So it's not just a remake, it's a full on reboot of the story like the Evangelion movies, hence the title RE-Make...

not at all. why would I want a potential ending that involves literal time cop ghosts?

The confused and convoluted multiverse Kingdom Hearts timeline shenanigans are representative of Nomura's repressed homosexuality.

Prove me wrong.

It's trash

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>Jessie still dies
Fuck this trash

Not sure bgg if serious, I got off the hype train as soon as I found out it was episodic but I cant imagine the plot has gone that far off the deep end.

It's actually true. Someone will post the webms eventually.

>rebuild (before 3.0) sequel hints
>subtles clues like throwaway lines, snippets from end of eva, even things like shinji's walkman
>FFVII remake sequel hints
>THERE'S THESE GHOSTS RIGHT AND THEY LIKE CONTROL THE TIMELINES RIGHT SO LIKE IF SOMETHIGN GOES WRONG PROLLY THE FIX IT CUZ TIMELINES LIKE IF SOMEONE DIES THEY JUST BRING THEM BACK TO LIFE CUZ THEY NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT RIGHT AND EVERYONE SEES ALL THESE BAD THINGS THAT HAPPENED WE GONNA FIX ALL THAT CUZ BAD THINGS ARE BAD PEOPLE LIKE HAPPY THINGS

How naive

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Oh please don’t try to make the rebuilds seem like anything other than trash

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Source of all of that?

fuck off shill

It's true. All of it.

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It's probably leftovers from the versus 13 plot that Nomura crammed into ff7. That's why it's so jarring. XV had this entire retarded time travel subplot too. So Nomura probably got buttflustered and wanted his idea about the spooky ghosts of Christmas past somewhere

You are right.

Getting AIDS from an injection doesn't make it better than getting it from being assfucked.

So, how mad will normies be when they find out? Will they even care? I only like the midgar section of FFVII, which is still 99% intact and I am still mad as hell.

Why did no one fucking stop him?

They changed the entire plot entirely, it's not a remake, it's a revision.

Based Nomura taking subverted expectations to the next level. You know there's absolutely going to be a group of pissed off fans who are going to try to sue Square for false advertising

i hope they have some broship scenes of cid and cloud and cloud vincent.

i would only accept this alternate realities if it leads to anther dissadia instead of gay compilation gackt bullshit.

That the Bombing Mission is changed from 10-15 minutes of action and mystery to a 45-60 minute set piece says it all really.

They won't care because most of them didn't play the original

Nigger, EVERYONE played FF7

youtube.com/watch?v=fo_ZWbYt-OI

Why did no one stop any of the mistakes made by the Star Wars sequels?

There will be no Vincent, only Cloud del Futuro Pasado.

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Lack of oversight? The entire last battle feels tacked on. Nomura even recycles video clips from advent children. Like it comes over as very low budget compared to the rest of the game.

My prediction is that it’s actually gonna be heavily praised as a crazy twist that’s really awesome. Yas Forums will say otherwise but I can feel it.

might as well give them bad publicity at the very least

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I would personally execute Nomura, Jesus Fucking Christ.
20 fucking years and he does this shit.

don't forget the new dlc characters

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The fucking madman. I'm not even mad. I'm just curious as to how this is actually going to to turn out.

>old game has low res city
>OLD GOOD
>new game also has low res city
>NEW BAD

fuck off shill

I didn't
as a kid I couldn't get behind the weird overworld chibi artstyle (I still think the popeye arms are fucking ridiculous) so I got FF8 instead

when I heard about the remake initially I was interested, but hearing that it's actually some sort of secret sequel has made me lose all interest

And the secret boss

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find a new script

Six days too early to pass judgment. This board never got over TORtanic and always wants reruns, so stamp down the paranoia and wait for solid evidence.

