Best selling Nintendo console in over a decade

>PS4 Exclusives are just boring movie games
But I thought the complaint about Bloodborne was that it wasn't a movie and instead focuses too much on gameplay?

Even if Nintendo makes hardware on par with the other 2 they're not guaranteed to get better support

Remember the Wii U? That was on par with the other 2? When it was released when PS3 and 360 were still getting games? And still the majority of the games skipped it?

Nintendo was just too late to the party and all the devs are moving on to xbx and ps5. The outdated hardware defiantly doesn't help.

Except the GameCube was also incompetent, and don't get me started on the disc's.

>moving onto xbx and ps5
not in 2017 when it was released

Meh, Bloodborne becomes pretty boring after you beat it the first time. That's pretty much the only fun exclusive on the PS4. For the first time you play it.

It takes 3 years to develop a game retard

AAA shit maybe. Budget shit doesn't take nearly that long.

Just ask Dust who shits out a new Atelier game every year

yeah and budget shit is exactly what it is, shit.

>Makes incompetent hardware
>237 pixel density vs 62 for a 65" 4K TV
>average strength hardware for a mobile phone
>in a handheld
How is it incompetent? Mobiles/handhelds are limited in what they can do due to things such as heat, power supply, and so on. I mean what, do you want a 20% improvement in performance for 4 times the selling price or something?

Some of the best games are budget shit nigger

Look at all those fun eurojank games

Many 3rd parties have a grudge against Nintendo. Also, Sony pays a lot of them off.

>Old port old port
>old port
>sports trash
>old port
>old port
>old port

>That's pretty much the only fun exclusive on the PS4. For the first time you play it.
Honestly owning a PS4, I don't recall any other exclusives that I would have bought it for either. I do disagree with it being fun for only a single playthrough, but it does lose its appeal after a few. I swear, if From wants to improve a single thing, it should be their netcode. That shit is horrendous.

>buying a Nintendo console for its third party support

>It takes 3 years to develop a game
You both are talking about porting are you not? It doesn't take 3 years to port you dumb nigger...

maybe they should invest in hardware that can run modern games if they don't want only old ports.
>b-but it can run the witcher 3! btfo!
yes, in the same way that the vita "runs" borderlands 2.

See

>Remember the Wii U? That was on par with the other 2?
you mean the console they released in the very last year of the ps360 generation, right in time for the industry to start saving up for the ps4/xbone? the console they also sabotaged right out the gate with the worst marketing campaign ever created? gee, i wonder why it didn't get much third party support.

>Also, Sony pays a lot of them off.
sony hasn't given a shit about nintendo in ages. playstation is run by stupid westerners now who weren't around back when nintendo betrayed sony. this idea that they're "paying" for games to NOT come out on a platform that they don't view as competition is retarded.

You seem to be forgetting developers were cautious about the PS4 and Xbone. The PS3 and 360 were still getting a decent handful of games up until about 2015. And still most of those skipped the Wii U.

Also you seem to be forgetting the fact 3rd parties didn't even try on Wii U. When the PS3 was flopping at launch it was still getting a lot of multiplats. They didn't even attempt to do so on Wii U.
It also still had developers being the biggest jews imaginable like the Mass Effect 3 self sabotage

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>When the PS3 was flopping at launch it was still getting a lot of multiplats. They didn't even attempt to do so on Wii U.
While I agree with a big portion of your post, this is a shitty example to use. PS3's release was a massive success compared to how horrible the Wii U did...

neither did the switch.

See

>outside of old ports
That's the entire game industry at this point

Fucking everyone's just shitting out old ports, that's all anyone's been getting outside of rehash exclusives or the one or two unique games we get maybe twice a year, but PC already took those slots this year.

It feels like the entire industry has been in a rut for the longest time now.

PS3 flopped after launch. The PS2 and GBA were selling better than it was at points. And yet, it was still getting a lot of 3rd party support.

Wii U? After launch, 3rd parties had nothing. Not even old ports. They did not even try on it

>PS3 flopped after launch
I didn't say it didn't have a rough start. But as bad as it was, it was still double of what the Wii U sold. They aren't comparable.

It's just that the demographic doesn't care, and rightfully so, 3rd party games are shit

It's a handheld and a handheld is always a generation or two behind in terms of games. GB struggled to even meet NES games, GBA was basically handheld SNES, DS was basically handheld N6$, 3DS is basically handheld Game Cube.

You should be surprised they went straight to Wii U instead of the Switch being a handheld Wii.

Wii U actually sold 2 million at launch, that was more than the Wii did.

After that it dropped off a cliff due to back marketing and no games

Yeah, so it didn't do as well as the PS3, and unlike the PS3, it didn't help deliver a new major medium to the market. Bluray guaranteed that the PS3 would not die an early death so porting to it was still a safe choice.

>but HD-DVD came out at the same time
Bluray was the clear winner before the race even began for a few reasons. Only delusional fanboys who didn't know anything about the market thought otherwise.

Nintendo's hardware is aimed at gimmicks that are successful or that people don't fucking care about. Only Nintendo themselves ever seem to master the capabilities of the system and push it to the absolute limit, and third parties companies usually don't, or maybe they do, but somehow, some way, their games run badly most of the time. After the Wii U, even normalfags now know that if you buy Nintendo stuff, it is mostly to play Nintendo games. Add to that since Nintendo themselves posit they are only in competition with themselves, as they don't compete in the same market as MS and Sony, their systems are simply incapable of running most stuff.
And this is just my opinion, but despite how much I like my Switch, I learned the hard way that buying 3rd party shit on it is a big mistake. I could have bought Valkyria Chronicles cheaper, and at 60fps on PS4, but I said fuck it and bought it on the Switch and it runs like fucking ass. Indies are okay, but it's rare for me to be interested in them.

