Wtf happened to DOOM

The "tortanic meme" meme is worse than the tortanic meme by this point, you can't criticize any AAA game that shills pull it out.

Play it with infinite ammo on nightmare. So much more fun

welcome to the thread captain obvious, good thing you came in or else we wouldn't understand the point of complaining about drastically changing a franchise for normalfag pandering.

all of those things are true

You can criticize any game you like. Your criticisms, however, have absolutely zero bearing on whether or not a game will ultimately end up being successful. That's why fags shit up the board for weeks about how DOOM Eternal was going to be a failure because it had platforming and rainbow colors, and now they're dead quiet because they got assblasted.

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Maurader is not fun as a non boss and slows shit down. I don't care you read on reddit how to use the q key, he doesn't fit and is a major drag on the end campaign.

>muh drastically changed franchise
>muh childhood
You never owned stock in Doom, you never created anything worthwhile for Doom, you've never had any input at id. You don't even tangentially know anyone at id. What you think a franchise "should be," because you played it 25 years ago, means fucking nothing, especially in the face of the game's overwhelming success. Nigger.

counterpoint: People only care about doom because of crotchity old purist faggits like here. Your crowd will move onto the next pathetic fad in a week.

>I just fell into a hole and died and then I rage quitted out of the game to make this thread while crying and screaming
A thread died for this.

I hope it wasn’t a Stevechad thread.

Based, fuck op

>drastically changing a franchise
then why is doom3 always defended in these threads?
>but I don't
then don't post on an anonymous image board if you don't want to be generalised and clumped together

No, not really. Just finished the game on UV and it's pretty great, you can check the fitgirl repack (I know i did) if you don't wanna buy it and play the game instead of spending your time shitposting on Yas Forums.

Demonstrably false. If people only cared about DOOM because of "crotchety purists," you wouldn't see nearly the same financial success in terms of units moved. (Read: it surpassed 2016, which was a game that people on Yas Forums have been trying to shit on for four years.)

If people were going to "move on to the next fad in a week," then you wouldn't see such an incredibly high volume of memes, fan art, fan music covers, speed runs, the list goes on from 2016 until now. That's 1,460 days of people NOT moving on to the next thing.

Further counterpoint: look at Quake. That series is ONLY crotchety old purists, Sonic-level autismos who fucking graph strafe jump momentum charts using online mathematics tools, and their series is fucking DEAD. Even attempts at copycats like that shitty egg game Diabotical were fucking stillborn. Crotchety faggots have NEVER been a marker for success either.

Very nice bait, have my you kind sir!

Sales =/= Quality
Otherwise that would make The Holy Bible the highest quality book in human history

Is DOOM Eternal a fun FPS-Platformer?
Yes.

Is DE a spiritual successor to DOOM?
Not in the fucking slightest.

>it used to be about shooting shit and violence
This mentality is what led to the creation of Serious Sam and Painkiller. There's more to Doom than just shooting a bunch of enemies.

also, rly cartoony graphics

>violence
It wasnt ever about violence.

Shit opinion for pansies

Probably because you are.

THE LONGER THE ICON OF SIN IS ON EARTH, THE STRONGER HE WILL BECOME

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>returning games
what a fag

>the story is bad
This is true.

Seethe Eternal

Sales don't equal quality any more than opinions are subjective. Sales =/= quality is a fucking non-argument, a way to pretend like you're saying something insightful while at the same time backhandedly disparaging the thing in question, when you've basically said nothing at all. You absolute fucking buffoon. All you've basically told us is that YOU don't feel that DOOM Eternal is a worthy successor to Doom despite it being fun (and I hope you're enjoying that fencepost up your ass, you ginormous faggot), but millions of buyers would disagree with you.

>it used to be about shooting shit and violence
and keycard finding using your momentum to get to certain areas and finding secrets
thanks for letting me know the only other doom game you've played is doom 4

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youre not just autistic, youre bad at your only hobby. how does it feel to be such a cuck?

