Alternate Universe Edition
FF7 REMAKE THREAD
What is this shit
I don't remember this in the original ffvii
SOUL SOULLESS
FUCK
Cloud is gonna die at the end of the 3rd and Final Part of the Remake
OH NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOO™
>Cloud can't sleep
>Goes outside of town to kill some monsters
>He sees some shadowy figures speeding towards him
Place your bets, he is about to be assaulted by:
>Changebad Ghosts
>Time Ghosts
>Nomura Ghosts
>Editor Ghosts
>MYSTERY NIGGAS
>Time Jannies
>They Do It For Free Spirits
>Final Jannies
>Divergence Deleters
>But You Must Boogeymen
>Quicksave Spirits
>Time "Plot twists? More like I'm pissed!" Ghosts
>Savescum Spooks
>Authority Apparitions
>Canon Cocos
>Fixing Fantasmas
>Reparation Apparitions
>Righting Wraiths
>Timecop Ghosts
>"Don't change anything" Demons
>"Back to what it was" Banshees
>Reversion Revenants
>Retcon Revenants
>Strict Script Spooks
Is this a Mandela effect?
That would retcon Advent Children.
>still can't play the game
Being a burger is suffering
Seriously, my hype for this completely died. It's a shame that the multitudes have shitty taste and will gobble up this new garbage plot, and SE won't get the financial punishment they deserved
Anyone that disagrees is a retarded zoomer or a shill.
WHYYYYYY NOMURRRAAAAAA
Yeah which Retcons Sephiroth going back to ruin the timeline meaning nothing is canon.
daily reminder
Say its a remake
its an alternate reality instead
Are any of the new tracks actually good? So far every one I've heard is soulless trash that 16 year olds 30 years could write better.
NOOOOO YOU CANT JUST CHANGE THE PAST! NOT THE HECKIN CANONARINO!
"Everyone who disagrees with me is wrong"
- man who is always wrong
>people still pushing the narrative that people are mad that it's not 1:1
>When no one wanted it 1:1
>The time ghosts just keep fixing any interesting changes that could've been choices or consequences of previous choices
>It's also used as an easy way to have less content, such as not having to rewrite various things if you chose to actually kill Reno, or if Barret stayed dead
Someone took the time to make this.
How and from when is Sephiroth coming from? It would have to be from during the events of FF7 itself or the very brief period he showed up in Advent Children.
Am I the only fag who ship Cloud and Sephiroth?
>>people still pushing the narrative that people are mad that it's not 1:1
thats the only "criticism" ive seen for this game. In fact I literally havent seen a single post out of the thousands of whiny doomposts having anything to do with the quality of the new things, just pointing out the new things and im supposed to believe that those are all negatives because its not what was in the original game
Yes, literally nobody else on the planet has ever done that before.
Congratulations, you special snowflake.
It gave me a laugh, so it's time well spent.
imagine that, someone took 5 minutes to make OC instead of repeating the exact same tired 5 word autist doomposts over and over
ah yes, I do remember when Cloud sliced bus sized debris like butter back in disc 1
T I M E C O P
REMAKE
Now post your actual face.
>You know, I'm going about this the wrong way. Just because I was rejected from this art school doesn't mean I'll never make it in
>In fact, I'm going to set up my canvas and get back to work right no-
>Is that a ghost wearing a funny little hat?
How many chapters does it have? I'm currently in chapter 3 and it's okay so far but it's not giving me any freedom yet to farm for example
NOOOO MY SEPHIROTH COMES FROM THE FUTUREEEEE!! NOT MY TIME TRAVELINOOOO!!
Dude who honestly cares? It's final Fantasy 7, just buy it and have fun.
They really went over the top in this one.
>your point was made with silly wording and an ugly picture
>you now looks silly compared to the picture and sentence structure representing my view, so i win.
