Mario

>Mario
>600 million games sold worldwide
>9 Fighters

>Pokemon
>300 million games sold worldwide
>8 Fighters

>Zelda
>100 million games sold worldwide
>6 Fighters

Meanwhile...
>Fire Emblem
>only 15 million games sold worldwide
>8 Fighters


Pokemon and Mario are impactful to the gaming world, they deserve to have lots of Fighters. Fire emblem is a niche franchise for weebs. So why the fuck did he think it was a good idea to add so many characters? Why are there more Fire Emblem Fighters then Legend of fucking Zelda?

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It has made more money the last 2 years than any of those for Nintendo

Because Smash is a character based game, not a series based game. Series like Pokemon and Fire Emblem have a lot of characters in Smash because each new game introduces new characters. Meanwhile series like Zelda or Metroid only have a few because their games are about the same two or three characters in different stories.

Fire Emblem can keep its characters. In exchange, all other series get a minimum of three new reps.

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Cope weebfag, LOZ haz Skull Kid, Tingle, Impa, Ghiriham etc.. that would Work better than your shitty bitty titty picks.

Splatoon, AC, and Kirby would deserve it
The rest would not

who cares
go change your diapers

that mobile game (or games? idk I don't care about mobile gacha shit) prints money user

Smash has literally never cared about the number of faces on the select screen correlating to anything. If it did, we'd have to axe half the game, including everyone from games Smashfags love, like Mother. We'd also have to make sure 99% of the shit they constantly demand never gets in.

>FE
New main cast of characters every game.

>Zelda
Link Zelda Ganondorf and some other chucklefucks

>he
sakurai does not decide who is in the roster you dumb fuckwit. nintendo wanted byleth in to promote their new FE game. cope and fucking seethe

>DAMN SON! WII FIT BETTER GET A NEW CHARACTER
Kill yourselves retards, none of you will ever have sex.

Literally every single Splatoon and AC character is the same so no, they don’t deserve more characters. Especially not Splatoon.

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Anyone who uses "deserve" for Smash should kill themselves ASAP, no video game characters deserve anything.

>Fire Emblem
>Gacha
If you don’t know what we’re talking about then don’t feel like to you need to contribute to the discussion.

Reminder that Arms sold more than a bunch of other Nintendo IP's, including literally every FE game except 3 Houses

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Wii Fit U (Echo)
Balance Board
Wii Safety Man

That’s because it came out a few months after the launch of the Switch when people were desperate for a game.

>non-playable literally whos

Because Fire Emblem has new, named characters every game.

Mario reps every Mario game.
Link reps every Zelda game.

You can talk about visual similarities between the characters, but they are different characters and stand for different entries in the series.

Keeping this in mind, the only people who can really complain are Rexfags.

I hope to god that you aren’t actually recommending these and are just trying to be funny

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Nah. Next game will be smaller so FE will only have 5 reps.
Marth, Lucina, The new guy and Corrin.
Roy will be dlc

That image should be saved for smash 6.

>doesn’t play zelda

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>image showing FE character crying
>invariably used by anons crying about FE
Something doesn't add up here

The only justification of adding a non-playable character into Smash is if they’re a giant piece of the franchise like Ganondorf or Zelda. Adding shitbags who make one appearance and then get relegated to the realm of DeviantArt is a Gigawaste.

you don’t see Fire Emblem getting villains added in.

I've never played Fire Emblem but aren't there a bunch of different grunt classes/weapon types you can use on the field as filler for your army? How come they never added playable versions of those guys, since they represent the 'strategy' part of a strategy series?

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>Meanwhile, Piranha Plant, ROB, Duck Hunt and G&W are in

I agree, get rid of Sheik and add Tingle, Skull Kid and Impa.

>Be FE
>Be niche until only a few years ago

GG

Ring Adventurer is getting in
No, the whole idea of Fire Emblem is that it’s a strategy game where every unit is a real character and not just a commander + a legion of expendables. That’s why it’s sold 12 million games instead of 12 thousand games.

Next Smash will have Mario, Luigi and Link the rest of the fighters will be FE characters.

