I want you to post one good JRPG without:

Final Fantasy IV (japan, euro version). It has a few instances of friendship GOOD when characters kill or petrify themselfs for their friends.
It about a dark knight realising he is doing evil work and repenting, his king was replaced by a demon and was evil. Then his bestfriend betrays him since they love the same woman and the bad guy is a big mage knight wreaking the world so you have to go get him

Trials and Ys were non-stop shilled here with "Play her game!" threads, waifus is what they're shooting for.

Most Dragon Quest games avoid all these.

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Golden Sun

well, name one. XI was such a terrible waifufag game it soured my impression severely, but are the others worth it?

I was going to say FFXV but then I saw "good JRPG"

Dragon Quest III is the best jrpg ever made

well I'll have to assess that. Though best jrpg ever is not a high treshold. Is any version better than the others?

hows it compare to ff1 and ffIV

so was REmake2, now REmake3, and LITERALLY ANY OTHER FUCKING GAME WITH FEMALE CHARACTERS IN IT
retards on Yas Forums will post LOTS OF SHIT, I KNOW IT'S FUCKING CRAZY RIGHT
but not everything retards do, is indicative of the actual content of a game
try to keep this in mind, you're on a weeaboo imageboard website for coomer outcasts, of course anons will latch onto any decent looking female character and spam it to hell
do you think Animal Crossing is for the waifu audience because of furfags putting up constant Ankha threads? I'd hope not, the audience is kids, women, and fags

based
SNES with english patch is best
Much better than either of those, though if you had asked FFV or FFVI I would say better still but not by much

Romancing Saga Minstrel Song
Romancing Saga 2
Saga Frontier 2

Dark Souls

FFIX is more about the accepting of one's mortality and trying to make the most of one's place in the world than anything else. Reject the idea of being born solely for someone else's predetermined directive and do what you can to live life to the fullest.

Though "Friendship is good" is still an obvious underlying theme.

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I like VIII best, but III, IV, and V are also among the better games. And don't come bitching about how they're not "good" JRPGs.

The first Nier.

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Dragon Quest 3

I feel like I just did this, but...

>RELIGION BAD
>TECHNOLOGY BAD
They are. Technology is bad especially because it put your faggot ass in my face.
>FRIENDSHIP/LOVE GOOD
I imagine those things are too.
>300 year old loli party member
>waifu audience
Fuck off normalfag.

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Fire Emblem: Three Houses

I actually played Romancing SaGa to see what all the hubbub is about.

I pick the noble's son scenario. First impressions are not great. You are tasked by your father to clear out a monster-filled cave, which is literally a few steps away from the castle you live in. And your sister, who is to be married off to a prince, is somehow allowed to fight alongside you.
Okay, so the writing is a complete joke, but what about the combat? You have a party of 4 characters, yet you only ever face a single enemy during combat, and they are only capable of dealing 1 damage to you. Are you kidding me? This is even easier than utterly casual RPGs like Final Fantasy.

The other thing I notice is the complete lack of interactivity. There is no dialogue system, or ability to pickpocket NPCs or pick locks. Even jrpgs like Breath of Fire had non-combat skills.

Anyway, calamity ensues, monsters attack, and you end up escaping from the castle. It's here that the game presents you with the first choice. You can choose to fight the monsters, allow you sister to escape or be selfish and save yourself. Naturally, I reload to see the different outcomes and guess what? All three choices end with you escaping and the sister left behind. Your choices are literally meaningless.

Okay, whatever. You end up escaping to some port town. At the dock, there are three ships heading to three different destinations. Finally, the game opens up, right? Nope. No matter what ship you set sail on, a storm contrivedly causes you to shipwreck somewhere else.

It's here that I actually quit the game in disgust. Is this supposed to be a game or movie? I did eventually return to the game, continuing on and also trying out the other scenarios, but everything continued to insult my intelligence at every turn.

And this shit is supposed to be the greatest RPG series of all time, the bane of WRPG-kun? It's far below the quality of even your bogstandard jrpg.
I see. I'll consider that then.

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What’s the threshold for not having “friendship is good”? I mean it objectively is a good thing, are you wanting a game where the MC has no friends and goes solo the whole game?

Especially when a well-written sidekick is always objectively the best character in any form of media.

look, the point is that these cliches are staler than Chuck Norris jokes, and make JRPGs boring

nice copypasta there bruv

year old loli party member
>>waifu audience
those are good tho

This, also one of the best RPG series

>waifu audience
You could just say no female characters since we all know your retard definition of waifu is "anybody with a vagina".

