ITT: Unpopular opinions

>remake screenshots
>thinking dungeons are part of the overworld
Please be bait

Secret of Mana is a bad game but people have a difficult time coming to terms with it because the multiplayer seemed really fun during their formative years

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Not him but everything in OoT that isn't a dungeon *is* the overworld

>Dodging the point by being pedantic

OoT's world dwarfs LttP's in terms of how full of variety it is.

My favorite Zelda game is Zelda II
Because it was hard, and cool, and fun to explore
I loved the overworld -> transition to side scroller part.
Link to the Past is nice but it's like the original sin of Zelda games.
Going back to the Zelda 1 formula was like "yep, this is how all our games are gonna be now, gg"
Which don't get me wrong those games are all fine.

The Persona games have only gotten better with each entry.

Nintendo makes quality games consistenly, most of their stuff is an 8/10, however they struggle to make masterpieces and will usually only make one, or two, per generation.
Sony's exclusive are not nearly as consistent in quality, and they have lower lows, but they overall have more masterpieces than Nintendo and consistently have at least 3 per generation.

Characters like Geno and Crash would be bad additions to Smash because people want them in the game to validate their "legacy" rather than to use fun characters. Same thing with Banjo; unless you really like zoners, I don't see why many would pick him up. Easily the worst character in the fighter's pass imo.

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What are you on about? OOT's overworld is just grasslands, a forest, a mountain, and a desert. Same shit you find in LTTP, just in 3D.

I'm a huge OOT fanboy, but I could understand the argument for its overworld being a bit lacking.

Hyrule Field, Zora River, Lake Hylia and the Castle area are all the same with only a few interesting things to look at between them.

Then there are the Forest, Mountain and Desert areas that are visually unique, but they're kind of out the way of what you normally explore.

Jesus, what a horrible post.

Yeah but I mean would you say that the mountain and forest in LttP aren't the overworld? Of course they are.

Titanfall 2 multiplayer is mediocre, and the game is shallow. The movement aspects are great but the shooting is so goddamn shallow. They give the guns a big cone of effect when shooting hipfire to make it easier to land shots when you're shooting and moving. People trying to compare that to proper arena FPS are fucking retarded, and are the type of people to say any game they like has depth.

The N64 was a good console, but was all around inferior to the PS1. The only 10/10 games on the N64 are OoT and Super Mario. Banjo gets really overrated. The PS1 just had a much bigger diversity. Nintendo quality games are almost always overstated.

Timed hits in turn based RPGs are kind of dull.

Console shooters should have stuck with control schemes like the one in Time Splitters. Them trying to emulate PC shooters and hiding the aim assist away from players is pathetic.

Hollow Knight is the best Metroidvania made. Indie devs have kept the genre alive with shit like HK, AM2R, Valdis Story, Environmental Station Alpha, Ori 2 and Luna Nights. Aria is also better than Symphony.

Mega Man Legends is really underrated. The combat is fun, the city has a ton of personality, the sidequests reward players for exploring the city, the interconnected dungeon is amazing. Idiots just get filtered by the controls.

There's like nothing in the overworld though. In LA and LttP you could find a bunch of heart containers or rupees. I also think the cape in LttP was an optional item you could find in the overworld. In OoT the areas are big, but they're fairly dull to run around and there's almost nothing noteworthy to find. Death Mountain and Goron City are big and mostly empty, the Zora Domain is too but the area leading up to it is fun to run around.

fuck you we are going back to potato

Sonic 2, 3 and Knuckles, and Mania are 10/10 games. People always try and fail to criticize the games. They usually say dumb shit like "Sonic is supposed to be about going fast" when they're all about momentum based platforming.

Odd World 1 and 2 are also 10/10 games. They're visually stunning, challenging, have great worlds and lore, and unique mechanics that set them apart from anything else.

>In LA and LttP you could find a bunch of heart containers or rupees.

Which OoT has way more of.

>I also think the cape in LttP was an optional item you could find in the overworld.

OoT also has a number of optional magical items you can find similarly. You also have stuff like optional 'dungeon' areas like the Gerudo Training Grounds, and multi-stage sidequests and large numbers of collectables like skultulas and poes.

LttP is, pound for pound, less full of stuff than OoT, except for enemies.

>LttP is, pound for pound, less full of stuff than OoT, except for enemies.

