>SE releases the FF7R demo which shows it being faithful to the 1997 original >Advertise it as a remake of the original >Millions of fans expecting a remake of the original >It ends up being a sequel to the original with herpaderp time travel, time ghosties, two different Sephiroth's and a completely different Cloud personality from the original
>Catfishing thousands of nostalgiafags into buying a $60 20 hour game >It's not even stroking their nostalgia boner and pisses on their childhood And they say videogames can't be art, this is a clear example of performance art.
Christian Ortiz
Sad to see we will never get a 1:1 remake of the og game Fuck nomura
Dylan Sanchez
Anyone disappointed in this deserves it
Joseph Walker
>$60 20 hour game Of all of part 1's issues this isn't one of them
Oliver Turner
The writing was on the wall once Nomura was attached as director. Dude can't direct his way out of a wet paper bag.
Colton Campbell
All the fujoshi and otaku pandering turned me off big time. The goofy charming spirit of the original is gone. Nomura, Kitase and Nojima are cancerous shit stains on Final Fantasy.
in the gamefacc boards people are super mad about this
Brayden Perry
Someone please provide a SECOND screenshot of the description of Whisper Rubrum. One that's a different screenshot/crop from Let me explain why: >It's the clearest evidence of TIME TRAVEL since it directly says "future timeline" >Unlike Time Ghosts which can be waved away by DESTINY or something, this screenshot can single handedly BTFO any defending who still say there isn't TIME TRAVEL because it specifically says "timeline" >Everywhere this has been referenced, it's been the exact same screenshot >The text of that description has not been seen in any text dump of the game, as far as I've found >The description of the Whisper Harbinger, on the other hand, HAS been found in the text dump, which makes the former's absence even more suspicious >All we need is a second screenshot, or a video to prove that it's real
Before we all go popping champagne about the trainwreck that is this """remake""", let's make we don't get bamboozled and compiled into some "SHIT Yas Forums ACTUALLY BELIEVED" collage.
Cameron Lopez
I know that this'll still sell ridiculously well, and I was kinda looking forward to it until I found out what it really was, but I'm still looking forward to the backlash once old fans realize that SE lied to them in order to get them to buy it.
Ian Cox
Forgot to add the image: this is the Whisper Harbinger description that is real.
Oh are they? I checked a couple days ago and just saw shills trying to play it off as "those Yas Forums trolls" just being mad because of who the final boss is.
Just sit back and wait, the game's only five days away.
Aiden Hernandez
How is it not?
Leo Thomas
Will you kill yourself when it turns out to be real?
Ryan Nelson
No I'd celebrate.
Gabriel Mitchell
>Made a joke about it becoming Eva Rebuild >It actually is Eva Rebuild in video game form I can already tell saving Aerith is going to cause some retarded shit to happen in FF7R2.
It's extended Midgar, and 20 hours is like five times the length of Midgar in the original. This remake is shit but the length isn't an issue
Brody Wright
Why didn't SE take hints from the Resident Evil remakes? They follow the originals, added new shit that didn't ruin them and had better graphics
This time travel shit is just terrible
Oliver Johnson
Sir, Cid is being cordial to Shera, what do we do?
Isaiah Gutierrez
>Why didn't SE take hints from the Resident Evil remakes? SE isn't making this remake because they want to modernise FFVII, they're doing it because they want to cash in on the FF7 brand
Chase Green
I've been wondering, why am I okay with Eva Rebuild being TIME LOOP but not FF7R? (Aside from that fact that Rebuild3 was shit)
What's the point of holding back on the release any longer when they already fucked it up by over a week?
Jackson Lee
You have to visit the Gold Saucer or you can't get out of Corel Prison. Of course, they could completely eliminate that whole section and pretend Marlene is just Barret's biological child.
Mason Barnes
i mean...half of this assessment is fair, but the part about cloud is plain nonsense. he has this "psycho emo" personality until at least halfway into the game. this is basically how he was during midgar.
Christopher King
SE is doing better financally now than ever before.
Carter Johnson
I agree with everything but how is Cloud completely different? they nailed him
Wyatt Nelson
>implying that's not why RE2make and RE3make were made. 3 especially.
Eva's strength was fucking with the audience and the original episodes had no need for a remake. It also trolled people hard and made them angry on purpose. Also the recurrence of events was a plot point. FF7 was loved for its excellent pacing and presentation, and Nomura/Toriyama/Nojima honestly think adding time travel and raising stakes will make it better somehow.
