Notoriously unplayable piece of shit game is actually a solid albeit uninspired and derivative experience

If you're willing to pick up and play Shadow for one playthrough, sure, you might have a good time. But if you actually have a good time, you'd probably want to try to keep playing, and in trying to get the true ending you WILL come to hate the game for the myriad of fundamentally ruinous design decisions you attempted to handwave away. When the best experience you can possibly have with a game is playing through it once (in a game intended to be played 10+ times) and stopping because it was okay, not great, that's not really a game worth defending. But yes it's not as bad as Heroes or 06 or anything.

If you played a Ratchet and Clank game you would not accept how unfun Shadow is to play.

I fucking hate Sonic games but I unironically like this because of outrageously dumb it is. The worst part of the game is that it still used the garbage Sonic 3D engine.

If it's unplayable how did I complete it?

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>Spore

Played both
Loved both

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If you're including heroes then you have to include shadow.

>I often wonder how tf they even marketed or sold the game at all with how jank it was
LOOK! You know Mario 64?? Well now Sonic is 3D too! It'll be just as fun, promise. Check out this footage! *quick cut of scripted parts of Sonic levels* Whooa!! Cool!!!!!

Let me guess, one playthrough straight to the end?

Shadow is a passably mediocre game with okay gun-play mechanics that becomes one of the most infuriating unfun things imaginable when you start going for it's absolutely awfully designed missions.

This game was never a piece of shit. People just rightfully hated that there is no fucking level select. This REALLY does hold back the game because of how the endings work.

100% this
literal retard

Mario 64 looks like Jumping Flash compared to Kino Adventure.
There, I said it N64 nostalgiatards. Your first videogame isn't as good as you remember it.

Doesn't Amy act like a Shadowfag at the true ending credits?

I remember the multiplayer being a ton of fun

She spams softcore Shadow porn and BDSM on /sthg/ and types the most disgusting thing she can think of?

Heroes is fine for one playthrough it's only serious fault is forcing you to play the same stages 4 times to get the true ending.
Shadow is guilty of the same thing.

lol you braindead retard
that is the bets sonic game till date

Say what you will about the gameplay, but Sa1 kicks the everloving shit out of Mario 64 when it comes to presentation

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STILL the best 3D Sonic.

>exhilirating day missions that reward skill and replay with incredible speed and scenery
>cool night stages that combine good old acrobatic 3D platforming with satisfying and tactile combat that evolves as you play
>detailed hub worlds with fleshed out NPCs who all have their own little stories to follow and side quests to tackle
>story that nails the perfect balance between Colors' lightheartedness and Shadow's tryhard edge and is consequently one of the best plots in the series
>amazing visuals that have yet to be surpassed over a decade later
>kickass music and charming sound design (stand near buildings to hear what's going on inside them)
>a metric fuckton of content and collectibles
>hasn't been ported endlessly and thus remains special

It was soul incarnate and will never be topped

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In the Japanese version, she says "Come on, there's no need to worry. He's immortal, after all!" But this is the only thing she says, unless you mean the boss battle dialogue?

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Only needed more cameos like Generations

>He's immortal, after all
Didn't the writers realize how retroactively retarded this makes Maria's sacrifice?
>best 3D sonic
>isn't sa2

It's more the concept of the game I find objectionable as opposed to the execution. Gameplay wise it's just an average 3D Sonic game with some occasionally godawful design decisions (Shadow moves like he's on ice, the dumbass missions where you have to kill like 80 aliens and there are EXACTLY 80, the repetitive generic unmemorable music etc.) That's not really what I take issue with.

However, swearing and gunplay just have NO place in this franchise, and neither do the absurd plot themes and pseudo "mature" tone that permeates throughout. It is LAUGHABLE and almost offensively at odds with everything the series had established up to that point.

I just cannot fathom how any boardroom meeting can have taken place where these decisions were made and everyone thought it was a good idea.

I'm glad to read this. I picked it up cheap on ps2 recently but I need a new controller to play it

>he bought ps2 unleashed
user...

He shoulda gotten the wii one. Based and blessed versions of the game with the overworld bullshit cut.

Yeah some of the missions are retarded, you're right. Still the game wasn't terrible. And it was way better than 2006

Can't wait for the fandub of it desu

I’m 200 routes in and I’m still having a good time. I think it would’ve been much better received if Expert Mode was available from the start as “Classic Mode” or something.

>200 routes in

I'm sorry, you are actually autistic. I usually say this as a joke or as a half hearted insult, but on this occasion I am deadly serious. You are on the autistic spectrum.

Literally no normal person tolerates Shadow the Hedgehog for more than perhaps one or two playthroughs, let alone 200. By my count that's at least 400 hours you've spent playing it. That's not 'having a good time'. That's obsession.

I would wager that after every play session you continue to think about Shadow. You DREAM about Shadow, gleefully planning out your next run as you fall asleep. "Ooh, maybe I'll do the Pure Evil path from Circus Park this time" you titter to yourself with anticipation before opening up your folder of Shadow porn.

This is not normal behaviour. Seek help.

If you haven't done all 326 routes, then you can't call yourself a true Sonic fan, let alone a true gamer.

Actually, I am diagnosed with autism. But I don’t dream about the game, I just check from the in-game checklist to see which routes I haven’t completed yet.

At least you got neutered, yes?
Subhumans like you aren't supposed to breed.

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Not him but I dream about Amy and fucking her.

I can't believe this game actually gets shit for having too much content in it.

I don’t see how enjoying a game enough to want to complete it 100% is the same as owning bedsheets and pornography.

As much as people rag on the guns they work really well and having a long range weapon in a sonic game just works

Westopolis has just as solid as an opening presentation as City Escape.

The problem with Westopolis is that you're forced to play through Westopolis at minimum 10 times to get to the final final boss.

>Didn't the writers realize how retroactively retarded this makes Maria's sacrifice?
If they did, Shadow the Hedgehog wouldn't exist as a game.

You are barely able to think, so I doubt you'll be able to understand this, but if you somehow convince a woman to let you insert your penis inside of her you will pass on your mentally impaired DNA. This is very bad, as autism is a serious illness that ought to be eradicated from the gene pool.
I hope you know get why you should have your balls cut off.

Here’s how I would “fix” Shadow.
>make the different routes available from different exits instead of having to kill every enemy. So more like Cosmic Fall or Lava Shelter
>allow the player to restart a route from any completed level to avoid having to replay the same level 10 times

Sperging out over people liking things you don’t like doesn’t make you look too good either, pal.

Immortality =/= invulnerability user.
Not that it matters anyway.

Unironically one of the best parts was how every route had its own edgy name that sounds straight out of a prog rock album.
>Ego Dyed In Black
>Faith without Falsehood
>Moon of Atonement

Id play SA1 over M64 any day, its more fun

>Heroes
You absolute fucktard. Enjoy having supremely shit taste. Holy fuck what a retarded take.

In the context of that cutscene, Amy is basically referring to invulnerability since she's responding to Rouge wondering if Shadow survived the battle. So either the writers are retarded, or Amy is retarded, not knowing that Shadow is only immortal when it comes to aging, and the writers accounted for that. Both are likely possibilites.

>Heroes
K I L L Y O U R S E L F

>how jank it was
I still don't get what the fuck people mean when they say this. An early 6th gen game looked and felt like an early 6th gen game. It was easy to market because it looked fun and it was Sonic. What's confusing here?

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Based. My favourite was
>Coffin of Memories

Black Knight plays poorly but has a lot of heart. Shadow is fucking garbage.