Your thoughts on the IKO spoilers so far?
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Ethan Russell
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Lucas Smith
I love the Godzilla alt arts. But overall the cards shown so far seem too weak for current standards power level
Ryan Foster
o boy going to make a deck around that bastard
Adam Sanchez
the red PW is gonna be banned in modern, mark my words
standard is shit so idc about that, but having a set whose theme is WAAAAH BIG CREATURES GO ROOOOOAAAAH is really pandering to the lowest common denominator, especially in a format with limited removal options
and the mutate mechanic is shit
oh and the mythic rare card with flying counters that don't work, that's hilarious
Chase Gray
I'm salty that WotC stole a mechanic from a custom set I made, and had shown to noone.
I called it "Mount" though and it only allowed you to mount certain creature types.
Ian Jenkins
>oh and the mythic rare card with flying counters that don't work, that's hilarious
Instead it just infinite combos with any creature that can sac itself and doesn't have flying
Isaac Cox
Haven't seen much, is there any big powerful card? I'm using this reanimator deck and I want some big guys to cheat in.
Logan Rodriguez
>oh and the mythic rare card with flying counters that don't work, that's hilarious
What?
Isaac Adams
I heckling love it!
I am trans btw.
Jayden White
They're obviously just going to change the base rules to make these counters give flying because one of their planeswalkers gives Vigilance, Reach, and Trample counters that are similarly not defined to do anything
Jordan Mitchell
I don't see anything wrong with that effect, why wouldn't it work?
Juan Edwards
The counter isn't defined to do anything.
Tyler Murphy
I can't see any way that card needs to be changed? The flying counters give flying. That seems self-explanatory
Or is your argument that since the card does not literally state the counter's function it's a misprint and they'll need ti amend the rules to fix it? Because that's dumb if so.
Justin Mitchell
>The flying counters give flying
Currently, they don't
Wizards would have to change the rules of the game to make flying counters grant Flying
Jaxson Cook
They will, plus also the might remove the need for a judge to check people's lists because lolcompanionlol.
Cameron Young
I haven't played Magic in a decade or so. Is it just me or these new cards are all hilariously overpowered?
Luis Long
Yes, and? That's not funny it's just a new mechanic that the rules will naturally be updated to codify.
Chase Gutierrez
I think I don't want to spend hundreds of dollars a year so I won't look at them
Noah Turner
Nah, you're just unironically fucking dogshit.
Like hilariously bad.
Christopher Martin
Why do they want to make the whole "give ability counter" instead of just giving the normal stuff? Is it just so you can remove those counters?
James Fisher
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>a creature with a flying counter has the flying keyword
wow what an upheveal
Easton Reed
It's not just you WotC has deliberately pushed up the power level of new sets and talked about doing so.
They've also moved towards making creatures in particular better.
Jason Morgan
They aren't
Levi Long
This seems like retarded power creep. I don't know shit about current standard, so what's the consensus on it?
Levi Taylor
Yes. There are multiple cards in this set that have effects or abilities that move counters around.
Gabriel Baker
It's so instants and sorceries can grant permanent abilities.
Jose Adams
Ethan Miller
You can play Arena for free.
It's so they can have cards that mpve counters around and to make it easier to track the board state due to the sheer amount of shit granting abilities permanently without being an equipment/aura/etc.
Brandon Russell
Really, really aren't.
Ayden Roberts
>Creature + plus 7Mana or 5 mana plus another creature with mutate for it's effect
Lmao this card is dogshit my dude.
Luke Hill
>I don't know shit about current standard, so what's the consensus on it?
There is no consensus yet but from what I've seen the main question is if reanimator decks are worth playing with the current self-mill options in Black and other reanimation cards available, not if that card is good.
If the shell isn't there to let you dump threats in your grave and reanimate them in other ways it's going to be worthless.
Jonathan Wright
As a casual player, I might have put an extra mana on that. I'm and I will be definitely adding this to my reanimator deck and get into the battlefield every single bomb in the deck
John Nguyen
How bad is standard? Is it worth getting into? I'm an EDHfag.
