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The game is actually a sequel to Advent Children and an alternate timeline.
The Sephiroth in the game/trailers etc. is actually a future, time-traveller Sephiroth that wants to redo events from the original game, hence "Remake".
The "dementors" are Whispers of Fate that want to keep events as they went in the original and stop Sephiroth. This is why he fools the protags into thinking that they are evil they need to destroy. They do and final battle between Cloud and Sephiroth commences where retarded time fuckery happens like Zack surviving etc.
Basically it's not a remaster/remake of the original game but a sequel because retard Nomura couldn't endure not showing his retarded fanfic writing everywhere.
Yes, this is very good. This is what I'm paying Nomura for.
>Basically it's not a remaster/remake of the original game but a sequel because retard Nomura couldn't endure not showing his retarded fanfic writing everywhere.
Kill me
>the game is Midgar-only because it ends with them giving themselves carte blanche to fuck with the rest of the game in any way they choose
You know, I think I prefered it when we all assumed it was just a Jewish Trick to get more money out of the fans by needlessly splitting the game into episodes
Is that really how he dies? That's pretty lame. Finding him slumped over his desk was iconic.
Shinra looks like a cross between MGSV Big Boss and Old Snake
Post video of new english zack voice
Sound like bullshit but I can believe it
>Zack surviving
Not confirmed
He’s voiced by Skull Face
It's looking pretty bad
Is there blood in this game? Like on the walls like in the original?
It looks kinda retarded yeah, but it's hard to tell now if he's dead or alternate timeline "alive"
>Sephiroth kills Barret to prove a point
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>Dementors heal Barret because he's not supposed to die yet
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>Zack survives
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>Giving a shit about Zack's voice
Youre a fucking advent children and crisis core fuck aren't you? You are exactly the base square needed to market to. You fucking fat fuck.
>Zack survives
This is BEFORE he gives buster sword to Cloud
I'm 30 and 160 pounds. FF7 was the first Final Fantasy I played as it was the first one that came out in my country.
What the actual fuck? Why would they do this? Who asked for this fanfic shit?
It's confirmed that he survives in A timeline, but not the timeline that FF7R is in by the end of the game.
Sounds good to me. Better to have a sequel than a remake. Now I don't know what to expect in part 2
it's real
You know I could get behind a retelling of the original story. I can't fucking stand that it's time travel tomfoolery. Magic ghosts keeping the timeline the same is such a lame way to go about it.
Nomura is just a bad writer
Shitposting aside, it's been fun false flagging as a shill for (You)s in these threads.
i've read that wedge dies because he lives past the plate falling, and the ghosts take his soul because he wasn't supposed to live
It's not though how about actually playing the game or at least a no commentary stream. Did people forget Zack actually kills the first group of Shinra troops even in the original and then gets ambushed by 3 dudes and dies.
Last time you Zack in remake is when he's carrying unconscious
Cloud, and that's it.
>Aerith saves Cloud from Sephiroth
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>Tifa saves Cloud from Sephiroth
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>Cloud and Sephiroth recreate the final duel of the original
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He doesn't have to write shit, just copy paste the original script, tweak it a little bit and everyone will be happy.
The most frustrating part is that the game will be a financial success anyway and that hack will get away with it.
barret dying?? wtf
um WTF. does zack really survive? what in the fuck are they doing? theres no way they could have did this..this must be out of context...right?
>>Cloud and Sephiroth recreate the final duel of the original
Except that was a literal battle of wills where Cloud wails on Sephiroth, not a gayass Kingdom Hearts battle.
Barret is alive, Zack is dead
I'm concerned how this is going to affect Cloud's character development. Are they just going to handwave it and then have multiple universes converge together at some point so he just remembers everything he is supposed to?
>More Advent Children bullshittery
Glad I didn't preorder lol. I can see a few copies of this game in the second hand bin, I'll buy one from there.
Zack doesn't survive in any timeline, it's just a memory from the OG game they don't care about CC, especially now that Tabata was fired. Stupid retards.
Any secret links to videos/walkthroughs past Train Graveyard? That's furthest I was able to go until Square literally purged everything on the Inerwebs
>sephiroth opens a time portal into another timeline where zack is just fighting shinra army
>he sees midgar being covered in ghosts
>the party kills the ghost that would've spawned from zack's death
>he survives
>the ghosts vanish
What did sephiroth gain from this?
>Advent Children bullshittery
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>Tifa saves Cloud
You mean Tifa saves Cloud AND Aerith. Shippers stop twisting reality for once.
Why is Sephiroth actually trying to kill Cloud?
Sephiroth was unhappy with how his plan failed after the end of the original FF7. He then time traveled back to try to stop himself and change his plan. This game takes place in the second timeline and old-Sephiroth's presence in it drastically changes the course of the story. It's called FF7: Remake because Sephiroth wants to "remake" the world.
Wait, if changebad ghost can revived anyone that isn't supposed to be dead. Doesn't that mean Cloud & co. is practically immortal?
Dude, the scene shows the anti-retcon ghosts being vaporized around Zack. Then he looks up and says "I got them all?" like even he himself is surprised at his survival. The game even zooms on a bag showing that dumb cartoon dog you see throughout the game, except it has a completely different design, it's literally screaming "THIS IS A DIFFERENT TIMELINE", (timelines are confirmed in the entries for the anti-retcon ghosts by the way). Then in the last scene you see Zack carrying Cloud into Midgar while the gang is exiting Midgar. The implications are really obvious.
