Baldur's Gate 2 companions by usefulness

>Edwin, Korgan, Sarevok
>Anomen, Keldorn
>Aerie, Imoen, Nalia
>Jaheira, Jan, Minsc
>Haer'dalis, Mazzy, Valygar, Viconia
>Cernd

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Mazzy and Minsc are both way above Nalia.

your first time using meme text?

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I'd put Minsc, Viconia, and Sarevok up a level. Sarevok is in a league of his own.

Edwin is at least as good as Sarevok.

>Nalia
Shitty version of Imoen. Even more suboptimal leveling and worse ability scores than Imoen. Pretty much same character, but worse. At least with Imoen you have someone to act as a charisma character to get lower prices from shops if you don't use Keldorn. Point of getting her is the same point as getting Imoen. Except she can do way less since she has less points in her thief skills. Jan Jansen is better than her for that purpose. Though his stats aren't as good, he still level both thief and illusionist classes so he can remain useful in both roles. Should be dropped a couple of levels. Do not take her.
>Imoen
Very useful. Not much for pickpocket or anything like that. But she has everything you need to detect penises on potential waifus and lockpicking. Anything extra can be gotten potions. Great wizard. Only lacks level 9 spells. Up one.
>Edwin
Edwin's only redeeming quality is level 9 spells. You can take Imoen and use the expansion pack machine to give Imoen or Nalia an extra int point. That means either one of them can replace Edwin. That's also assuming you're not playing a properly optimized and properly rolled Charname wizard/sorc (probably doing solo in that case with cheese+summon spam so you don't even need a party) or kensai/mage (by time you have enough levels in wizard, you don't need a party either). In which case, you don't need Edwin and you outdo him in every way. Overrated for all purposes other than filling in the wizard roll for a party that needs one that can get level 9 spells. Given that a generic playthrough that's not solo sorc or kensai/mage needs a wizard, he should probably stay where he is.
>Viconia
Great character if you don't want to be a goodfag and take Anomen. Anomen's cleric level is pointless if you don't goodfag. She is a great backline cleric. Just give her a sling and some armor. Then have her cast. You can compensate for low con with items if you even need it. Should be moved up a couple levels.

I usually play a caster so I don't end up using him, but I agree he can be great to fill that role.

Its incredibly easy to cheese this game, companions dont matter

>Jan
Is a fairly strong character in spite of relatively low stats. Can cope for low dex with the fact that he still gets thief levels and can bump stats every level. Good supporting mage. Though if you use Imoen, you don't need him. Up one.
>Valygar, Minsc
Up one. He's a good archer and a better Ranger than Minsc will ever be. Can actually use the castings from Ranger. Comparable to Minsc on the frontline as well. More strength bonus from minsc. However, more AC bonus on Valy. But you probably want the ranger for a second line DPS character anyways. Swap him and Minsc. If you're going the goodfag route, he's better than Minsc if you even want to use a ranger.
>No Yoshimo
Yoshimo is an incredibly useful replacement for Imoen, even better than the subpart Nalia, when it comes to filling in that thief role. There's actually a way to use him all game. You can find it on the wiki. Best thief in the game. Especially if you go fighter/thief.

>Point of getting her is the same point as getting Imoen
???
You get Nalia way earlier.

There are more ways to use "point" than one.

>yoshimo
Isnt thief single class completely useless unless you cheese traps?

why is viconia so low here? you can raise her wisdom to 21 if you take her through bg1

It doesn't matter anyway, since he dies halfway through.

You could alternatively spend twice as much time micromanaging a thief as the entire rest of your party and abuse backstab. No idea why anyone would put themselves through this though.

She's not a very good frontline fighter compared to her competition, which is what clerics are great at. Takes a long ass time to build her up to where her buffs compensate for how low her melee stats are.

meant for

Nalia is better than Imoen. Use potions and rings to get her thieving up. I finished a play through recently with Nalia and Imoen in the same party and Nalia was able to stay a level ahead of her the entire time. Imoen is grossly overrated. Furthermore, Nalia has more STR and won't be weighed down by everything like stick-arms Imoen

Viconia has 19 dex and pleny of Wisdom, she's also a good romance. Better than whiney Anomen.
Imoen can detect traps, open locks, and throw down some spells. What more do you need? Just have a thief with maxxed pickpocket waiting in town when you need stuff.

