>Mario >600 million games sold worldwide >9 Fighters
>Pokemon >300 million games sold worldwide >8 Fighters
>Zelda >100 million games sold worldwide >6 Fighters
Meanwhile... >Fire Emblem >only 15 million games sold worldwide >8 Fighters
Pokemon and Mario are impactful to the gaming world, they deserve to have lots of Fighters. Fire emblem is a niche franchise for weebs. So why the fuck did he think it was a good idea to add so many characters? Why are there more Fire Emblem Fighters then Legend of fucking Zelda?
It has made more money the last 2 years than any of those for Nintendo
Dylan Perry
Because Smash is a character based game, not a series based game. Series like Pokemon and Fire Emblem have a lot of characters in Smash because each new game introduces new characters. Meanwhile series like Zelda or Metroid only have a few because their games are about the same two or three characters in different stories.
Hudson Mitchell
Fire Emblem can keep its characters. In exchange, all other series get a minimum of three new reps.
Cope weebfag, LOZ haz Skull Kid, Tingle, Impa, Ghiriham etc.. that would Work better than your shitty bitty titty picks.
Nathaniel Hill
Splatoon, AC, and Kirby would deserve it The rest would not
Jayden Brooks
who cares go change your diapers
Juan Lee
that mobile game (or games? idk I don't care about mobile gacha shit) prints money user
Jayden Rodriguez
Smash has literally never cared about the number of faces on the select screen correlating to anything. If it did, we'd have to axe half the game, including everyone from games Smashfags love, like Mother. We'd also have to make sure 99% of the shit they constantly demand never gets in.
Owen Lewis
>FE New main cast of characters every game.
>Zelda Link Zelda Ganondorf and some other chucklefucks
Jason Robinson
>he sakurai does not decide who is in the roster you dumb fuckwit. nintendo wanted byleth in to promote their new FE game. cope and fucking seethe
Blake Martin
>DAMN SON! WII FIT BETTER GET A NEW CHARACTER Kill yourselves retards, none of you will ever have sex.
Matthew Cook
Literally every single Splatoon and AC character is the same so no, they don’t deserve more characters. Especially not Splatoon.
>image showing FE character crying >invariably used by anons crying about FE Something doesn't add up here
Ethan Taylor
The only justification of adding a non-playable character into Smash is if they’re a giant piece of the franchise like Ganondorf or Zelda. Adding shitbags who make one appearance and then get relegated to the realm of DeviantArt is a Gigawaste.
you don’t see Fire Emblem getting villains added in.
Jacob Hernandez
I've never played Fire Emblem but aren't there a bunch of different grunt classes/weapon types you can use on the field as filler for your army? How come they never added playable versions of those guys, since they represent the 'strategy' part of a strategy series?
>Meanwhile, Piranha Plant, ROB, Duck Hunt and G&W are in
Jayden Thompson
I agree, get rid of Sheik and add Tingle, Skull Kid and Impa.
Anthony Davis
>Be FE >Be niche until only a few years ago
GG
Carter Gomez
Ring Adventurer is getting in No, the whole idea of Fire Emblem is that it’s a strategy game where every unit is a real character and not just a commander + a legion of expendables. That’s why it’s sold 12 million games instead of 12 thousand games.
Justin Lee
Next Smash will have Mario, Luigi and Link the rest of the fighters will be FE characters.
Why do people pretend FE is that overrepresented when really, they just happen to benefit from the grandfather clause and easy to make clones? FE has one mainstay rep (Marth) and one contemporary rep (Roy, Ike, Robin, Corrin, Byleth). And the reason you have them all in Ult because one selling point was that everyone was here, so you have all these contemporary reps returning. And then you have a bunch of clones (Lucina, Chrom) and that's simply the benefit of a series with constantly changing main character. So all things considered, there is no overrepresentation.
Evan Watson
Smash 6 is going to have Roster Cuts and be down to Marth-Roy-Robin-Byleth. Check em for proof
I bet more people would recognize Tingle, Impa, and Skull Kid than they would any of the Fire Emblem characters before being added to Smash.