Jack Smith
>I've been wondering, why am I okay with Eva Rebuild being TIME LOOP but not FF7R? Because you have autism?
I think anyone who says 20 hours is a bad deal is insane but each to their own I guess
Zachary Cruz
XIV is actually doing very well in spite of anemic support.
Eli Carter
ffxiv isn't even that good, its a very by the numbers story that comes out in $60 installments and yet it manages to tell coherent stories from start to finish. regardless of your opinion of their quality (and that quality is inconsistent at best).
how is it that one gen x nip is able to figure out how storytelling works and promotes scenario writers that can tell a story from start to finish within an allotted time frame and yet LITERALLY THE REST OF THE SQUARE ENIX can't figure this out? what the fuck is going on? how is this possible?
James Brooks
>>implying that's not why RE2make and RE3make were made. >3 especially. 3 was partially developed alongside 2. I think they both had the same amount of development time
Jackson Harris
Pretty much. The remake wants to connect with Dirge of Cerberus with the Deep Underground scene, ghosted. The remake wants to connect with Crisis Core with Hojo recalling his memories, ghosted.
Justin Ward
> XIV >Dying It's doing better than ever.
Aiden Rogers
Was a recurrence of events a plot point? I could be forgetting stuff. Only thing I can remember is the second/third impacts.
I guess EoE already buttblasted everyone and prepped them for the worst, so time loops didn't seem so far out of left field.
>added new shit that didn't ruin them and had better graphics RE 3 would like to have a word with you.
Justin Carter
he can, it'll just take him 15 years, require 12 bags of different varieties, and he'll come out covered in his own shit. but he'll get the job done
Ayden Young
>$60 for 20 hours >bad Okay poorfag
Brayden Ward
Why didn't the time ghosts attack Tifa when she put on her sports bra and thigh socks?
Chase Gray
>implying you want to spend more time in a nomura fever dream
Connor Barnes
The guy commentating is insufferable, “wow that looks sick”, what is he 12?
Tyler Ortiz
I would have been happy with a 95:05 remake like we were promised
Matthew Young
I just meant that that guy's desperate for proof when everyone will get all the proof they want in less than a week, so there's no need to be so desperate about it.
Elijah Morris
Sephiroth falls in love with Cloud.
Unable to confess, he is gifted by a deus ex machina (Jenova) with the Ex-SOLDIER's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls him, and is overjoyed to find out that he has a crush on him as well.
But, the next day, when Sephiroth recounts the previous day's confessions to Cloud, he only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the Cloud he called is not the same Cloud he fell in love with. In fact, he doesn't exist in this universe at all. He is Cloud's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the Sephiroth's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of his crush.
Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of LOVE.
yeah I saw that too. it's funny to see the shills there get btfo
Blake Adams
>XIV >Doing well
Just about everyone I know is bored with it. The predictable endgame and gear raiding is mundane and pretty much all my friends unsub after each patch. Limsa is a ghoost town 2 months after a patch
Yeah there's no way that isn't proof that this is post meteor sephiroth. i mean...just look at it. this is a 1.1 recreation of meteorfall. Sephiroth shouldn't even know about meteor at this point in the story, so this version of sephiroth definitely time traveled.
Chase Russell
>Only thing I can remember is the second/third impacts. That's what I'm talking about. The story was very heavily pivoted at people repeating mistakes and the end being inevitable, with the brief glimmer of hope in Shinji and Asuka in EoE.
Nathan Phillips
>As I was saying, dropping the Sector 7 plate would cause irreparable financial damage, set our infrastructure projects back a decade plus, not to mention the immense cost of life. >President Shinra, phone call on Line 1 >One moment gentlemen, I'll handle this
but user, how can you think paying $60 for a game isn't a ripoff if you aren't getting at least 1500 hours out of it?
Colton Russell
Zack is baffling to me since shouldn't it be spoiling the charactesr about plot events in the future? Cloud doesn't remember this guy or these events at all but Aerithsu should remember her ex-boyfriend and shouldn't she be horrified to see him being gunned down?
They could maybe spin it as they are both in SOLDIER and escaped I guess?