A better comparison would be the prequels since they were 99% on Lucas while the sequels' shortcomings are "random" and mostly due to a lack of coherent vision by multiple people

>Ghosts bring back everyone that was killed
>Leave alive everyone that was supposed to die
If they actually went to kill all the people from the slums that didn't get crushed this time around I'd understand why the party may want to fight them but as it stands it's just dumb to kill the only thing between you and Sephiroth murdering everyone

FF7 trannies BTFO

you aren't welcome here shill

Yep just like the Rebuild movies Complete garbage

People already finished the game and they relied that this is all true. And it's even worse.

>Long ago we looked upon a foreboding sky
>The memory of the star that threatened all burns eternal in our hearts
>In its wake came an age of silence
>Yet with each fond remembrance we knew those encountered were not forgotten
>That someday we would see them again
>Perhaps it was no more than wishful thinking
>But after the long calm there now the beginnings of a stir
>The reunion at hand may bring joy, it may bring fear
>But let us embrace whatever it brings
>For they are coming back
>At last the promise has been made
There, they told us about it from the very beginning. So much to MUH false advertising.

Don't be retarded. Did you forget the FFXV threads? We were saying that was shit years before it came out, and the game leaked early and we found it it was worse than we assumed.

FF7R isn't nearly as bad but it's still fucked up and you shouldn't support this kind of garbage.

Stop being retarded talking about irrelevant TOR, we've been shitting on games since day 0.

no proof

Not a reboot the original still happened

Sakaguchi = Lucas
Nomura = Kathleen Kennedy

Literally not true.
I watched every spoiler stream available and nothing implies any of your bullshit.

> sw prequels bad
When will this gay/plebbit communities meme die

I don't know but personally I'm a hard ff fan, played VII countless of times, and I don't dislike that they did, it's a wild new take on the story and original events still have to be shown if what sephiroth is trying to change is the original plot.
Inb4 shill, but I'm actually excited to see what happens.

Rebuild of Kingdom Hearts Fantasy VII

what? The evangelion movies are not remake? Is this confirmed in the lat movie? I didn't see it yet

I have a feeling the "Remake" actually means "Sephiroth wants to Remake" (the world) so that it has a more favorable outcome for him.

The next one could then be called Final Fantasy VII: Unmake (the world) and Final Fantasy VII: Revive (the world)

normies won't even realize it. Normies are people that think the characters in Lost were dead all along

Im legitimately sad to see howmany people are angryabout this. I love the og 7 and consider its story to be one of the best ever told in a game but these leaks have only increased my hype. Im really stoked for the remake

Why is it only 30 hrs? FF15 was fairly long and SE spent years working on it. Why make it so short? They spent years working on it and we know part 2 has been in development for years. So what's the deal?

the "Rebuild" movies start out as a remake, but then a major event has a different outcome that completely changes the story and sets in on a wildly different path

this is why you don't let nomura have creative freedom

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The difference is that Nomura didn't create, direct and produce all the original FFs.

It's been seven years.

It's a last minute twist ending.
Most of the game leading up to that point is almost 1:1 remake.

shit i'll have to watch them,I thought they were just remakes

XV had no time travel, what are you talking about?

The difference between doomers and so-called "shills" is that the so-called "shills" are just cautiously optimistic about what happens in the future and that it MIGHT be good, while the doomers already painted a clear picture in their minds of how Nomura WILL supposedly screw future content up for certain without any doubt. That's all, because that's all that doomers have. The actual changes we saw have in total been very little and somehow people assume that them knowing some of the future stuff will somehow cause Rufus' parade in Junon not to happen or something.

Why does Yas Forums cope on this with these meta elements when nothing ever before made bu SE/Nomura did that

>appeals to emotion
Shills on suicide watch.

It's confirmed shit.

What that guy meant was that it's seven years since the last one came out. The final episode hasn't come out yet. It might come out this year.

Yes it fucking did you retard, did you even play it?

The "Remake" is a part of the game that was originally just 3-4 hours long. It's already padded to hell and back.