Not saying you're right or wrong, but maybe actually bring in some points of discussion you cancerous double nigger
With the ghosts it's Nomura trying to use them as a metaphor for fans of the original, acting as if they wouldn't condone any changes at all, when given what people have pointed out before, some changes would've been nice if they actually stuck to the whole FATE IS CHANGED OH NO thing instead of using the ghosts to IMMEDIATELY fix anything different, instead of say, having the outcome of various things be different based on previous choices.
Best example is Hojo about to tell Cloud who he is earlier, and the ghosts just come in and drag him elsewhere so he can't. What was the fucking point? Oh no, Barret died because SEph showed up and stabbed him. Just kidding, the ghosts bring him back!
Like jesus christ, either let us change things or don't, there's no inbetween.
Also, they way the handled the ending was pretty bad to most people as well, given it's KH-tier
I really hope his career takes a hit from this. What an asshole thing to do. He knows that fans have been dreaming about this remake for 20 years and he still can't help but ruin the story with his autistic fanfiction shit.
All that is to build up to the final ghost boss fight you retard.
sorry, I don't pay for movies anymore
Has the concept of time travel ever been done right in any form of media? Everything seems like an ass pull when you can just turn back time and change events.
>actually bring in some points of discussion
You know where we are right?
It's retarded and so are you.
>In one timeline Cloud survives
>In the other one Zack that survives
What this means?
Steins gate
>do u rike it?
Damn, they went full Dragon Ball Z
Doraemon
>Guys, I'm starting to think this bait-and-switch idol thing might be a bad idea. Why don't we just give the fans a proper crossover, and turn this idol idea into its own, unique franchi-
>What the fuck is that? Is that a ghost?
That's clearly a fight straight from Bleach.
Gargoyles didn't do it too badly.
I cancelled my preorder. I literally have never been this excited for a new game in my life.
Alright man that's cool. As for me i'll be playing it day 1 for sure being that I'm a loyal Final Fantasy fan.
Ironically Square did 25 years ago.
you forgot the part where this "obstruction" gets eliminated at the end of this game and basically enables the following games to diverge, though most likely there will also be a "classic" route where you mostly follow the OG timeline.
nice to see you haven't hanged yourself yet
NOO MY TIME TRAVELING SEPHIROTHHHH!!!!
The only time travel done right is when it's a timeline branch change for every choice, as to never invalidating previous events.
acting retarded ironically still makes you look retarded
Primer is great on the "hard" sci-fi scale,
Back to the Future is fine on the "soft" sci-fi scale. Time travel can work when the story centers around it, but almost never works when used as an aspect of another story.
lmao
I liked when shit takes full advantage of time travel. Not some bullshit like "oh no we can't alter the past", I want my protagonist to become a billionaire who saved his parents or lost love or whatever.
And that's something everyone is cautiously optimistic for, we just highly doubt it will given it's fucking Nomura.
>pineapple on pizza
Based cat fucking over faggots with shit taste.
>JUST BUY NOMURAS FAN FIC SEQUEL YOU FUCKING PURIST BOOMER!!! TIME COP GHOSTS ARE COOL!!!
Not as retarded as the people taking the bait.
Did you want to know what those potential changes could have had? Too bad fuck you, changes are only Episode 2 and beyond, if we feel like it.
12 Monkeys
time travel is inherently a very lazy plot device to use. even more so when it is added in 20 years later
I really hope that the ghosts' death represents the death of "linear storyline" and that there will be multiple ways various arcs can be resolved, some of which would then also impact what kind of ending you get and who among your party dies or lives.
You could include literally anything in this game and people would still defend it.
What is the psychology behind this?
Might be just a legacy design? There's several mickey mouse designs too.
I'm a loyal final fantasy 7 fan. Which is not what this game is
All retards look equally retarded, shitposter-kun.
>Yeah, i cried watching every FF7R trailer, how could you tell?
I bet Jessie’s death would be more emotional than Aerith.
It's people that have never grown up and acknowledge that yes, things you like might not be liked by other people, and they're defending it to cope with the fact some people have problems with the game.