Of course Limsa is a ghost town. That's like a main city from 3 expansions ago. Head to eulmore and you'll see that the game is quite populated and doing well.
James Taylor
Was rebuild initially advertised otherwise? IIRC it wasn't until the red-colored sea that people started putting the pieces together. Again, not defending FF7, fully onboard for this hilarious trainwreck.
Brandon Collins
of course they do, they showed the FF crew and radiant garden in the KH3 DLC trailers and they literally only appear in a cutscene for 2 minutes, and the playable part of radiant garden is a single minuscle room where you can't even attack
Hey dudes, im playan the Remake right now. Facing off against Hellhouse in Corneo Cup. Had to restart to have coresponding elemental magics for its gimmick. I hope you guys get to play sooner or later
I can already tell the reactions of the fandrones >It's just the small vocal minority with free time, people love the game!
Jacob Stewart
Post stream. Use a password a shill wouldn't guess
Colton Garcia
It makes sense. If all the plot twists revolve around you expecting it be the same, then you can’t just admit it’s a sequel
Leo Phillips
>>It ends up being a sequel to the original with herpaderp time travel, time ghosties, two different Sephiroth's and a completely different Cloud personality from the original is this actually true or is it just shitposting?
Carson Ward
>wah I want less for my money
cucked
Jack Price
I kinda like the idea but it's incredibly shitty that they suckered people in by pretending it actually was a remake. I sort of understand why they did it, to give people who already played the game a new twist on the story and the ones who didn't play the original a sort of mix between a recap and a new story, but it's still shitty. I can practically see Nomura in his office thinking >Okay, FF7 Remake. Sounds boring to do the same thing again. How about I trick people into thinking it's a normal remake but actually the Remake title is talking about the plot remaking itself. Nomura, you crazy bastard, you've done it again.
Zachary Sullivan
Everyone is mad. Wait for the 10th to see the true shitstorm.
Logan Wilson
Is the Honey Bee Inn an outright whore-house or just a sex show business? We never see the "honey bees" paired with people to imply they're outright prostitutes.
It looks more like a Love Hotel from Japan with some provokative sex shows. No evidence of direct prostitution.
William Price
Guarantee you this is all his fault and "Future" Sephiroth is actually him fucking around in the past.
Gabriel Lewis
>Watchers of Fate: Noooo! You can't change the story, fuck you! It needs to be EXACTLY the same as the original one. I think you might be onto something.
>>wah I want less for my money How did you manage to extract that from my post?
Carter Perez
They want the players to recognize this shit. They don't care what the characters think, they can just look confused and then react however the plot needs them to go.
Justin Clark
It's Jenova you retard.
Adrian Edwards
>he disagrees with me / insulted me, must be a shill Woah... so this is the power of room temperature IQ...
Juan Richardson
thats not time travel, thats VR publicity shinra does
Sebastian Garcia
>is this actually true or is it just shitposting?
TIME GHOSTS RETCON REVNANTS FATE PHANTOMS
John Harris
> It also trolled people hard and made them angry on purpose.
You are so fucking stupid if you actually believe this.
Jack Lewis
I don't think Cloud has much of a different personality to original puppet Cloud. Original Cloud got bursts of sudden murderous urges too. The rest is all true.
William Baker
Please look forward to the 10th. Also make sure to preorder for exclusive DLC
Luke Allen
>tries to pull an MGS2 >ends up making Advent Children 2.0
Jack Nelson
>$60 for 1/4 of a game >acceptable You do you, consumerwhore
Henry Bailey
But that's the thing this should like blow all the cast's minds and completely change the story-line from out here. Cloud should be going "but who was that guy I don't remember him".
These are just changes for the sake of changes and it ruins the universe and characters.
Joseph Lopez
Well they did always imply that Post-AC Cloud was set-up to have to deal with Genesis eventually. My guess is that in the next games, we'll actually get original Post-AC Cloud appearing, just like how we're getting original Post-AC Sephiroth here after Cloud beat him again.
Luke Reed
Not to mention they managed to sell sephiroth as even more threatening because not only is he wiser from his defeats, he still has the ability to summon meteor whenever he pleases. He even basks in the nostalgia during the boss fight with cloud by saying "Ah the memories!" and shit. Sephiroth is literally taking our remake and enjoying it for himself. It's fucking sinister!
Evan Butler
Just check the comments on that video. It's not from the remake.