Quality over quantity

Holy shit, this.
I recently tried to play through the game again with the collection, since I had remembered enjoying it as a kid. Its so fucking bad, the first game was way better, and Secret is a broken piece of shit with no direction and wonky combat. Immediate red flag when the first boss could just cast magic to take out most of my HP and knock me unconscious at the same time, then finish me off with physicals. Game would actually be 100% unbeatable if they didn't infinitely revive you in that shitshow of a fight.

>LttP is, pound for pound, less full of stuff than OoT, except for enemies.
All the dungeons in OoT are more linear and easier than the dungeons in LttP and LA. Skulltulas are just a collectable like the sea shells from LA, and the Goron sword side quest is just a fetch quest. Those are also side content, I was talking about the overworld and what's in it.

5 star post.

OoT is IMO greater in both quality and quantity, but at least you concede the point.

SNES is superior to NES in every conceivable way.

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You mean Abe's Oddysse and Exoddus?

I honestly really don't like NES games. They are overly punishing when you die, with some giving you game overs that restart the entire fucking game. They are generally really simple and lack mechanical depth. They achive difficulty through memorization more than anything else. The SNES was a huge step in the right direction, there's nothing on the NES that can compete with Super Metroid, Chrono Trigger, or Donkey Kong. SMW is also better than SMB3.

The NES does difficulty the wrong way.

Yeah.

Sounds like you prefer "experiences" over gameplay.

My unpopular opinion is that the Sega Genesis was much better than the SNES because it prioritized gameplay above all.

>All the dungeons in OoT are more linear and easier than the dungeons in LttP

Lolno. LA you might have some argument, but most of LttP's dungeons are relatively short and straight forward, and aren't as elaborately designed as something like OoT's Forest Temple.

>Those are also side content, I was talking about the overworld and what's in it.

When what counts as being in LttP's overworld? Because then surely stuff like the chest you carry around to get a bottle wouldn't count because that would be a 'fetch quest', just less elaborate than what happens in OoT.

Skulltulas are a collectable like the sea shells from LA, so surely they matter given there are both more of them and they are hidden in a larger variety of creative ways? I mean, what metric can you come up with that woudl maek me wrong.

Yeah, a real masterpiece.

You know what you said reminded me of this scene.
I'm Chris
You're Wesker
and the Tyrant is the original RE1
youtu.be/kJ2djNORNfE

Yeah I kinda have to agree. It's restrictive and the puzzles aren't elaborate enough to be good like Ocarina.

>Odd World are also 10/10 games

Oh God this. I only played them recently, and it fucking blew my mind how good they were. I was just not expeting that level of care and quality from them, given they were liked but never really considered masterpieces back in the day.

ITT you're not even an autist, you're just a cretin stuck on a loop.

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I don't like having to deal with Reds.

Banjo was done really dirty, I don't know why he has two projectile moves. Just the egg shooting for neutral B was fine, down special should have been another melee move, something fun, goofy and unconventional. Like pooping a grenade, but not a projectile and not another egg based thing at all.

SotN is the most overrated fucking game of all time. Still a good game but not the 10/10 masterpiece that everyone makes it out to be. There’s no meaningful challenge and so much of the map and several bosses are completely unnecessary to beat the game and they only leading to small trinkets that are probably underpowered by the time you reach them.

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Breath of the Wild and Majora's Mask are the only 3D games where I actually have fun exploring and not just blitzing the critical path. I actually much prefer MM to OoT because it feels like dungeon crawling is all there is to do in Ocarina once you hit adulthood, especially since 3 of the 5 temples have their own mini dungeon leading up to them

butt blasted

Based
Cringe

Is this an unpopular opinion? I thought everyone agreed on this
I think there are some games that have aged fine, but a lot of them are pretty antiquated

But Mega Man, Zelda and Mario 3 are great.

>I thought everyone agreed on this
every zoomer maybe

I'll only agree if you think Super Metroid is an all time classic that's superior in almost every way

Doom and Quake are the only good Doom/Quake clones. Duke is ok, but others such as Blood, Dusk, Ion Fury, Hexen, and so on range from below average to fucking shit. Deus Ex, Half Life, Unreal, System Shock 2, and even Halo are objectively better.