I'm talking at launch. They both did poorly after it. But one came out fine in the end and 3rd parties actually tried on it
>Also saying only reason it sold because it was a blu ray player
Based

goalposts= m o v e d

Nintendo will never learn what they should have learned by now. They march to the beat of their own drum, sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't. Regardless, they never fully grasp why they succeed or fail, or at the very least it takes them about 7-10 years to get a handle on it. So if third parties only want to port old shit then Nintendo is down to clown. Sales are good so everything good.

>Also saying only reason it sold because it was a blu ray player
No, I was saying it was a strong selling point, and a reason to believe it would sell decent enough. Shit, it was pretty much the best bluray player in existence for a couple of years after release even if you had no interest in games.

>I'm talking at launch
So am I.

>No, I was saying it was a strong selling point
You mean only selling point.
>So am I.
No you ain't

>You mean only selling point
No, I'd say the PS and PS2 were stronger selling points. I certainly had faith in buying a PS3 due to owning those 2 consoles.

>at launch
Launch window is generally considered the first year, unless you are trying to create your own definition which would be meaningless. Looking at launch window for the Wii U, it had 3.45m sales. The PS3 had somewhere from 5.63m to 10.53m in sales in its first year.

>I certainly had faith in buying a PS3 due to owning those 2 consoles

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Because Nintendo wants its systems to be only 90 percent their properties, and their consoles are weak gimmick shit no one wants to develop for. I don’t see Nintendo making new consoles in 10 years, there’s only so many times faggots will buy NEW MARIO/NEW ZELDA/PORT OF LAST GEN GAME

>No, I'd say the PS and PS2 were stronger selling points.
599 US dollars
>Launch window
no one said anything about launch window. Also I dont think those sales are accurate

>I don’t see Nintendo making new consoles in 10 years
how many times have you faggot said this by now?

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>there’s only so many times faggots will buy NEW MARIO/NEW ZELDA/PORT OF LAST GEN GAME

uh, not really. this loop will outlive us all.

>599 US dollars
How is this supposed to tie into what you quoted?

>no one said anything about launch window
Umm...
>I'm talking at launch
Again, the only other option is you are creating some fictitious amount of time to consider "launch". The first week or weekend has no realistic impact on the performance of a console so a launch window is more appropriate to go by the first year. This isn't like movies where the first weekend in theaters constitutes most of the sales on a normal basis.

>Also I dont think those sales are accurate
They come from those companies financial data. If they weren't accurate then they would be liable for major lawsuits from share owners. If ANY number is accurate, those would have the highest probability.

Sorry, what is the joke? Were you not around for those 2 consoles or something?

>emulator boxes exist for many years
>can emulate NES games on your phone, PC, handhelds, so on so forth
>release the NES Classic
>sells like fucking hotcakes
>for something with a shitty amount of games, a shittier version of the controller that is wired, and a halfassed emulator
It will take WW3 to end this shit user.

>launch! = launch window
>The first week or weekend has no realistic impact on the performance of a console so a launch window is more appropriate to go by the first year
You made this shit up to move goalposts. No one mentioned anything about launch windows.
>They come from those companies financial data.
your ass is not the companies financial data

Yea I was. And the PS3 was a significant downgrade with having no games
Thats what you get for following brands

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>He really believes this

>You made this shit up to move goalposts
No, that is pretty standard... In fact, lets go by the fucking company that you are even arguing about. They use the first year to define any title that is released as a "launch title". The only one here trying to make up retarded random standards to go by is you... By saying "launch" you are saying the launch window. You are the one trying to move goal posts on what the launch window should be considered. If you want to prove otherwise, tell me how long constitutes the "launch" and show me in this thread where you posted such information.

>your ass is not the companies financial data
Right, which is why I used their financial data instead of my ass.

>And the PS3 was a significant downgrade with having no games
But that was just a meme. The PS3 was the best choice for the generation as far as game selection goes. So what I got for buying something based on previous performance was exactly what I wanted to get. Games. Microsoft dropped support for the Xbox when the 360 was rearing its head, and low and behold it did the same for the 360. Nintendo was making a console that was geared towards people who don't play games, and guess what type of games it got. How was the PS3 even close to being the wrong choice?

>following brands
I don't follow brands like a fanboy. I follow trends. That is why I have no interest in buying a PS5 or Xbox Series X. The only thing I've ever come close to wasting money on in my life was the Wii U, but I put so many hours into MH3U that it made up for it.

>But that was just a meme. The PS3 was the best choice for the generation as far as game selection goes
OH NO NO NO AHAHAHA
>I don't follow brands like a fanboy.
NIGGER YOU LITERALLY FOLLOWED THER BRAND AND ARE TRYING TO JUSTIFY YOUR PURCHASE NOW AHAHAHA

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>But that was just a meme
it really wasn't

Shit's an underpowered tablet. This is the best you're going to get.

>OH NO NO NO AHAHAHA
>it really wasn't

>anons believe "no gaems" meme is real
How the fuck do newfags always find a way to lower the bar on stupidity?

Even if it had more power it wouldn't get better support because 3rd parties are lazy