FF7R is going to be critically acclaimed by both the critics and the fans and no amount of pussy boy bitching on Yas Forums is going to stop that from happening.
>people are upset
>people are stupid
>that means if I choose to not be upset, I'm smart
>I love being smart!
>wow, he's so interesting
Shame that they put everything else about Midgar in the game like Wall Market, Shinra building, Aerith's house, the slums, etc. Makes it way too easy to defend the game. Imagine if they didn't put anything in, now that's a challenge.
cloud already saw aeriths death in a vision so it already won't be emotional
>thats the only "criticism" ive seen for this game
No. It isn't you lying shill. The problem isn't changes, the problem is making a convoluted plot line out of the fact that you are making changes in the first place. That's some real low IQ fanfic writing.
Nope, she gets gunned down like a nigger.
Interestingly, Biggs survives now and the ghosts aren't mad about that, which means Jessie died for nothing and they changed her death just so she wouldn't survive like Biggs. I wonder what Nomura's problem with Jessie is?
..was garbage.
lmao
Why didn't the Eurocuck or Ausfag shills who posted their 40+ hour game times leak the ending? It's like they knew the ending was shit and were trying to hide from us.
>those titties
By definition, he is willingly crossing genderlines.
Ghost Trick maybe?
God Advent Children was a mistake
WHO HERE READY
makes you wonder
>i-its u-uhh....w-well...HA ITS _CONVOLUTED_!!11
explain in detail how its "convoluted" and how thats "bad". Seems pretty simple to understand if a billion low IQ retards like you can easily dumb it down to one or two sentence shitposts
The only thing I've seen do it right is the third Harry Potter.
Which means Biggs didn't die in the original you retard. You cannot pick and choose what the ghosts did do and didn't do to your liking. Like time traveling Sephiroth, why didn't the ghosts kill him?
>brand loyalty
lmao
But people were also "convinced" that Nomura would fuck up Cloud's personality and make him his AC self, and Aerith her "innocence personified" KH self. So I am not any less doubtful about the doubts against Nomura/Kitase/Nojima as I am about those people themselves.
I perceive it differently. I feel some excitement about what the next game will bring since it's such a great question mark. Devs already said they plan to preserve "iconic scenes" so I am curious what the new stuff will be all about, though I do acknowledge that they could fuck it up. We'll see. I am curious what the day 1 patch will change though.
The world is literally under quarantine, people have a lot of free time under their hands.
The only respectable name in gaming. If he says FF7R is good then it's good, just like how when he says don't watch the trailer then we all didn't watch.
>Cloud has vision of the future now
So they turned him into a time displaced Shulk?
God, I'd pay any price to cum inside Jessie.
>I perceive it differently
That's because you're a dumb naive faggot.
Harry Potter is possibly the worst example of time travel imaginable.
>He thinks the critic's opinions have any fucking weight in anything but making things worse
>he thinks the actual fans of the games happily lap up whatever shit is thrown at them
The critics will praise this because it has an auto mode, the "fans" are just people that like all the AAA titles no matter what because video games are totally hip and cool again guys
you mean he saw some random materia clincking on the ground with no context?
time cop ghosts are plot devices used in children's cartoons because they have less developed brains and don't care about how logical the story is
>convoluted plot line
>real low IQ fanfic writing.
Buzzwords like these are just affirming the stuff the user you are responding to is saying.
The question was about correctness, not enjoyment.
Actually a lot of tracks are really good but since you seem like a bitchy ass faggot, maybe i shouldnt tell you
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What did he mean by this
That's litterally not how he typed you illiterate monkey.
Also:
>alternating timelines
>reviving characters
>time travel
>not convoluted
Do we have to point out every little thing to you, shill?
Why is this shit even happening? Is this a vision or what?
lmao at this cope.
But Biggs DID die in the original, that's why it's strange the ghosts aren't mad. And I get where you're coming from with Sephiroth, I pointed out a while back that it's fucking retarded they aren't trying to stop him in any way but they're fucking with the protags multiple times.
