The least satisfying weapon in FPS history

it's genuinely better though, mainly just because of the sound profile being more meaty and powerful sounding. HL2's pistol literally sounds like a peashooter

How do you take such a cool handgun and make it feel so shitty to use?

This still the worst gun ever.

Because it would have been too over powered with dual wielding weapons. One hand has magnum, other has plasma pistol. Charge shot to kill shield and one shot from magnum to kill. It was too powerful so they cycled it until reach where they got rid of dual wielding so there was no longer a problem.

i never understood why it doesn't spit out shell casings like it should?

That could have been an easy day 1 patch, more over, ep1 and ep2 have exactly the same issue.

Fuck you, OP, and fuck the fact that the Match barrel kits for the USP are out of production or else I'd have one for myself.

It was too overpowered anyway. Halo 1's weapon sandbox was so broken that you spawn with the second best weapon in the game and there's absolutely no reason to pick up anything other than the sniper. It's just like that DMR spawn shit they pulled in Reach.

He's right though. It sounds good, is more useful than the MP5, and at the time I recall thinking its model and animations were pretty impressive. It was cool to see the little casings eject and watch Gordan replace the magazine. Probably there had been other games that had reload animations at the time, but HL1 was the first time I noticed them.

you mean every gun in san andreas
i still don't understand how rockstar thought it was ok to release a game with such pathetic gun sound effects when you spend so much of your time shooting at shit

What are some third person games with good gun feel?
The max payne series is all I got

Yes, but I wanted to be gentle.

Not even close.

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the pistol is my favorite, fuck you. pistols are based as fuck in every game.
the smg sucks

I've just watched a Doom 3 video about this weapon, did you really have to absolutely point blank? Like,

To be fair that thing is supposed to be shit.

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Its got the weakest shooting sound ever. I changed its sound after a 10 minutes

someone post the shotgun from that AAA zombie game

That pistol was so weak that I was thinking the charge shot bug was a feature. (You could hold and charge up bullets, then shot whole mag at once)

It worked perfectly fine for the metrocops if you headshoted them. Felt like shit against all the other types of enemies.

Its up there with the Klobb. Like your shooting blanks. But you could duel weild the klobb so...

The combine dying sound is very satisfying

Unbelievable, how did this not get spotted in playtesting? Was it fixed in RoE?

>ITT bizarro Yas Forums

it was fixed in the BFG edition , might have been also in Roe but its been a while i havent played it so my memory of it is vague

Dual DD44 Dostovei cannot be beaten.

That video is from the bfg edition

Making corpses explode with the crowbar in hl1 was the best shit though

this

Glock in CS says hi

am I the only one that really enjoyed the feel of the pistol? Feels like a mass produced dystopian 3d printed crowd controller, popping off shots in your first few firefights feels good.

Based and GoldenEyepilled.

since someone else brought GE weapons up first, I'm working on a project to replace all of the game's sounds with their uncompressed versions, but I can't find a clean version of the PP7 sound for the life of me, closest I can is this video at 36:58 youtu.be/51hKUCY1VY8

If anyone knows where I can find that sound clean and uncompressed I'll cut my dick off and offer it to them as tribute

1tapping cts in pistol rounds feel great what are you on about
i'd put the 2016 doom pistol up there, feels like such a piece of shit

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Galil in CS 1.6 looked and sounded like a welfare version of the AK 47.

>1tapping cts in pistol rounds feel great what are you on about
I'm not convinced.

That's what it is in real life too

Half-Life 1 had great feeling weapons with shit damage. Half-Life 2 had weak feeling weapons with great damage.

HL1 has a better arsenal. HL2 feels like they stopped when they had the standard stuff done because muh gravity gun. Yes it was a nice gimmick. The rest of the arsenal still feels half assed because all other weapons are from HL1 except the shitty pulse rifle. Tau Cannon was a much better feeling weapon. And you had the Gluon Gun and Hive Hand as bonus.

why don't you like it?
is it the sound or animation or both?
I think like it does both fairly well maybe because it does fuckall damage to the body vs body armor

PAFF PAFF POCK POCK POCK POCK POCK

>CLANK
>hits nothing
Nice Doom game you got there

HL2 smg feels like shit. Its really a pea shooter. The pulse rifle isnt much better with its ridiculous low ammo count.