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Why do people pretend FE is that overrepresented when really, they just happen to benefit from the grandfather clause and easy to make clones?
FE has one mainstay rep (Marth) and one contemporary rep (Roy, Ike, Robin, Corrin, Byleth). And the reason you have them all in Ult because one selling point was that everyone was here, so you have all these contemporary reps returning. And then you have a bunch of clones (Lucina, Chrom) and that's simply the benefit of a series with constantly changing main character. So all things considered, there is no overrepresentation.

Smash 6 is going to have Roster Cuts and be down to Marth-Roy-Robin-Byleth.
Check em for proof

/thread

stupid OP.

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I bet more people would recognize Tingle, Impa, and Skull Kid than they would any of the Fire Emblem characters before being added to Smash.

>several characters have been added before their games release because the creator likes the series
Favouritism has caused over representation.

It’s almost like Fire Emblem has had a boost in popularity over the past 10 years.

Partly also because representation comes in other forms; Mother has two characters but several stages, and Zelda has a paltry number of characters but plenty of stages since Zelda is known for its locales more than its cast, contrast to FE which is the opposite.

Really wish we could get more interesting Zelda stages though. Imagine getting some iconic room straight from a dungeon--it could work brilliantly as an arrangement and be much more immersive than just another backdrop of the first area in the game.

imagine crying over a nintendo party game you rosterfags are really pathetic

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I will admit I bought 3 Houses just so I could find out who Byleth is
And it was amazing. It’s almost as if Sakurai is trying to promote *good* games.
Now I want to buy XC:DE to find out who Shulk is

It's funny that you think that.
The latest pokemon game has already sold more than the entirety of the FE franchise.
Super Mario Odyssey has sold almost 13 million units. Nearly trumping F's whole franchise with a single game.
Breath of the wild alone has sold 18 million units. Beating out FE's whole franchise by 3 million units.
They only way it made more money is simply because of FEH. Which is a mobile game whales will pump full of money and immediately drop once Nintendo makes another Mobile game of a different franchise that is at least half as good.

>lost of characters
>Only puts in the lords of swords.
Yeah sure.

None of fire emblem characters are remarkable, memorable or unique from another swordsman next to them

Cope

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Most Fire Emblem characters look so samey that when I look at this I think it's somewhere between Silas, Lukas, and anyone with blue hair, but never Byleth.

Seething Snoy.

Ring fit adventure character.

Byleth is easily the best Fire Emblem character in smash. They could just cut it down to him and Robin and the essence of Fire Emblem would be preserved if not enhanced.

Imagine being proud of Gacha

So? A mobile game made some money. That is nothing compared to Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon. They are what push the Nintendo brand as a whole, move consoles, and still make a lot of money in pure revenue. Heroes could make a billion dollars and it is still worth a lot less to Nintendo than those above 3. Nintendo's entire brand is built on the back of those three.
>inb4 mad cope seethe cringe dilate tranny
I didn't care about Byleth being in Smash and I still don't. I just want to call you an idiot for not understanding business.

Not the same franchise

It should be at the absolute most Marth, Robin, Corrin, Byleth.
Everyone else is a a copy of Marth. Yes even Ike and Corrin is a bad character but at least he ain't another fucking Marth. Deal with it

And yet all the FE characters are recognized as one-offs in the context of their franchise, with less demand than Zelda one-offs like Skull Kid or Midna.

Still made by Nintendo EAD.
Serves the same purpose of using the console and it's functions as exercise equipment.

Based smashfag. Which route did you play first?

The key words are 'main character'

Okay, now explain why exactly so many individual Fire Emblem games require their own reps. Simply because they exist?

If Fire Emblem has 8 characters then Mario has 16.
Though I wouldn't expect someone posting fucking wojaks to post anything in good faith.

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The one under the banner of Crest of Flames, I don’t want to look up the different routes because muh spoilers
One question: Does agreeing to join with the Flame Emperor change the route?

