IM SO. FUCKING. TIRED. OF. INPUT LAG
EVERYTHING IS LAGGED THE FUCK UP THESE DAYS
>Your shitty TV
>Your shitty bluetooth controllers
>Your shitty console's digital output
FUCK
JUST GIVE ME A HARD WIRED ANALOG INPUT FOR EVERYTHING TO MINIMIZE LAG YOU FUCKING FAGGOT ZOOMER DEVS
FUCK THESE SHITTY LAGGY BLUETOOTH CONTROLLERS
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>Vsync
>30fps
>HDR
>meme animations
?
Bluetooth is faster than USB for the most part.
>console
There's your problem.
Dude, there is an option in your PS4 settings to make it wired when it's plugged in.
It literally won't use bluetooth if you turn that setting on and plug it in.
Faggot?
It's even slower when wired due to USB polling rate
>implying it isn't just as bad on PC if you want to play on the TV
In fact it's worse because bluetooth drivers in windows are complete trash.
ok
first off thats absolutely fucking false
second
ALL NON-INTERUPT INPUTS ARE POZZED
ANY BUS THAT HAS TO WAIT ITS TURN TO SEND AN INPUT IS FUCKING LAGGY
PCs are literally the worst in terms of lag.
Your shitty OS compositing all over the fucking window destroys any meme "lag free" screen you have. Along with the point I made above.
Unless you're using a PS/2 peripheral and displaying on a CRT over VGA with an OS that has a minimal lag kernel you can fuck right off.
Even then your userspace probably fucks that all up.
DS4 wireless is faster than most USB poling rates. I'm not sure what you're doing. As for TVs, that's your own retarded fault. Finally, for the d/o, it's like a frame slower, which you want notice anyways.
PS4 is fine.
>muh TV
Turn off all these retarded extra settings
you can plug the PS4 controller and use the cable instead of bluetooth to reduce lag
Based.
The faggots on Yas Forums won't accept this fact, but playing on hardware that has analog input and output will always be superior.
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>JUST GIVE ME A HARD WIRED ANALOG INPUT FOR EVERYTHING TO MINIMIZE LAG YOU FUCKING FAGGOT ZOOMER DEVS
what
analog wouldn't make things any snappier since it'd have to go through an ADC for the console to even interpret it
Polling rates on modern USB contollers are insanely high. Your USB controller is probably being polled more frequently than a controller of old could trigger interrupts and have them processed.
>USB
>Reduced lag
Do you faggots know ANYTHING about the toys that you own?
"PC games have higher input latency than console games!"
>POZZED
ok retard
HDR is actually good when done right though
based retard
>probably being polled more frequently than a controller of old could trigger interrupts and have them processed
that's literally fucking impossible
>there's a wire but it's absolute shit
So you don't want your controller wired then?
"usb has higher input latency than bluetooth"
Wasn't this only available for slim? Controller has to be a newer model that comes with slim, too
Imagine the cute boi wearing this outfit
Haha no.
Dualshock 4 battery life is the worst out of all game consoles in the past 20 years.
Just account for the input lag when playing lol
DS4 over usb has 4ms lag, and 1ms over bluetooth.
This has been measured by several people.
Wrong
It's true.
DS4 bt is rated at like 12ms-ish while plenty of off-the-shelf USB boards pole at 50ms+. Even PS/2 can go over 12ms.
Yeah but HDR "done right" often means FALD displays and FALD processing adds more input lag.
they have less latency then there wired version idiot
Congratulations on noticing it.
Everyone who thinks the pos4 input delay is fine will also be fine with stadias shitty streaming.
>Wireless DS4 takes a fat shit on wired Gaben.
Sony always wins.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE MILLISECONDERINOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
These measurements were made on a PC.
I turn off local dimming on LCDs. On an OLED though, HDR is a huge addition.
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No. I have this setting on my first model lol
Yeah absolutely
Not a problem on PC heh
okay dsp
if you play games on a tv that doesn't have a game mode then you're just a retard
Yes. Sony is so good, their hardware dominates on every platform, even non-native ones.
Never noticed the input delay. It would be a 9/10 controller were it not for the touch pad.