We had this thread last week and you didn't play a single one of the games recommended

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>JRPG set in a Medieval world with a few steam engines
"Technology is bad."

>WRPG set in an apocalyptic universe where nuclear warheads obliterated our planet
"There is an expression in the Wasteland: "Old World Blues." It refers to those so obsessed with the past they can't see the present, much less the future, for what it is. They stare into the what-was, eyes like pilot lights, guttering and spent, as the realities of their world continue on around them. Science is a long, steady progression into the future. What may seem a sudden event often isn't felt for years, even centuries, to come. In the times following the Second Battle of Hoover Dam, however, Old World Blues took on a new meaning. Where once it was viewed as a form of sadness, nostalgia, it became an expression describing the potential for the future. It can be easy to see Science as evil, technology unchecked as the source of all ills, all misfortunes. With the Courier at the helm, Science became a beacon for the future. There was Old World Blues, and New World Hope. And hope ruled the day at Big MT. "

How funny that one of the best RPGS is one that isn't movieshit reliant on waifus and storytelling.

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Trails in the Sky

year old loli party member
guise the real question

what JRPGs have this

no

that guy was an impostor, he was just trolling

>WRPG set in an apocalyptic universe where nuclear warheads obliterated our planet
>apocalyptic universe where nuclear warheads obliterated our planet
>nuclear warheads obliterated our planet
technology bad already built into the setting

tl;dr technology is bad

Waifu audience. Next.

Chrono Trigger
Chrono Cross

I guess you never actually played CT..lol

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Hello brainlet.

what part of
>without:
>waifu audience
didn't you understand, moron?

I said Sky, not Coldsteel. You double faggot

How is XI a waifu game?
Just because the females are attractive ?

That's a lot of words to say "technology bad, but can be good."

they're not cliches, they're far too broad for that, there's a million and one ways to handle each of these separately and that's not even mentioning how they could co-exist and interact with each other. The significance can range from main story theme to vague impression. You're a fucking tastelet if you have to cling to "cliches" to try and refuse to see worth in anything that slightly resembles something else.

trick question, there are no good JRPGs

There
s no such thing. All Japanese games are shit. The only ones that aren't shit are meta games like Yakuza but you really need to be a reddit tier normie to enjoy those.

>I said Sky
yes, and?

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Hello consoomer faggot that doesn't care about the environment

nigger

There are entire cutscenes dedicated to the waifus talking about their feelings. That alone puts the game right in the dumpster.

>Estelle, Tita, Renne
Shut up retard

parasite eve
hybrid heaven
live a live
shut up and jam gaiden
mario`s rpgs in general

>several females designed to appeal to porn addicts
>join your party and worship the pathetic bland protagonist because?
Nope, not a waifu game at all...

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Hello retarded strawman from brainlet who can't read.

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>good JRPG

maybe they just aren't for you then? You sound like a kid who just discovered tv tropes or something. Why don't you go get RPG maker and blow our minds with your shitty idea for a deconstruction.

Pokemon Gen 1 and 2. Also:

>FRIENDSHIP/LOVE GOOD
Not possible unless it's a JRPG you have a one man party.

>Waifu audience
Only possible if there are no females in the game.

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I just wish they'd try be a bit more creative. 99.99% of jrpgs involves saving the world from being destroyed by someone who might technically not be a god, but has enough power to annihilate all of existence. It hardly matters if Lavos, Kefka, Yaldaboth, or whatever are not gods, when they have god-like power and the story is about stopping them from ending the life of every human being on earth.
Contrast that with wrpgs, where most of the time, the scale of the story is much smaller and rarely if ever involves the fate of the world.
>Baldur's Gate: you prevent Sarevok from engineering a war between Baldur's Gate and Amn
>Jagged Alliance 2: you overthrow the dictator of a small third-world country (the story of Jagged Alliance 1 is even more mundane)
>Planescape: Torment: you end your cursed existence as an immortal and go to hell for your misdeeds
>Bloodlines: you change the political climate of Los Angeles' vampire community
Even the few wrpgs that have a world-threatening story subvert it: in Kotor 2 Nihilus' threat to the galaxy is a misdirection for the true antagonist, Kreia's plan to destroy the Force.

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