*siiiiiiiiiiiiip* ahhhhh
I too remember fighting sephiroth on midgard bridge, fellow fan
*burp*

>why is the first five hours of the game only being stretched to 30 hours

>nothing ever before made bu SE/Nomura did that
What?

Did you? Hint: Umbra doesn't actually take you to the past.

It's the difference of being a retard(you) and being sane(""doomers""). You not only can't see the cringe in the remake with all the virgin bait and gay shit, you're defending the literal fan fiction changes to the story by the autistic sperg Nomura.

You might not be a legitimate shill unlike some people who are actually shilling, but you're the kind of retard who eats up their fake optimism and takes their "opinions" for yourself.

You're an idiot.

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It's weird to think that the opening bombing mission is now 1/4 of the entire Midgar section in the original.

They were obviously sequels like ten minutes into the second movie, before it completely changed how Unit 4 or Zeruel played out

Beautifuly said user. People just arent fun anymore. I blame Reddit.

Even if you weren't lying (which you are), people who wanted an actual remake already will not get what they wanted. It is effectively ruined for them. It's a different story.

I am asking why that is the case. Why not do more? It seems lazy and rushed but they have had ample time. It makes no sense at all unless they want to release 7 parts.

Semantics, you double nigger. You carry items from "the past" into the future.

>The actual changes we saw have in total been very little
Ah yes having two sephiroths, one of them being a time traveller and fighting him in Midgar is a very LITTLE CHANGE.
Kill yourself, Nomura.

>but I cant imagine the plot has gone that far off the deep end.
lol

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They literally stated that they want to release remake sequels inbetween mainline FF titles
Even if they're including XIV expansions they're still suggesting this shit will take another six years at least

No, the first signs of being sequels were the references to EoE in 1.0's landscapes. The opening of 2.0 doesn't say anything about a sequel because it's completely new stuff.

>expect remake
>get reboot
WTF I LOVE NOMURA NOW

find a new script

>zoom on sephiroth's "heh, nothin personnel" face

So it's not a subplot and no actual time travel ever happens. Good of you to admit it.

user, this small part took them nearly 6 years to release. The Remake is going to be here for a while.

Maybe we will get a FF6 remake. That would be much easier than 7

Why do you want them to ruin FF6 too?

The scene with Kaworu on the moon is pretty early on in 2.0 iirc, though its been like a decade since I watched it, admittedly, the "references" to EoE in 1.0 are more subtle than the new material which makes it very obvious that rebuild wasn't a remake at all

Honestly with all the "s-s-shills!!" Screeching im starting to thinkthe doomers are just tortanic shitposters. Maybe reception to this game will be good after all

Isn't it sad to reply to your own wall of text because everyone just ignored it?

Haha bro it's just Jenova bro

They can just remake it. Why would they ruin the best FF? This was just an aberration and we have no clue how much has changed

>theory 1
This exists so they can justify not doing everything the rest of the series has to. Can change order, cut events and more minor towns. They are blinded by being a huge AAA experience so it can't just have a simple world map but an open world. They can make a game that resembles FF7 without actually having to commit at any point.

>theory 2
SE lacks confidence it can get all the parts out so by changing the story it can end at any time. The sequel could just be time bullshit that has no basis in FF7 which has a clear structure you couldn't end half way through.

>theory 3
Nomura really just can't help himself, and SE wants to start up the Compilation again as it lost faith in FF.

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the fuck is that gay shit?

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so blackie dies so aerith survives?

where do i sign in?

>don't have item in future
>go "back in time"
>huh, guess I forgot had this
The state of Nomura drones.

Beautifuly said user.

literally nobody here cares what you think

Which reputation management company do you work for, mate?

>It's a last minute twist ending.
cope. you have no proof, you are a faggot ass redditor

More like you've been desperately bringing up tor in some obfuscation tactic. People are having an issue with a very specific part of the ending. It's not that the game is poorly made or likely to flop, but that a specific story change is rather cringe and gay (much like yourself)