Why don't more games feature the gladius? Is it too overpowered?
>b-but my nipponese steel!!
The japanese that existed during the republic and imperial periods were so far behind the Romans in terms of technology and military organization they would have thought they were magic wielding demons. The Japanese had sparse amounts of shitty iron and even if they had futuristic folded steel meme katanas they would have been no match for the Roman sword and board. The katana is a sidearm that is not appropriate for real combat. I suspect Imperial Rome could easily conquer modern day Japan.
Why don't more games feature the gladius? Is it too overpowered?
Ryder Perez
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Samuel Wright
Useless without a shield. It's too short.
Benjamin Harris
Henry Brooks
ironically, one of the best tactical rpgs of all time is named after that weapon, and features everything you could hope for if you like that sword
Nathaniel Lee
How many action games are there about the Roman Empire? I can't even name one.
Austin Brown
Weren't gladius' made out of fucking bronze? im pretty sure thats why they turn up so much because they dont rust
Blake Garcia
for honor has a gladius character who has some of the fastest heavy attacks in the game
sadly thats where the characters usefulness ends
Brandon Edwards
Shadow of Rome.
John Hughes
Bronze oxidizes. The copper atoms don't disappear when they're alloyed.
Dominic Young
Because it’s boring
Jayden Gutierrez
Anyone who didn't do the tournament to get the Minotaur gladiator fucked up majorly.
Jordan Young
Here, it may not be meta, but it is easily one of the most enjoyable characters to play
>INCRIDIIIIBILIS
>ETIAM
Its so good just THUMPING a cunt in the face and rocking people with combos only to hear the distinctive voice lines.
Thomas Davis
it oxidizes but at a much slower rate than copper, yeah? Due in part to Tin and Copper bonding with one another chemically, that is
Gavin Green
>However, due to poor sales, particularly in North America, executive producer Keiji Inafune decided to scrap the franchise, and Shadow of Rome 2 ultimately became Dead Rising
Well now, I did not know that
Kayden Evans
HO HO
Michael Taylor
Why are you faggots like this? Your thread could have just been the first sentence, but you had to add a little tirade full of false information that you parrot from other faggots. Why are you so obsessed?
David Torres
It oxidizes at roughly the same rate as pure copper. The difference between iron and copper oxidation is that copper oxidation typically remains on the surface. New oxygen atoms can't penetrate the seal the oxidation makes, which is why you can clean the patina off of copper and bronze items and what was underneath will be mostly intact. Iron oxidation expands and this creates tiny crevices for more oxygen atoms to penetrate and oxidize further.
Nicholas Williams
In Rune back in the day, the Roman Sword was my main. Perfect for lopping heads off.
Joseph Bennett
R E W O R K W H E N
Cooper Bailey
Wrong.
youtu.be
Caleb Bennett
Haven't you heard? Never.
Easton Roberts
I adore him, have him at rep 9 and everything but
>uncancelable zone
>no way to catch dodges
>slowest bash in the game that only assures light
>latest feint
>range was halved from release on his charged attacks
he is p dang bad, you gotta get lucky or parry lights to even get normal amounts of damage
Nolan Ross
I have yet to see a game where you could use a Dacian Falx
Bentley Green
You try to win a battle with 18 inches of metal and no shield. I dare you.
Nolan Powell
It only works if used with the scutum, on Its own It's just a large knife
Jace Hill
False, the blades can parry, but it was avoided because repairs were expensive as steel was expensive.
And the only reason it was folded over so much, was to get more out of the pure steel.
That's why i hate anime when they parry, because Japanese that wielded katana avoided parrying as much as they could.
And they didn't go for slashes to the stomach, they would poke and try to cut off your extremities (fingers, ears, etc).
Now you say but but my german longsword can parry!
Yes because european swords are only made sharp at the top 1/4 portion of the blade. The middle is dulled on purpose, to give a zone for parrying. The lower portion of a european blade is made thicker for balance and rigidity.
Since europe had a surplus of steel, getting a sword fixed was a few coins, and swords were cheap.
But the real cop out of them all is nobody used swords in war, spears were the meta weapon unless you had a 7 ft Zweihander which you had to be 6'4 to use.
Jaxon Lopez
This is a really weird amount of cope, considering nobody ever compares the gladius and katana. They have completely different purposes.
Cooper Campbell
You don't have to parry lights though, Cent sits next to Aramusha as the only characters in the game capable of getting confirmed heavies when parrying everything.
Benjamin Scott
Correct me if I'm wrong but the gladius is basically stab and kill or miss/hit a shield.
Japanese katanas are longer and can be used to block so there is more action with it. Plus japs make sword games so of course theyll do katanas.
Americans make gun games and europeons make soccer or eurojank mount and blade tier trash
Zachary Thompson
Well youre just in luck. Mount and Blade Bannerlord has them and has units specialized with them. Also has gladius now that I remember.
Tyler Reyes
>But the real cop out of them all is nobody used swords in war, spears were the meta weapon unless you had a 7 ft Zweihander which you had to be 6'4 to use.
Should have stopped just before you posted that
Evan Torres
Europeans made Witcher 3, which shits all over your favorite game.
Tyler Cox
>They have completely different purposes.
True, the gladius is for fighting. The katana is for killing peasants.
Hudson Morris
>But the real cop out of them all is nobody used swords in war
The romans used swords pretty much exclusively for MOST of their existence.
Connor Morgan
>made Witcher 3 which is shit
ftfy
Brayden Bennett
Because this didn't exist yet.
Blake Carter
Nope because Landschnekts used Flammards, Flamberges, Zweihanders, Messers, and Grosse Messers
And lets not forget that Polish soldiers were using Sabre's since the 13th century
John Baker
>Correct me if I'm wrong but the gladius is basically stab and kill or miss/hit a shield.