>Disarming traps and picking locks
It's either him, Jan, or Nalia. Only two of those can function as a thief. So there's only two options, Jan or Yoshimo. Nalia is pretty much just a wizard with a few thousand xp points wasted in thief. Can't even function properly as one for most of the game. Never will be a thief. Just an option for wizard. If you plan on using a temp thief until you get Imoen, Jan and Yoshi are you only options if charname is not a thief.

Other advantages of Nalia
>Not forced into the plot with retcons like Imoen
>Has a real voice actress (Grey DeLisle)
>Has character development and a new voiceset in Throne of Bhaal

You're not very good at Baldurs gate 8f you can't make a character drink a potion or wear a ring to do thieving. And Jan levels up slowly.

You don't get to import companion stats through games. Only main character stats.

You still get an inferior thief to either character. Nalia is a wizard with wasted thief levels.

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Viconia is a whiny bitch always whining about being on the surface. I laugh when Valygar or Keldorn carve her up like a turkey. Anomen has an actual front-line melee presence, can get multiple attacks a turn, can use DUHM and Righteous Magic and Holy Might more effectively than Viconia can, and levels up just as fast as her.

Nalia can perform all thieving functions with potions, rings, and knock.

>implying nalia and viconia are the same voice actor

>wasting spell slots on knock

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They do. Look it up.
Rushing spellhold is the most s o i and micro-brain thing that you can do

Am I the only one that hates all the default party members and just does the single-multiplayer thing with custom party members?

Edwin's amulet makes him a superior wizard to the PC no matter how you build it. If you want a pure caster, he is literally hands down the best option in the game unless you're adding in mod gear better than his amulet.

She is the worst thief but she still can manage to do the job which is really all that matters. I would still much rather take her over Yoshimo since you still have to handicap his thief talents to ever turn him into a decent fighter. I wish there was a multiclass option other than Jan.

Probably. Which rpg does have a good companion cast according to you?

Baldur's Gate 1, Planescape Torment

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Viconia is the only cleric option for an evil party and with the abundance of str items her main drawback is easily negated. The girdle of fortitude negates the other. After that shes an overstated magic resistant cleric that is easily the match of Anomen if not better given how powerful magic resist is late game.

Haer'dalis is also useful to an evil party as he's one of the few options that can fill up a group pre-Sarevok. Most evil parties will find themselves taking him by default as the 6th option until ToB just because he's solid filler.

Cernd is pondscum

>Edwin, Keldorn
>Anomen, Aerie
>Viconia, Jan, Nalia, Imoen, Sarevok
>Korgan, Mazzy, Jaheira, Haer'Dalis
>Cernd, Valygar

Wheres minsc dog?

BG1 companions might as well be custom characters since their only personality is their voice lines.

I'm sorry, but Valygar is just plain better than Minsc

>Sarevok S
Death attacks are nice.

>Korgan S
Berserker is a very good class, and he has 19 con and dwarf saves.

>Edwin S
A PC sorcerer or wild mage (if you want to go there) can still be better, especially since he can't use the amulet of power for maximum cast speed. But he's still a very strong NPC.

>Keldorn S
Absolutely broken class. Probably the most powerful NPC for that reason alone.

>Anomen A
Fighter/cleric is nice, although he would be a lot better with 9 levels in fighter. Still the best cleric NPC.

>Jan A
T/I is a very good class although complicated to use to its full potential. His stun gun is pretty good. His armour is broken if you put it on a F/T although you can do that without having him in your party.

>Imoen A
Pretty convenient and mages are always OP.

>The B list (they function just fine, but they don't have IMBA classes or broken special abilties)
Aerie, Nalia, Mazzy, Minsc, Jaheira, Valygar, Viconia

Viconia is decent, but single-class cleric is just bad compared to dual or multi. Anomen can do good damage and can potentially get grand mastery. Having high wisdom is not that important because you don't need that many cleric spells anyway (and wis only gives you a few extra). However she does have MR which you can abuse in some situations.

>C
C is for Cernd

>Keldorn S-

Only because without mods you can't get him to dump his stupid bitch wife and hook up with a Bhallspawn young enough to be his daughter.

On second thought I would put Jaheira as A-tier. Multiclass fighters are just good. Insect swarm is also a very imba spell.