Why didn't anybody talk about Aerith's death vision afterwards? Why did they just talk about chasing Sephiroth like in the original game?
Convoluted does not mean complicated you esl nigger. It's just obtuse. And nobody asked for a meta plot about how the party needs to fight hooded ghosts that fix the time line because it's messed up by time travel. Pretty much the worst possible story they could tell. If you wanna change things just change them and don't wrap it up this cu cked, half-assed copout kingdom hearts tier meta narrative about jumping timelines and dimensions to save zack.
I'm sure these two are going to team up against the true enemy.
So, like now then
>resorts to personal attacks over saying a product isn't good
You consumer drones are such putrid beings.
Post yfw it's Genesis again just so Nomura can shill more Gakt.
>On second thought, Sora, Kairi, this raft idea is too dangerous. Let's just live out the final days of our childhoods on this idyllic island paradise together, enjoying each other's company and-
>why are there ghosts everywhere
how mad well you be when SE don't include Yuffie in the next part?
>everyone is aisan now
I don't like this
Looks like the people calling him British Cloud had the last laugh
>Hey, driver, are you sure this is the route? And why do you look like you're wearing a hood?
Ok is it still a fun game to play at least? Can I just ignore the whole meta plot and enjoy going around Midgar beating stuff up with Tifa?
>he thinks that there will be a next part
kek
He didn't die then because the ghosts will always do their job. Also don't forget that the ghosts prevented Jenova from shapeshifting into Sephiroth to kill the president
You mean the vision of a materia falling and nothing else right
quick rundown of all this future/alternate dimension thing?
>Cloud decides to take Aeris on the Ferris Wheel
>Time ghosts pull her off and drag Tifa out of bed to go instead
>samefagging and deflections instead of making a point
Well do explain how turning the remake into a meta commentary about how much it sucks that you aren't allowed to change things is better than actually saying "fuck it" and having enough balls to just change things without some cowardly bullshit explanation with low IQ fanfic writing backing it up.
>true enemy.
Sounds pretty logical to me, it was always a science fantasy cyberpunk story with a literal lifestream of the planet, cosmic aliens, magic, all kinds of reality warping powers and monsters and so on
Explain to everyone how all of it is "convoluted" instead of using the word over and over like a retarded child and expecting me to buy your fallacies. Once again it seems extremely simple and there is quite literally nothing "convoluted" about it. They added a layer to the story where sephiroth already has precognition of the events of the original timeline so he tries to prevent the same outcome from happening again. Either its a self fulfilling prophecy where the exact same events except expanded will play out with more grandiose cosmic and time elements intertwined to the progression or its an excuse to give you more new content or branching paths
This. Considering how much this costed to make and how Corona is fucking everyone and the economy, there won't be a next part.
>act like a faggot
>"hey dont call me a faggot"
Geee
They will have to fight Gackt and Omega Weiss at the same time because the only good thing about this timeline is that the cuck Vincent's game will be rectonned, and he will never get the spotlight. Now based Cloud Strife and Chad Sephiroth will get to mog all of Deepground.
>HEY GOLDSTEIN! WHY ARE YOU NOT AT WORK TODAY?
>S-sorry boss, this ghost is blocking my front door
>alternating timelines
yes
>reviving characters
???
>time travel
You already have alternate timelines which are parallel universes. It's not timetravel. Every timeline seems to have it's own "present time" which no one yet was shown to be able to move past. If you don't get that, you can only blame yourself for being a low-IQ brainlet
>not convoluted
To say whether or not it's convoluted you'd need to see how it affects future content. Sorry, but I have no reason to believe you "Cloud will have his emo AC personality/Aerith will have her innocent saint KH personality" suckers any more than I believe the dev team.
OH man. This is gonna happen, right?
Yuffie and Cid won't be in the game, just as Red won't be. Screencap this.
Don't respond to me consumer drone cancer.