nostalgia for shitty thing I grew up with?"
Wasn't it always treated like that?

OLD GOOD
NEW BAD
BOOK GOOD
PHONE BAD

>>NOOOO DON'T MAKE ME THINK ABOUT USING THE TOOLS THE GAME GIVES ME LET SPAWN HEALTH AND AMMO ANYTIME I WANT LIKE REGENERATIVE HEALTH WOULD.
FTFY

It can be challenging at first but it's not ''incredibly difficult'' especially with all the powerups they throw at your face.

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>retards still don't understand that glory kills giving health encourages you to stay in a fight
>they think running into the middle of a fight to kill something is the same as running off to regenerate health

>he runs out of health during a fight
GIt gud unironically, glory kills are a crutch for console shitters that need pseudo regenerative health

its still a harder finally boss than shooting three rockets at a wall