Quakefags are even worse. Especially when you realize 90% of them are retards who play like shit in giant gangbang FFA fuckfests where literally anyone can win and can't even do a quarter of the things they say make their game so skillful

Undertale is objectively better than Lisa and the only people that disagree are contrarians, faggots that think bullshit mechanics = hardcore = good, and/or edgelords that thinks anything with "muh depression" = good story the same way fags think "muh queers" = good story

I enjoyed Resident Evil 7 more than REMake 1 or RE4 and am looking forward to buying REMake 2 and 3 during the summer sale as they look fun

Banjo Tooie>Kazooie

The only Zelda game I have ever played was BOTW and I found that to be ok at best. I have 0 interest in any other game in the series and genuinely do not understand its appeal

Subnautica was a fucking chore and I put it down halfway through. Even the scary factor wears off when you realize how easy it is to run away from most threats.

The Spyro Reignited Trilogy was perfectly fine design wise save for Elora. Purists have genuine autism

Speaking of which, the only people that play TF2 on a regular basis are also genuinely autistic. The game is fucking shit nowadays unless you can hop on the Yas Forums server.

>snes is zoomer
Stop using terms you don't understand

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Escort missions are the least fun missions of all

I've been playing Ys since the translation for I and II Eternal came out like a billion years ago but I think the modern era is the best it's ever been and it actually feels like you're going on sprawling adventures instead of arcade romps through themed obstacle courses. My top 3 is VIII, II Complete, Celceta

snes emulation is zoomer since they have never played a real snes

all they play is jrpgs and a couple of nintendo properties like DKC and refuse to give anything else a fair go

Ganons Tower, Skull Woods, Misery Mire and Palace of Darkness are standout dungeons but other than that yeah the game is kinda too simple and easy, I really think the two world thing did more a disservice to the overworld. I would only rate LttP so high because aside from puzzles all the later 2D Zelda are even more casualized.

Top 3 actually is
Napishtim
Lacrimosa
Ancient Ys Vanished

my other hot take is that I love playing Ys I but I turn it down to Easy and just enjoy the atmosphere and music because the game is too busted to be fun on anything higher than normal. Nightmare all day for II though

>snes emulation is zoomer since they have never played a real snes

>all they play is a few third party games and a couple of nintendo properties like super mario bros and refuse to give anything else a fair go

I think self-inserting into games is not for me.
I prefer to pretend I am someone else.

I was a Genesis kid growing up, but I also had an NES growing up. I'd say the SNES was a better console, but the Genesis is really underrated. Sonic, Dynamite Headdy, Gunstar Heroes, Phantasy Star, and Streets of Rage are all amazing. I just really never liked how NES games achive difficulty through memorization and being overly punishing to mistakes. Replaying the same stages over and over gets dull for me insanely fast, unless the game actually has good mechanics to keep me going.

>Lolno.
youtube.com/watch?v=6LO8Z1DkDqc
This guy does a good job breaking down all the dungeons. Basically all of them but the water temple are "enter room, solve puzzle, get key, repeat until boss".

>When what counts as being in LttP's overworld?
Level design for one. Death mountain isn't interesting to run around, the Goron City only has the Biggorons sword quest and nothing else of interest there, Hyrule Field is big and empty, I can't remember there being anything in that town were you get the song of storms, Hyrule Lake is also lacking and not a ton of fun to run around.

I really like OoT and it literally set the standard for controls in a 3D action game, but I think older Zelda games did dungeons and the overworld better.

They're fucking insanely good. I know the first game sold really well, but I think the overall difficulty of the series kept people away.

yeah god forbid you actually lose at a video game. if a game doesn't punish you, then why the fuck even play it?

Metroid Prime is boring , shallow and not immersive in the slightest
the first Metro 2033 is worse than Last Light but they're both bad
Celeste is the only good percision platformer
New Vegas having bad gunplay isn't forgiveable just because you don't have to build a character that uses guns, because roleplaying options are reduced if you don't want to deal with the floaty, made-in-unity shovelware tier combat

Mega Man 7 is better than the X trilogy.

I prefer all the other 2D Zelda games over LTTP, but LTTP is not bad. And I'd take LTTP over any 3D game except Ocarina and BotW. I liked ALBW even more than LTTP.

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>I liked ALBW even more than LTTP.
my absolute fucking nigga. Possibly THE most underrated Zelda.

old zora > nu zora

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You can do it without even getting hit