I've never heard anyone say the story was bad because it was shallow. If anything the story would have been better if it was more shallow like 2016's, instead of forcing all of this weird mystical fantasy bullshit and needlessly focusing on Doomguy's "backstory".

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>people fail to realize that opening day sales of a sequel have little to no bearing on a game's actual quality, if anything it's more of a vindication of the previous game's success and popularity.

The platforming and the "lore" are objectively awful. Still a great game however.

Except that if people didn't like the game the reviews would've been worse. Look at Wolfenstein: Youngblood. Yes, the alt-right did a lot of screeching about The New Colossus, but they didn't at all affect its Steam review score in the least. That game still did well and people still love it. People were likewise excited about Youngblood because of that pedigree, but that game was a fucking mess when it came out and people rightly shit on it. Now look at its score. So you can't say, "Oh, the opening day sales were all about the previous game's success and not the new game's quality," given that if people didn't feel a game were up to previous entries' standards they'd tank reviews to hell. Just like with Wolfenstein.

Keycard finding was always the shittiest part of Doom

I agree that the new story feels a bit excessive for what the game is. "Demons are invading Earth, you gotta stop em!" should ideally be the only story that a DOOM game has... but it doesn't really matter since all the cutscenes are skippable anyway.

>the alt-right
newfag this website calls them Yas Forumstards

REMINDER THAT THIS IS A BETHESDA GAME
REMINDER THAT BETHESDA HAS THE MOST AGGRESSIVE SHILLS ON Yas Forums

You forgot the Marauder pic

Can you lot finally admit Doom 3 & Resurrection of Evil was the best in the franchise.

>shittiest part of Doom
Just explore the level. You always get them naturally by just playing the game.
Unless you're playing doom 2's city levels

Posting in all caps makes you seem extremely desperate. Keep in mind that videogames are not serious business.

It's an id game you retard, also no one was shilling F76

>Shut up zoomer.
Apply to yourself, kiddo.

>linear, looping maps you explore at your own pace, opening new areas with keys
>set supply and enemy pool
>tons of secrets that aid you tremendously at best

Obviously the Xbox-generation homos like (You) have not even touched Doom 1 or 2 before, and keep sucking up Zenimax's STD-coated dicks.

having fucking platforming in a doom game is a fucking travesty. Having forced story sections to set up a backstory for a fucking male power fantasy is a fucking disgrace. Forcing the player to dash because your shit level designers put the access to the next section on the level in the most nonsensical place imaginable is annoying. Ill give you that running out of ammo is impossible unless youre a shitter but that shit has no place in a game like this. I shouldnt have to forcefully keep 8 fucking weapons on locked keybinds just because these retards think its fun to swap guns constantly

No, it was not. The games used to be about frantic exploration for survival.

story is irrelevant in doom, which is why all cutscenes are skippable. it's just there for the smoothbrains who want their games to be movies.

DOOM 3 is indeed a better "DOOM" game than 2016 and Eternal, but Eternal is a better game on all accounts.

2016 is shit and has been rendered entirely obsolete by Eternal.

What is 'survival horror' to you

>blaming the alt-right for Youngblood getting review bombed.

Mate...

>it used to be about violence
>now it's just about "violence XD"

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I think they just didn't crank it up enough. I'm assuming the main bulk of the story was supposed to be doomguy btfoing space gods by ruining everything with bbrr brrr and boom boom not caring about anything they have to say, like he did in 16, while they yell at him that "noooo you can't just shoot a hole into the surface of mars" and such but they just didn't deliver enough of this. If the whole story was just comprised of the NNOOOOO YOU CAN'T RUIN MY PLANERINO OF HELLINO DOMINEERINO it would've been perfect.

>it's just there for the smoothbrains who want their games to be movies.
You can still have a decent story for that. Instead they made it as shit as possible.
I dont care if it doesnt matter or not. Its still a flaw.

FPBP

How could they have added more of it? Doomguy slaughters all of the Hell Priest and kills the Khan Makyr, subsequently destroying the Makyr's homeworld.