Retcons 13 year old game in your path

>retcons 13 year old game in your path

Attached: qjbj6o8ZSjx8sDRwQ5TYLm.jpg (1920x1080, 686.72K)

Other urls found in this thread:

youtu.be/3lkd5cWG8X8
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

It's not a retcon retard, it's just a retroactive change to a previous plot point.

Why do you care about the semantics so much?
Unless you're in denial that Valve don't care anymore.

Why are you replying to obvious bait posts?

Pretty sure he's just a mindless consuumer

Nah it's bait, and not very good one at that, considering that he's literally saying that it is a retcon using different wording while insisting that it isn't. It's like saying a car is not a car but an rather an automobile.

I feel like one of the few people who didn't like the ending, what did you guys think about it?

it isn't a retcon, a retcon implies that the original event is no longer canon in the game, elis death IS canon in the game, in fact, it's the driving force behind the entire plot of HLA. only smoothbrains call this a retcon

it's practically a retcon, no matter how you look at it. they regretted killing off Eli and pulled this "nudge"

Except it's a retcon because we were told the original HL3 script and in none of it did alyx get kidnapped or eli revived.

Alright, half life alyx retconned an unreleased outline script of a game that does not exist. you're right.

Can you point to me where that's implied in the definition?

Attached: retcon.png (781x302, 45.47K)

I thought killing Eli was a cheap cliffhanger, yes, but using it as a way to control Alyx is completely within the realm of what the G-Man would do.

>Alyx was shown to be afraid of the dark in Episode 1 and in the VR game
>By the end of the VR game she's trapped in a completely black room

Attached: some deep shit man.png (650x432, 404.18K)

Interpretation implies a outside world perspective on the piece of media, the "retcon" is not from the outside world, it's new informattion added within the canon of the game, nothing was removed from any prior interpretation of the half life story, unless you're counting peoples imagined interpretations of what happens AFTER episode 2, which are obviously not canon because episode 3 never released.

The original interpretation of the half life story was eli dying, and alyx crying over him, we had no idea what happened immediately after that, so it cannot be retconned, you can't retcon what happens after episode 2 becuase we never had any content after episode 2's ending until right now, just because time reverse in universe, that doesnt mean any prior interpretation from a readers perspective was changed.


the closest similarity i can think of is from dragon ball: youtu.be/3lkd5cWG8X8

in this scenario, frieza destroys earth completely, but then the character whis rewinds time to give goku another chance at stopping him, no reasonable person would call whis reversing time "retconning earths destruction" because it all happens within the narrative, there is no room for a different interpretation, therefore, not a retcon.

You think time passes as normal inside of stasis?

Attached: 1567602019085.jpg (500x558, 33.13K)

FF7 "Remake"

>nothing was removed from any prior interpretation of the half life story
dude, Eli's death was literally removed

I think the better question is she was hired at 19, so if she shows back up in post-Episode 2 Half Life would she still be a teenager?

lol hey guys what if you got invested in the story because of the ending but then we changed the ending 13 years later

it's still
*it was a hologram*
tier writing.

>no reasonable person would call whis reversing time "retconning earths destruction" because it all happens within the narrative
Yeah, the narrative of one film, not 2 separate films, you dunce

not it fucking wasnt, elis death happens, everyone sees it, we have no idea what happens AFTER his death, if what you were saying was true, then HLA would not have happened because the ONLY reason gman was able to hire alyx was by USING eli's death, his death was nudged in universe, not out of universe.

"elis death was literally removed" is a complete lie, it's still in the game, it happens right before your fucking eyes, AFTER his death, time is reverse and he is saved, that does not remove it from prior events you mongoloid

so if they cut the episode there on a clifhanger and dont reverse time until the next episode it would be retconning the first episode?

Is Laidlaw seething?

>so if they cut the episode there on a clifhanger and dont reverse time until the next episode it would be retconning the first episode?
No because the following episode is part of the same season, not 2 different seasons separated by 13 years and different writers

>not it fucking wasnt
lmao yes it was
>elis death happens
and then it un-happens thanks to gman

So if half life alyx released in it's exact same state a year aftter episode 2 with literally nothing changed and laidlaw still writing, by your standards it then wouldnt be a retcon?

You only want Eli dead cause he's black

>a year
gonna have to stop ya there

Episode 1's intro retconned the ending of HL2 by pretending it didn't exist. HL:A doesn't retcon the ending of Episode 2 because it acknowledges it happens (as well as afterwards)

see

it's not really a retcon if the events still happened in the current canon, eli still died, time was just reversed shortly after, it's an asspull but not even remotely a "retcon"

this

>Episode 1's intro retconned the ending of HL2 by pretending it didn't exist.
how?