Jayden Hill
lol just play Fluctuator
Mason Barnes
Drakuseth is the go-to reanimation target in standard alomgside Agent of Treachery currently.
Ikoria may change that. Anything big with haste and a relevant etb or evasion would be huge for reanimator.
Andrew Hall
I'd say to only play standard if you love shit, but you play EDH so you're already on a strict sewage diet.
Mason Walker
I miss Dominaria, bros.
Cameron Sullivan
>Currently, they don't
magic.wizards.com
>Ikoria introduces keyword counters. Just as a +1/+1 counter gives the creature it's on +1/+1, these keyword counters give the permanent they're on the listed ability.
Liam Hughes
Standard's state right now depends on what you like to play as and against. Ramp has replaced midrange, Sultai Control is more popular than UW, there's a playable T1 combo deck, Aggro is Red focused only, and every deck cheats on mana in some way besides Rakdos Aggro. Oh and Tempo is dead too.
James Roberts
How is that good?
Christopher Ward
>yfw the next set introduces banding counters
Jason Reyes
>that thing
>haste
Xavier Rivera
Based department? Someone's calling!
Dominic Carter
Yeah, I already use that Drakuseth. Not the Agent though, might as well just play Drakuseth. I just added this big guy as well, the lack of evasion is noticeable, but he's definitely a great defender and puts out a lot of pressure.
Mason Gray
Wanting to come back but I skipped Theros, how fucked am I trying to build up a good deck?
Nathaniel Barnes
The power level for the game has constantly gone up to stupid levels. Base creatures having like 5 fucking abilities is a key example.
Adam Roberts
>Heals you
>Wins the game in 2 different ways
>Ramps you
>Cuckolds lackey
>Relevant tribe
>Over stated 1 drop for G or B
>Works as grave hate
No idea.
Ryan Flores
What's your favourite meme that you're dying to see in MTG?
Nathan Sanchez
Hard to say till Ikoria drops but honestly a fair few T1 decks don't play a lot of Theros cards right now. Hell Temur Adventures literally plays none besides three-four wishboard cards
Kayden Rodriguez
the power of creatures has gone up*
non-creatures are way weaker than back in the day
Blake Lee
It generates more value than most planeswalkers, costs 1 mana and some cards that were going to the graveyard anyway, walls anything with 1 power, and completely shuts down graveyard based decks for free
That card alone basically killed 3 or 4 decks
Asher Butler
>1 mana
>2 toughness
>3 abilities 2 of which hardcounter archetypes
Eli Hernandez
I can't way to see people mutating this guy to give him every possible ability in the game.
Jonathan Lewis
>non-creatures are way weaker than back in the day
Yes, as they should be. The game giving 5 different goddamn abilities on a card is a problem.
>Muh removal was too strong!!!!
It was always a problem. Blue needed to be balanced, not every goddamn creature getting hexproof or haste or flying or some other dumb shit that doesn't even fit the card.
Carson Cook
fuck forgot the pic
Henry Ramirez
>Blue needed to be balanced
Blue never had removal, the issue is that draw card=good, card quality=good.
But only 1 color get card quality filter and cheap-ish card draw is relegated to it too and maybe another one.
Thomas King
based
Gavin Wood
You forgot
>1 fucking attack so he can kill shit he chumps to add insult to injury.
Hudson King
>Blue never had removal
Enter Tempo decks that just bounced opponents threats and made them constantly replay their previous turns instead of advance their board state
Hunter Collins
Fairly underwhelming. I like the artists they got to do the Godzilla stuff. Too bad it really, really does not belong in MtG.
Blake Evans
Academy is such good shit, standardbabbies of today have no idea what real power is
Ayden Bailey
we'll never get the halcyon days of Urza's block again.
Kevin Hall
god seeing decks laid out makes me want to play paper again.
just want to stack the shit up and shuffle