Always felt weak me to. Then again I am a shotgun fag.
I was never good at the game.

Ahem. I think you're forgetting something.

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and the hl2 pistol isnt? starter weapons in 'old' soloplayer fps games are almost universally bad

Artifact is better than Half-Life.

Hello Gordon!
I love the pistol from Blade Runner!

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Nah, in fact the Super Shotgun literally has the same problem, you have to be one foot from enemies to even hope of getting a one shot kill. With a fucking super shotgun

That's not Quake's starting shotgun.

whats insane is how they fucked this up so hard and yet made the grav gun pretty much perfectly.

I played HL1 after Hl2 and was floored by how much better the combat was in minute to minute gameplay

i remember the super shotgun being better , tought it might be because of the damage it did

Post satisfying weapons.

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Making a bad shotgun is a special kind of retarded.

it was the point. it was supposed to be a horror game so having a shotgun that actually works would hurt that

It's slightly better, but literally only because it fires twice as many bullets, still suffers the same spread issues

it's a billion million times worse though, since the guns do shit damage.

IIRC it actually has the damage of the Doom 2 SS but it's so spread out you basically have to use it as a melee weapon to be effective.

>Counter Strike General

hl2 pistol isn't even that bad
its just not fun to use and gets outclassed.

If you can aim it is fine. It is CS:S/GO all over again. People with zero skills calling good guns bad.

You can kill someone that way with the shitty pistol too as long as it's a headshot.

Bear killer from EYE. That was a damn good revolver.

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Make it stronger but give it less ammo. A shotgun doesnt have to be the first gun you get after the pistol. I know it seems to be a unwritten rule of fps.

>people completely drop the Pistol the instant they get any other weapon, i.e, shotguns or machineguns
>DOOM Eternal wisely ditches it and goes for Quake rules, straight to shotgun
>WOOOW WTF WHY DID U REMOVE THE PISTOL!!1
I don't get it

The Doom/Doom 2 pistol is so universally shitty that basically every map gives you a shotgun 10 ft from the level entrance just so you can use it as your default instead, and has the minigun use the pistol's ammo just so there's an actual use for that ammunition.

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not everyone here is a valve drone

>hl2 pistol isn't even that bad
It's terrible. It's not accurate, it doesn't sound good, there's no alternate fire option
It's awful, Gordon!

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That would make sense if it wasn't for the absolute beast of a plasma rifle and chaingun in the game, so clearly they had no problem putting effective weapons into the game, they just fucked the shotgun up bad.

Amen.
I remmeber first time I played Halo against a mate, he said he'd only use the pistol to keep the skill gap fair. I was under standard FPS logic of Pistol = Worst Gun. Boy, did not take long to figure out he was fucking with me with that.
Then I figured out the map, where he was camping, how to get in his blind spots and things levelled out.

at least you can hit something with it

Not only that, but the fact that even in vanilla, you are absolutely never lacking in ammo.
Fuck, I was at like the middle of Enpro Plant and already chock full of Plasma Rifle ammo.
>600 SMG rounds
>560 chaingun rounds
>105 rockets
>24 BFG cells
>none of the enemies except the Hell Knight are threatening
How was this supposed to be 'horror' again?

What the fuck were they thinking?

basically any sniper rifle in bo2

>HL1
>shit damage

and need i mention the grenade launcher

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borderlands 2 or black ops 2?

My aim isnt the problem. I spend my youth with UT and Q3. HL2 is piss easy. The pulse rifle has a higher dps if you can aim. The ammo count is still very low and the alternative fire mode is strong but gimmicky. The primary fire mode feels extremely unsatisfying to use. The shotgun, revolver and crossbow are fine in HL2. The devs want to force the players to use the gravity gun, thats why you can only carry small amounts of ammo.

HL2 is a game that requires no skill at all though

>How was this supposed to be 'horror' again?
Spooky imp jump out of closetx100

keeping the pistol basically useless and never used for the rest of the game rather than giving it some niche role so that it actually maintains its use for the rest of the game is a shit idea both then and now

>I played HL1 after Hl2 and was floored by how much better the combat was in minute to minute gameplay
Im preaching this since 2004 but it feels like the whole world around me is mad.

it is legit the best weapon in the game

Doom 3 is shit, just like Doom Eternal.

Doom 1 & 2016>>>>>>>Doom 3 & Eternal