Lucas Powell
>several characters have been added before their games release because the creator likes the series Favouritism has caused over representation.
Jacob Cruz
It’s almost like Fire Emblem has had a boost in popularity over the past 10 years.
Adam James
Partly also because representation comes in other forms; Mother has two characters but several stages, and Zelda has a paltry number of characters but plenty of stages since Zelda is known for its locales more than its cast, contrast to FE which is the opposite.
Really wish we could get more interesting Zelda stages though. Imagine getting some iconic room straight from a dungeon--it could work brilliantly as an arrangement and be much more immersive than just another backdrop of the first area in the game.
Oliver Roberts
imagine crying over a nintendo party game you rosterfags are really pathetic
I will admit I bought 3 Houses just so I could find out who Byleth is And it was amazing. It’s almost as if Sakurai is trying to promote *good* games. Now I want to buy XC:DE to find out who Shulk is
Thomas King
It's funny that you think that. The latest pokemon game has already sold more than the entirety of the FE franchise. Super Mario Odyssey has sold almost 13 million units. Nearly trumping F's whole franchise with a single game. Breath of the wild alone has sold 18 million units. Beating out FE's whole franchise by 3 million units. They only way it made more money is simply because of FEH. Which is a mobile game whales will pump full of money and immediately drop once Nintendo makes another Mobile game of a different franchise that is at least half as good.
Ayden Ramirez
>lost of characters >Only puts in the lords of swords. Yeah sure.
Elijah Roberts
None of fire emblem characters are remarkable, memorable or unique from another swordsman next to them
Most Fire Emblem characters look so samey that when I look at this I think it's somewhere between Silas, Lukas, and anyone with blue hair, but never Byleth.
Dominic Bailey
Seething Snoy.
Isaac Young
Ring fit adventure character.
Juan Mitchell
Byleth is easily the best Fire Emblem character in smash. They could just cut it down to him and Robin and the essence of Fire Emblem would be preserved if not enhanced.
Luke Bennett
Imagine being proud of Gacha
Chase Foster
So? A mobile game made some money. That is nothing compared to Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon. They are what push the Nintendo brand as a whole, move consoles, and still make a lot of money in pure revenue. Heroes could make a billion dollars and it is still worth a lot less to Nintendo than those above 3. Nintendo's entire brand is built on the back of those three. >inb4 mad cope seethe cringe dilate tranny I didn't care about Byleth being in Smash and I still don't. I just want to call you an idiot for not understanding business.
Michael Cruz
Not the same franchise
Ayden Reyes
It should be at the absolute most Marth, Robin, Corrin, Byleth. Everyone else is a a copy of Marth. Yes even Ike and Corrin is a bad character but at least he ain't another fucking Marth. Deal with it
Gabriel Phillips
And yet all the FE characters are recognized as one-offs in the context of their franchise, with less demand than Zelda one-offs like Skull Kid or Midna.
Jonathan Wilson
Still made by Nintendo EAD. Serves the same purpose of using the console and it's functions as exercise equipment.
Parker Brown
Based smashfag. Which route did you play first?
Eli Torres
The key words are 'main character'
Aiden Wright
Okay, now explain why exactly so many individual Fire Emblem games require their own reps. Simply because they exist?
Jaxson Evans
If Fire Emblem has 8 characters then Mario has 16. Though I wouldn't expect someone posting fucking wojaks to post anything in good faith.
The one under the banner of Crest of Flames, I don’t want to look up the different routes because muh spoilers One question: Does agreeing to join with the Flame Emperor change the route?