>>Zelda
Fighters
You meant to say 3

Is that your requirement? Fucking retard

>Proceeds to post an incredibly disingenuous image himself

Sad thing is, Midna and Skull Kid are technically "Main characters" but they get no benefits from it. Neither did the 3H student lords but that would be too much work to be more than a jpeg

But you wrote "main cast," and I would argue both Skull Kid and Midna absolutely qualify for that in Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess, neither of those stories happen without them. Both are also better games than something like Fates

3 houses wasn't good though.
Half the game is the same story that you are forced to play through every time you want to start a new playthrough.
The other half is picking one of 4 sides and 3 of them are brain dead garbage. all paths that aren't Golden Deer The Graphics are a joke for the console. The background during speech and bonding events is just 1 Jpeg wrapped around the screen. You can see where it connects The main antagonist doesn't remotely have a good reason for doing what they did. And the only person worthy of being a Dancer isn't allowed to be one. She only teaches people how to be one.

Reminder that Nintendo considers Byleth an iconic character.

Cope and seethe incel.

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Play the game, nerd.

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Better than "It has a Mii in it"

>Does agreeing to join with the Flame Emperor change the route?
At the Holy Tomb? If you have C+ support with Edelgard and talk to her after fusing with Sothis she will take you to her coronation and you can choose to side with her after defeating her in battle. BE is the only route with a split

Not even remotely similar. Link, Young Link and Toon Link are the main characters of every main Zelda game.
If every Zelda game had a different playable character, I guarantee they’d all be in smash.

>FE keeps getting more characters
>has yet to have a villain
>Ultimate introduces echo characters
>BK and Ike were trained by the same person and their swords are counterparts to each other
Fuck it. Add him. Add another swordie. a blue haired one no less

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>main character of its best selling game
pretty iconic

You don't play as each individual Koopaling, you play as the Clown Car

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Well not the FE comparison, but we never played Palutena or Isabelle had we? Why not add in another FE character over them then

Did you not realize that was the point? It's to illustrate how ridiculous it is.

>mii has literally 3 characters that are the same
>but fe having multiple characters, all with incredibly varied movesets is somehow bad
anti-fetards are so stupid

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Not an argument

>>only 15 million games sold worldwide
Most of those sales have occurred in just the last 7 years. The series has been around for nearly 30 years. Of course they're going to capitalize on explosive growth.

>FE
>Varied moveset
5 of the 8 characters are Marth.

The Miis don't have an actual case of nepotism or a committee backing them.

neither is arguing that alt costumes are the same thing as full characters

You can remove any FE characters you want from Smash Ultimate. Who are they and why?

Lucina, Chrom, Corrin, Byleth, Roy

literally not true but alright
>The Miis don't have an actual case of nepotism
>the mascot of 3 ninty consoles
>debuted in smash for said consoles
>not a case of nepotism
ok

>Mario
E. Gadd, King Boo, Fawful
>Pokemon
Darkrai, Meowth, Clefairy echo.
>Zelda
Skull Kid, Ghirahim, Midna
>DK
Dixie, Cranky, Funky.
>Kirby
Marx, Dark Matter Swordsman, Bandana Waddle Dee
>Animal Crossing
Villager echo Tom Nook, with other various villagers as alts.
>Wario
Syrup, Mona, Ashley.

idk about the rest, and the only ones that need it now are Zelda and Kirby.

Corrin is the ugliest one. Ike Lucina and Chrom can go.
Marth Roy Robin and Byleth are the only ones who must stay

iconic means others outside of fans would know who he is like Wario or Squidward, i guess this word is another one to lose it's meaning.

Based AF argument as to why, Dr. Ivo Eggman Robotnik, should be in the game OP

>171 million games sold worldwide
>1 fighter

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Corrin, Byleth and Chrom
Lucina is changed to an alt costume for Marth

Show me where the Miis got a character before their games released. Show me where the Miis overtook long-standing series with millions of sales in the span of one game.

Because, with each game having an entirely new cast, we run into the problem where just having Marth in Smash means that 12+ games aren't being represented. Even with 8 fighters, we still don't have fighters from 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 15, Warriors, TMS, etc.