Also... they wouldn't use this scene as the cliffhanger if it didn't mean anything in the first place.
Do you mean when you first get there after the big bombing or later after you do the Cornelo stuff?
Why do you need a walkthrough anyway? Isn't it straightforward? Go to 7th heaven either way.
Yes he fucking does, it's in the VOD dumbass, Aerith even senses his presence in another world. We Kingdom Hearts now shillfag, you wanted this shit you fucking eat it.
Prepare yourself.
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I mean I dont have PS4 and I have no plans to support Squarecunts and this clusterfuck but I want to finish this shit so I can spit properly with arguments. I'm talking after Corneo.
The final fight is killing the ghosts
Aerith is seeing a memory. The entire game is about her moving on from her past, and that includes Zack. Learn the basics of storytelling sometime, retard.
Here you go bro. It unironically sounds like this:
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Until they kill the Changebad Ghost, yeah.
Wait is Changebad supposed to be some meta allegory for fans?
What's the point putting the epic showdown with the main villain at the end of episode 1?
> some random shitspeak
>NOOOO GHOSTERINOS CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DOOOOOOO
yes.
Do you really think Nomura is smart enough for that? Literally every game he has made has had faceless dudes in cloaks fucking with time.
It got nuked, but it's basically DW4 tier of bad.
Since when were you under the impression that Sephiroth is the main villain? The main villain now is FATE
we could've had:
>east continent exploration
>kalm
>chocobo farm
>capture and ride a chocobo
>zolom impaled
>mythril mine
>fort condor
>junon
>sephiroth appearing in the ship and killing everyone
>last boss fight, Jenova:Birth
it hurts bros
>whispers
>portal
>sephiroth in midgar
this wasn't in the original game. nomura really couldn't help himself, could he?
He's very much a style over substance guy. I don't know him as egotistical considering how little I know about him, but I could see him trying that without actually making a compelling case that makes sense.
What a surprise, Nomura went full retard.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
HELP ME TIFA
>Game is called Final Fantasy 7 Remake
>what fans expect
>a remake of Final Fantasy 7
>what fans get
>Nomura taking the Remake portion as a thematic story element to continue with his brand of garbage storytelling that should've been left in 2002
OH MY GOD. HOW DEEP. HOW BRAVE.
>Zack lives
My CWCheat run is validated. Fuck Crisis Core.
>Sephiroth trying to kill Cloud
In that Tifa video he has like ten seconds with his sword just hovering in front of Cloud's face where he could stab him and doesn't, he just waits for Tifa to come and stop him.
Look at the bright side of it. Zack might live, but he got absolutely retarded voice as fuck you to his fags.
can someone please tell me how much free space I need on my PS4 to actually install it
is it more than the 90 gigs it takes up
>The dev team was supposedly made up of fans who grew up playing the original, along with most of the original dev team
>Kitase himself oversaw everything and approved of everything
>it STILL ended up like this
HOW!?
Still, he has no reason to fight them right now, unless he's given up on the black materia plot.
RAPE
This remake is for people who like the original but are bored of it.
He's fucking with them so they think killing the time ghosts is a good idea
>Subtly? What the fuck is subtly?
They're all old and stupid, Squeenix has been stagnant for nearly two decades now, they're decidedly out of touch with the world outside of the Squeenix office.
>HOW!?
Squaresoft is dead, together with anything and everything good in it. Sakaguchi killed them all with Spirits Within
Since the Final Fantasy 7 fanbase is like the Star Wars one (full of pathetic consoomers and manbabies), Nomura knows that this trash will still sell like hot cakes. Doesn't matter if it's critically panned, it will be a commercial success, as will the next episodes. That's why he can get away with fanfic-tier bullshit like time-travellin' Sephiroth and retcon ghosts.
>NOOOO AAAAAAAA HE WANTS TO RAPE ME AGAIN TIFA THE STRONK WHAMAN THAT JOBBED TO LOZ HEEEEELP
>unless he's given up on the black materia plot.
He has. His goals are completely different now (changing fate and something about the edge of creation). He also unironically wants Cloud to join his side.
All they had to do was fix the dull ass minigames like half of Golden Saucer and Condor Fort.
Also now it's no longer Jenova doing basically everything, and the real fight being between Jenova and the Planet, but now Doctor Whophiroth is the one manipulating it all including Jenova.
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they replaced Aerith with an old white male?
well that's a step backwards
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>Who asked for this fanfic shit?
It was always Sephiroth.
Yeah dude, all that compilation trash sold so well after all
He lived, but at the cost of his voice.
>one winged kingdom hearts angel
ok i'm done with this game
>it's no longer Jenova doing basically everything
It's funny because you know full fucking well it was always Sephiroth and has been confirmed officially by the devs for decades
Nomura doesn't think like that, he's genuinely deluded into thinking he's saying saying "deep" or "important". The higher ups at SE clearly think like that though, not giving a damn about the legacy of their most important flagship game of all time.
It's more than 90 gigs
Why the smoke effect when Sephiroth stab a person?
No, it was always jenova until CC rewrote the canon.
WHERE IS IT?!