Game tries to make you feel bad for a character

>Game tries to make you feel bad for a character.
>A few moments later, game shits on the whole character of the guy it tried to make you feel bad for.
Has any other game done this?

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Metal Sonic in Sonic Heroes

I didn't feel bad for him. I didn't feel bad for anyone except maybe Papyrus. I hated every other character in this game.

Papyrus is a fucking gag character, you're literally supposed to laugh at his failures.
How can you feel bad for him?

Because he's the only character who isn't a completely irredeemable faggot.

>have pushover husband wrapped around your little finger
>run away instead of reeling him in when he makes a bad decision
>shit on him for being a pushover and cuck him with a fucking skeleton
>keep letting kids run off to their demise
>lock them out permanently the second they leave even if they change their mind (they're kids)
dumbfuck toriel is the worst character in the game right after the lizard bitch

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>the woman that tried to get you to "toughen up" by forcing you to kill her
>has the nerve to blame her husband for everything he did after she abandonded him to his grief

Why the FUCK you would feel bad for Metal Sonic in Heroes? I could understand if the whole reason for his transformation was to prove he was the real Sonic but it wasn't. Proving himself was just the added bonus. OVA Metal Sonic however is a character you can feel bad for.

They're both hypocrites. They deserve each other.

>retarded enough to sit there and get fucking murdered while still believing you aren’t insane.
I can’t see how the reddit crowd would love this guy but I felt nothing

That's fine. The thing is I didn't feel absolute hate towards him like I did for every other character.

Why do i need to spare this faggot to get the pacifist ending

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you don't
Just don't kill anything on the second playthrough and befriend everyone

Mainly the line “See myself as I am, no longer afraid of anything.” It’s sad that all his work in Heroes to prove himself and break away from Eggman was for nothing, and after that Eggman just enslaves him again and he never gets another chance. He was scared of being nothing more than just a robot, and now his nightmares came true.

>They deserve each other.
Absolutely not, Asgore needs someone that has the balls to stop him from doing dumb shit and that won't leave him.

>MC sacrifices literal life and limb to keep his daughter from getting gangraped for the rest of her life
>Lol fuck you old man
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I'm mad.

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Asgore needs to die in a ditch.

Fuck off Toriel, you shitty wife.

JUST

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Toriel deserves to waste away alone. They're both worthless.

Lets not forgot Joyful
>Buddy makes it her life goal to rule the world after almost getting diddled once meaning Brad was right
>Forces her big bro to help because she knows he can't say no
>Shits on Brad
>Gets Rando killed
>Shit talks Rando as he dies
>Destroys the world through her violence

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reminder that undyne killed every single fallen child and asgore never fought anyone before

>why do i need to let somebody live to get the ending where everybody lives
If you kill him nobody even gets mad at you. What's the problem?

For fucks sake MOOT

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the only character who cant kill you

If anything it makes Toriel look worse, she chastises him for not going out there and kill the humans but she herself doesn't want to kill them either.

Also they way she says it gives the impression that if it was for her she wold have killed some random people to destroy the barrier.

>Why do I need to spare the one who is central to the ending I want?

You're still punished for it.

reminder that you're wrong

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Nope, he killed the little shits.

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what?
there is a line afyer you get past undyne or maybe when you figght her, i dont remember you get told you are the first to make it this far
and we know asgore doesnt exactly go near toriel

First to go uncaptured, they're brought to Asgore and killed.

Fact is Asgore did nothing wrong.
Everybody loves to take shots at those in charge without ever stepping up to make the difficult decisions themselves
Asgore acted as a leader should. His priority was his people.
And he has a bitching theme.

bullshit
i take game cannon over what 7 year meme guy has to say on witter

>without ever stepping up to make the difficult decisions themselves
Asgore could've absorbed one human soul, crossed the barrier and kill six other humans then return and release the barrier. He's a coward who lacked the resolve necessary to free his people and instead spent his time hoping nobody would fall into the underground so he wouldn't have to kill them.

The creator determines what's cannon, not you're retarded fanfiction.

The joke is that Toriel is actually even worse than him
The fact that most people didn't realize that is pretty amusing

he can add it o the next game when its released then
until then asgore didn do nuffin and dumbledore isnt gay

No, Asgore did the worst possible thing

>say he's going to wipe out humanity
>he only needs one soul to get out of the underground and kill six more people in the woods to become God
>he gets the one soul needed
>decides to sit around and hope no more souls come his way because he hasn't got the balls to say he doesn't want to kill anyone after all
>souls keep throwing themselves at him
>he continues to let his people think he's going to give them their freedom, yep, any day now

>Asgore could've absorbed one human soul.
It would betray him and he would die, play the game slower next time.