Also I forgot Haer'Dalis. He is kind of meh in vanilla, but he does have illegal ** in short swords. Unmodded this won't give you an extra 1/2 APR although it says it will (a bug?). But there is a tweaks anthology component which fixes this. With that, he's a better blade than the PC can ever be, and blades are not bad.

How is using traps more cheesy than some of the spells or Items? As long as you don't abuse them by placing it around neutrals before aggroing them in some spots they are fine.
Use any item HLA is fun and useful as well even though it comes later.
Also backstabbing is great for instagibbing some enemies

Fun fact. If you wait a very long time to get Haer'Dalis (like past underdark) then he will also have ++ in long swords

I just kill the slavers in the copper coronet and give Yoshimo the Tuigan bow for mindless 3 APR thief use

I tried Wasteland and the world i was in was pathetic. How can I immerse myself in something like that. How is baldurs hate?

>having a hard time with draconis, have retried like a dozen times
>sarevok lands a deathbringer attack

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Shitty game and shitty story.
All companion are Really poor written.
Only usefull campanion is mage because you have some skill.
Fighter are just auto attack Who thx rtwp gameplay...

Thx god the only true baldur gates will come soon...

Why isnt aerie S tier? She can timestop and harm.

2/10 see me after class

Well that's a nice meme when you have like 6 million experience. Or you can do it a few times with scrolls. But it doesn't work against a lot of enemies. She's still not amazing for most of the game. Also SCS nerfs harm and there is very little challenge to the game without SCS anyway. I mean, if you're not playing with SCS then you can break every encounter in the game in like fifty different ways.

Scs nerfs inquistor as well. Does that make the class useless?

What about Dorn, Rasaad, Neera, Hexxat, and Wilson?

>everyone putting Jaheira that low
Wat? She's fucking invincible thanks to Iron Skins, only a cleric/ranger PC can do better and that's because of a bug.

SCS doesn't nerf inquisitor that hard, so what are you getting at? Do you have a cleric/mage boner? With or without SCS, it's not that great for most of the game.

Dorn is strong in Baldur's Gate 1, but he's also frail as fuck for a frontliner. He also levels up as slow as shit because he's a paladin. Never tried him out in Bg2, because the first thing he wants to do is murder the order of the radiant heart. I heard that's possible for him to attack or turn on you in Throne of Bhaal, and that he can also redeem himself and become a Fallen Blackguard (read:shitty), that loses all of his abilities.

Neera is strong, as all specialist mages are. I don't use her, though, because I hate her voiceset, I hate how intrusive she is (she gets a cutscene in Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 that break up gameplay), and her wild surges in battle are a pain in the ass. I try to reload as minimally as possible, and using Neera results in my gold vanishing from a wild surge a little bit too much for my liking.

Rasaad sucks in Baldur's Gate 1, and I only do his quest for a cursed 19 STR belt that I give to a frontline character like Ajantis. He's mediocre in siege of dragonspear, and finally starts becoming good in Bg2. He has a personality conflict with Sarevok, which I think is a good thing, NPC conflicts are good. I feel sorry for him, his endings usually end up with him getting brutally murdered and his tormentor getting away with everything.

Hexxat has awful writing, but a flavorful and strong kit. She fills a necessary niche for evil parties, but her quests are shit. Whoever wrote her clearly thought that she was cooler than she actually was. Also, she gets very buggy if you decide to murder her after she drains Clara (as any neutral or good party should do). Sadly there are no mechanics for staking her, and her gaseous cloud kind of just sticks around, missed opportunity for good aligned parties. Out of all the characters in Baldur's Gate, a Bhaalspawn has the least reason to team up with a vampire that just murdered one of your party members in front of you.

Wilson is a joke.

Rasaad>Dorn>Neera>Hexxat>Wilson

Not him, but in my setups of SCS, I disable the component that reduces the effectiveness of Inquisitor dispel magic. As far as I'm concerned, a mod should stay as close to the original game experience as possible, and the inquisitor should not be nerfed. Buffing a class like Wizard Slayer so ranged attacks miscast magic, or the shapeshifter actually gets real greater werewolf bonuses is fine.

People put her low because of the grueling experience requirements to get a druid from level 13 to level 15, which is not helped at all by her multiclass

Yeah, I usually choose the "medium" option (1.5x level), but I don't usually play with an inquisitor anyway.