If it was released like that then it would've been a obvious design choice and just be a extremely cheap dramatic cliffhanger and I would've still shit on it. just a lot less than the obvious retcon we got.

HL:A retcon would be alright if it wasn't a retcon at all and if instead EP2 ended up with the post-credits scene from HL:A, and HL:A answered what the fuck happened.
Would Eli really have died or was it all Gman's deception? I was a big fan of Half-Life, but I'm not exactly in a place I want to discuss the story and lore anymore after playing HL:A.

>Episode 1's intro retconned the ending of HL2 by pretending it didn't exist.
Great, nobody cares though because the ending of HL2 was open ended

what is there to explain? the combine found where White Forest was after the rocket was launched and Eli died to a potato

>that feel when we still don't know what happened to Barney, all we know is him saying something at the end of Episode 2 was a mistake
I'm hurtin, Gordon.

Attached: Barney Calhoun.jpg (440x443, 33.96K)

>HL:B actually turns out to be Episode 3 and Barney is now Gordon's sidekick, not Alyx
Based?

>Would Eli really have died
what do you mean? you literally saw him die 13 years ago

It was alright.
It'll look better once HL3 comes out :^)

The hell are you talking about? Barney isn't in episode 2.

>When coming back into White Forest after the Strider battle, he can be heard saying "Good job, Gordon", but is not among the Rebels cheering in the garage. The subtitle appears with Barney's midnight green subtitle color, and uses the Episode One subtitle file, as it cannot be found in the Episode Two file. Marc Laidlaw stated that it was an accident.

Oh, I never noticed that.
He at least survived City 17 and escaped with the rest of the refugees.

What you don't like change? Nomura is a geni- oh wait, wrong thread.

You retards keep using the wrong term for everything and only encourage other retards to use the wrong term for everything.

It was a deus ex machina. An ass pull. They wrote themselves into a corner and bullshitted their way out of it.
It's not a retcon because they acknowledged Eli's death, make the entire game revolve around that plot point, then conclude it by alluding to consequences for your meddling with the timeline.

>They wrote themselves into a corner
How as it a corner? They could have taken it in any fucking direction they wanted.

What about the Borealis?

Attached: Chalmers.jpg (640x480, 39.81K)

Just because the retcon is acknowledged in the story. Doesn't make it any less of a retcon.

YES IT DOES THAT IS LITERALLY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A RETCON AND AN ASSPULL YOU FUCKING RETARD

>They wrote themselves into a corner and bullshitted their way out of it.
what the fuck are you talking about?

>They could have taken it in any fucking direction they wanted.
Well they clearly couldn't if they required making a convoluted and controversial decision of bringing a character back to life via time fuckery.
It probably had more to do with pandering to fans, though, but it was still a poor decision.

HL: Alyx, serves as a direct follow-up to Episode 2. You end the game as Gordon, presumably because the body you encompass (one posessed by G-man) experiences both Alyx's and Gordon's life. What happens after the ending of episode 2 is Gordon seeing what will happened through Alyx's eyes, then it happens.

HL: Alyx is in every practical sense HL2: Episode 3.

what a retarded theory

Fans of who? Eli Vance? How many of those are there?

>Well they clearly couldn't if they required making a convoluted and controversial decision of bringing a character back to life via time fuckery.
I think they wanted racial brownie points.

The lab boys just informed me that I should not have mentioned the control group. They're telling me I oughta stop making these pre-recorded messages. That gave me an idea: make more pre-recorded messages. I pay the bills here, I can talk about the control group all damn day.

Attached: Cave Johnson.jpg (385x570, 139.01K)

I was really sad about Russel not dying by the end of the game

I think it was more about building up the gman than anything else.

People that wanted Half Life Episode 3. 2 was left on a cliffhanger.
Valve wanted this game to be succesful so they didn't want to settle with just a prequel, they wanted closure for Episode 2 in some form.
Too much time has passed since 2 so the emotional impact of Eli's death wasn't there anymore and the only logical thing to follow it up with is the Borealis, but Valve probably didn't want to tackle that in VR since nobody knew if the VR exclusive would bomb or not.
By saving his life, they pretty much made Eli's death a hot topic again, gave closure, and all without needing to follow up the events with Borealis.

One of the developers said Episode 3 never happened because the scope kept reaching way beyond just something episodic