Nice projection retard.

Which is a good thing. He gives his people hope without actually having to genocide humans. Best case scenario.
The worst you could charge him with is lying.

>Frisk is the seventh soul
>he's willing and able to kill Frisk
>he's still not going to exteriminate humanity like he promised he would
What happens when hope turns out to be a complete sham

>King lies to his people for years, possibly decades
So what you're saying is he did something wrong? Glad to hear you came to your senses faggot.

What would you do? Kill all humans? Just tell his people to give up and they die of despair?
It's not perfect but its better than the alternatives.

I hope deltarune expands the lore of the other 6 souls, shit their stories and if they killed some monsters or not would be cool

Every ruler lies.

How about not have an autistic temper tantrum and decide against promising your people you'll genocide the human race?

>say you'll do something
>decide you're not going to do it
>do you
>string people along for god knows how long then let them all down and make matters even worse
>let them down as soon as you can so they can get over it and move on

Tough call

No they don't but nice attempt at a flimsy justification for his shitty actions.

Honestly speaking the whole war declaration was probably his biggest fuckup in life, assuming he's not also behind the monster-human war

>Playing this fast.
Asgore thinks that the humans are unbeatable regardless of how many souls they have, that why he ordered Alphys to find another way to open the barrier.
Also, everyone knows about how Asriel died, if the monster were THAT desperate to get out of the underground they could just go to Asgore and absorb a soul themselfs.

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Well you have to go through an entire neutral Asgore fight with ending before you get to this part so I think it’s much longer than a few moments

Cope

That's why he wants seven souls so he can become omnipotent

That's why humanity sealed them away in the first place because they can become ridiculously powerful with their souls

> every other character is irredeemable and I hate them
Is it just like five samefags pushing this opinion or is there a genuine upswing in retards who think
> I WANT SOCIETAL APPROVAL
is a valid exonerating circumstance and
> I DON'T WANT TO BE ALONE / YOU FUCKERS HAVE KILLED MY FRIENDS BEFORE / MY CREATOR IS USING US AS TOOLS / ETC
aren't?

Sans is a Lightener who can’t go home to the Darkners you heard it here first folks

You feel bad for him because he's a good man put in an impossible position. You feel more strongly for him when you see just how much pressure he was under the whole time.

Asgore is the best character in UT and the most likable Lightside person in DR outside of Susie.

Papyrus is the only one who's sinless. The rest deserve to rot in jail cells for life.

>No they don't
Not defending Asgore but lol at you being a fucking dipshit if you actually believe that.

>That's why he wants seven souls .
1. He doesn't want to.
2. What part of "regardless of how many souls they have" you didn't understand.
>he can become omnipotent.
The monster knows that 7 human souls are enough to destroy the barrier and that they are really powerfull, but nothing in the game suggest that they know it makes them omnipotent.

This is possibly the most American post ever made.

Joyful's story was ass but the entire point of Buddy is that she is always somewhere ambivalent and enraged at her place in life, in conjunction with the fact that she was a hypersheltered kid with no education in a horrible mad max world it makes sense that she's not the most emotionally stable or rational decision maker

> attacks you just like literally everyone else
> intends to bring you to people who will EXECUTE YOU and take your fucking SOUL
> you escape because he doesn't understand the dimensions of a human
Once again, no. Papyrus would only be more redeemable than the rest of the cast if he had better exonerating circumstances than theirs, and he doesn't.

I don't know why you guys are trying to talk about a game made my a self-hating retard like it's suppose to make sense. He likely wants you to hate Brad because he's a fucking white male and that's what the creator hates.

Papyrus is only guilty of ignorance. He didn't really understand what was going on or that you would be executed. Maybe ignorance is a sin, but it doesn't irritate me as much as the rest. More than anything, though, he's the least hypocritical of the lot. That alone makes him easier for me to stomach. The rest I wish I'd killed.

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>Is it just like five samefags pushing this opinion Nah, that's always been really common when talking about Undertale. It's best to just ignore them because they almost always turn out to be hypocrites.

>no they dont
Stop believing in fairytales