What kind of TV doesn't have a game mode these days? Even the shitty $180 set from Walmart I got for my workshop has one.
This is one of the features for the XSX i'm actually most excited for, and nobody seems to fucking care.
They've completely reworked the input stack so you have 2ms lag on wireless controllers, USB is instant (Probably 1ms) which is a measurable improvement over last gen's 8ms, and Auto Low Latency mode has been upgraded so it will, if your TV supports it
>Automatically set your TV to game mode with no processing
>Turn on VRR modes
>Output 120hz to reduce input lag
>Decoupled frame buffering from input latency, Triple Buffering no longer increases input lag in theory
This kind of small shit is all over the XSX, I hope PS5 is making similar improvements.
Even with game mode you can still have huge amounts of input lag
on 4k TV's it can go over 20 ms, fucking hilarious.
This. It's especially true for the DS4 due to the way it polls over USB vs. Bluetooth. The DS4 is actually one of the least laggy controllers in recent history, only beaten by specialized controllers made for fighting games. What's laggy is the shitty AAA movie games that OP is playing on his laggy 4K UHD TV with tons of image processing layered on top of the video signal.
wired does not mean analog
that's fine for console games
I mean, unless you're trying to play something competitive on a console other than a fighting game, in which case you're a retard anyways
>sonyfags
>knowing anything about vidya
It's fine for any games that aren't fighting frankly.
All consoles after 5th gen are pozzed with this digital I/O garbage.
the ps5 is not even going to come out at the rate it's going
Huh, technically faster than even consoles with wired controllers. Maybe more fair to say potentially faster.
fucking kill yourself
retard console opinion placed directly in the trash
I have literally never had an issue with that? Are you playing a shit game like Red Dead 2?
Analog I/Os can only handle a certain amount of inputs in a parse and start dropping them like crazy. Pick your poison I guess.
ok I will do that as soon as you have a point to make
well microsoft have new tech in their xbox and in their future firmware update to their controllers claiming it will significantly reduce input response time so there's that to look forward to. they use some proprietary wifi tech tho so you might have to get a dongle from MS if you're playing on pc.
what the fuck does this even mean? All controllers use digital I/O because video games are digital.
>buy PS4 late february
>late march start seeing analog drift in right analog stick
>PS3 slim controller has gone through a decade of use and countless hours in fucking COD games where analog sticks get beaten and works fine decade later
nah sony went full trash once california took over
>USB is instant
Physically impossible. It's still polled.
All digital inputs must be processed to be displayed, it's imposible to not have lag on a non-analog display
You just don't notice because your brain is so smooth it introduces lag
You don't need it for your Overwatch and DOTA that have like 50f of client-side input lag for online buffering.
overwatch and dota are your examples lol ok console retard
That's why i said............ "Probably 1ms"
>buying budget tv
>buying low tier controller
>buying cheap cables
You just need money you filohy peasent
Well, it's not like you're playing Quake, and I imagine you're dogshit at StarCraft, so I wouldn't sweat a frame or two of input lag.
I dont care if it's a reverse brag but my brain notices any form of lag from controllers and the autistic part of me screams in agony.
It will be a glorious system for fgc tournaments but I fear they will just igbecause it got overtaken by sonyfanatics in 8th gen.
so now your argument is simply assuming I'm bad at games. typical Yas Forums loser argument that devolves into projecting your own lack of skill onto others.
It's way more obvious than it should be.
Play Megaman X on a SNES w/ CRT and compare it to the Legacy Collection.
Or even emulated versions! There's still some frames of driver lag for input and video output that will always piss you off.
I've made money playing games competitively. Have you?
Anyways, feel free to post results I guess. No need to be shy
you're the one making the claim big guy, you first
FGC will use whichever console runs the game the best.
If the ps5 has similar input lag improvements I couldn't give less of a shit, desu.
There's no way it doesn't support ALLM as that's an HDMI 2.1 spec, but it remains to be seen if it's doing placebo stuff like 120hz output to reduce lag.
I just hope using wired PS4 controllers doesn't introduce lag like using Wired PS3 controllers did.