Benjamin Hughes
>>Zelda Fighters You meant to say 3
John Reed
Is that your requirement? Fucking retard
William Reed
>Proceeds to post an incredibly disingenuous image himself
Isaiah Garcia
Sad thing is, Midna and Skull Kid are technically "Main characters" but they get no benefits from it. Neither did the 3H student lords but that would be too much work to be more than a jpeg
David Cooper
But you wrote "main cast," and I would argue both Skull Kid and Midna absolutely qualify for that in Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess, neither of those stories happen without them. Both are also better games than something like Fates
Liam Long
3 houses wasn't good though. Half the game is the same story that you are forced to play through every time you want to start a new playthrough. The other half is picking one of 4 sides and 3 of them are brain dead garbage. all paths that aren't Golden Deer The Graphics are a joke for the console. The background during speech and bonding events is just 1 Jpeg wrapped around the screen. You can see where it connects The main antagonist doesn't remotely have a good reason for doing what they did. And the only person worthy of being a Dancer isn't allowed to be one. She only teaches people how to be one.
Jack Morris
Reminder that Nintendo considers Byleth an iconic character.
>Does agreeing to join with the Flame Emperor change the route? At the Holy Tomb? If you have C+ support with Edelgard and talk to her after fusing with Sothis she will take you to her coronation and you can choose to side with her after defeating her in battle. BE is the only route with a split
Wyatt Green
Not even remotely similar. Link, Young Link and Toon Link are the main characters of every main Zelda game. If every Zelda game had a different playable character, I guarantee they’d all be in smash.
Carson Edwards
>FE keeps getting more characters >has yet to have a villain >Ultimate introduces echo characters >BK and Ike were trained by the same person and their swords are counterparts to each other Fuck it. Add him. Add another swordie. a blue haired one no less
Well not the FE comparison, but we never played Palutena or Isabelle had we? Why not add in another FE character over them then
Ryder Gray
Did you not realize that was the point? It's to illustrate how ridiculous it is.
Asher Allen
>mii has literally 3 characters that are the same >but fe having multiple characters, all with incredibly varied movesets is somehow bad anti-fetards are so stupid
>>only 15 million games sold worldwide Most of those sales have occurred in just the last 7 years. The series has been around for nearly 30 years. Of course they're going to capitalize on explosive growth.
Eli Wright
>FE >Varied moveset 5 of the 8 characters are Marth.
Jonathan Morris
The Miis don't have an actual case of nepotism or a committee backing them.
Julian Lopez
neither is arguing that alt costumes are the same thing as full characters
Jaxon Ward
You can remove any FE characters you want from Smash Ultimate. Who are they and why?
Noah Campbell
Lucina, Chrom, Corrin, Byleth, Roy
Adam Flores
literally not true but alright >The Miis don't have an actual case of nepotism >the mascot of 3 ninty consoles >debuted in smash for said consoles >not a case of nepotism ok
Austin Martin
>Mario E. Gadd, King Boo, Fawful >Pokemon Darkrai, Meowth, Clefairy echo. >Zelda Skull Kid, Ghirahim, Midna >DK Dixie, Cranky, Funky. >Kirby Marx, Dark Matter Swordsman, Bandana Waddle Dee >Animal Crossing Villager echo Tom Nook, with other various villagers as alts. >Wario Syrup, Mona, Ashley.
idk about the rest, and the only ones that need it now are Zelda and Kirby.
Logan Perry
Corrin is the ugliest one. Ike Lucina and Chrom can go. Marth Roy Robin and Byleth are the only ones who must stay
John Nguyen
iconic means others outside of fans would know who he is like Wario or Squidward, i guess this word is another one to lose it's meaning.
Hunter Brooks
Based AF argument as to why, Dr. Ivo Eggman Robotnik, should be in the game OP
Corrin, Byleth and Chrom Lucina is changed to an alt costume for Marth
Matthew Foster
Show me where the Miis got a character before their games released. Show me where the Miis overtook long-standing series with millions of sales in the span of one game.
William Jackson
Because, with each game having an entirely new cast, we run into the problem where just having Marth in Smash means that 12+ games aren't being represented. Even with 8 fighters, we still don't have fighters from 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 15, Warriors, TMS, etc.