You lead with the shield then stab with the sword. The scutum/gladius is a combo. You aren't dancing around with a sword like an idiot in a real fight.
Kevin Barnes
No, I was referencing the fact that the gladius is intended to be used with the scutum, and was useful for fighting in tight formations. The katana was used in more open fighting although it was still primarily a sidearm to the spear. There are plenty of kenjutsu styles specializing in armored combat, but keep spamming your memes. Again, the usage is not really comparable.
Wyatt Jackson
>eurojank mount and blade tier trash
seething
Carson Evans
Calling a spade a spade, Fernando
Ayden Roberts
user the use of zweihanders is debated because they are just so impractical in warfare, the simple fact that they are a weapon that needs alot of room to swing in order to do anything meant you were more likely to hit your allies with each attack more than you were to hit the enemy, the belief is that they may have been more of a symbol, something that soildiers carried to show off, like
>"look at the size of mine"
>"yea? Well, look at the size of MINE! Look at hte craftsmans detail, look at how I got the blade to look like a sick ass flame and shit. Fuck that peasant shit"
>this is emblematic of the landsknecht attitude of wearing their wealth and carrying it with them, their clothes were even adopted not out of any specific use but because it was the only luxury item they could afford to carry on themselves
and dont say that shit about breaking pike formations and chopping the heads of spears, that is purely speculation, and in practice faces the same issue as before, you are swinging a huge sword around beside a wall of your own allies, you are going to hit your allies more often than the actual enemy. Pike battles werent fought like this, people went under the pikes to stab people in the dick and shit, not break the pikes with a big sword and then face them with a broken stick.
Ian Moore
The Romans had heavy cavalry. Are you dumb?
Aiden Clark
yep it's based of the spartan Xiphos.
Deep enough to get into the heard, has a handstop and double edged.
It's short enough to never break.
Literally the glock of the ancient world.
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This is a good video.
Adam Baker
A sword and board is still superior in open combat, except MAYBE versus a spear and shield, but you really think a nip spearmen could take a triarii? Fat chance.
Isaiah Martin
Why are you moving the goalposts now? All I've been saying is that it was really stupid to start your thread with a giant pile of cope when the swords in question are so different. And the range difference would make the gladius and scutum vs. katana more even than you would think. If it was a shield and arming sword together that would be a different story. Nobody is talking about the quality of spearmen.
Nathaniel Hill
you do realize that a ton of the Romans armor and weapons are derived from Celtic design right? like the segmented helmet, and the Gladius. they even gave most of the stuff borrowwords from the regions or the celtic languages.
Jack Ross
>The Romans had heavy cavalry
lol no they didn't. I know for a fact caesar used barbarians to fill his cavalry needs.
And cavalry was shit back then. They had no stirrups so they couldn't just smash into infantry like the french with their knights.
Ayden Rodriguez
Gladius is generally believed to be a Celtic loan in Latin (perhaps via an Etruscan intermediary), derived from ancient Celtic *kladi(b)os or *kladimos "sword"
Camden Martin
>I suspect Imperial Rome could easily conquer modern day Japan.
Yeah, but you're a retard, so why does any of this matter?
Josiah Carter
Romans adopted cavalry and especially chariots more widely after encountering how good the Celts were with these on the battlefield. this is why in later times they use other "barbarians" like germanics as mercenary cavalry too.
Logan Hill
Ahem.
Spears.
Hudson Bailey
>modern day Japan
You're fucking dumb if you actually think this.
Owen Wood
Does scutum have anything to do with scrotum? Considering how gladius means dick, and you pair the dick with the scrotum, y'know I'm sayin'?
Brody Bennett
>Nothing personal roman
Carson Flores
What the fuck is that?
Jacob Gomez
Mount and blade has Spathas, essentially gladiuses but larger. As well as two handed versions since it has an almost modern medieval times roman empire in civil war, torn into three pieces.
Kayden James
>being this dumb
The roman weaponry was designed for their specific strategies and tactics. They wouldn't even be half as good if they didn't rely on said strats and tactics.
It's effectively just a sword you can unsheathe easily, that's it.
John Johnson
Romaboos, not even once.
Jordan Phillips
Cool, thanks
Josiah Perez
that's a nice spear you got there ;)
Blake Roberts
>A literal fantasy movie about the supposed Roman legions that survived the battle of Carrhae and were brought to the western border of China.
Great source you got there about how the Gladius were used when they got all the roman armors wrong
Chase Ward
It was so good, bros.
Why did I get filtered in the 2nd area and never finish?
William Kelly
>I suspect Imperial Rome could easily conquer modern day Japan.
has it occurred to you that modern day Japan army uses GUNS?
Jack Lee
>yep it's based of the spartan Xiphos.
Completely wrong.Sorry but wrong.
The xiphos is a Greek sword based of bronze age leaf bladed weapons from the Celtic world.The gladius is an Hispanic weapon based on earlier Urnfield bronze swords in the region.
They are largely unrelated.Roman republic era soldiers used xiphos and it was only after its introduction by hispanic mecinaries during the punic wars that the Gladius began to be adopted.The greek world would continue to use xiphos variants.
The gladius is not a short sword compared to its peers.Its shorter than what we expect(expectations of medieval arming swords) but it was by no means much short than its peers.Both republican and 3rd century Gladii are substantially long for blades of the time.Swords of antiquity tend to be shorter on average than latter medieval and migration swords.
John Hughes
What a shame that Centurion is so bad in the game, he's so fun to play as but everyone can shit on him easily
Jonathan Carter
>brings up the katana out of nowhere