Why is she the most deployed?
Why is she the most deployed?
Ryan Johnson
Nathan Hernandez
Because hat
Andrew Cruz
Why is she the most deployed?
Joshua Perry
>one of the best mages in the game
>one of the best dancers in the game
>fapbait
Joseph Wilson
>>one of the best mages in the game
Only her spell list is good, otherwise she is trash and Hanneman is superior in every way
Carter Rodriguez
She's Edelgard, but submissive.
Carter Morgan
Dorothea is my wife.
Chase Williams
..............................????????????????????
Dominic Turner
She's outclasssed by many in both regards. As a Dancer, Yuri is the fucking GOAT thanks to his relic and better physical growths.
Aaron Myers
Nips like her because muh idol.
Austin Jones
She's real easy to recruit and can be romanced by both Byleths.
Cameron Williams
She's really easy to recruit. I just accidently did it on my first run.
Gavin Wilson
Or Petra because of sword avoid
Easton Hall
It's a retard. Pay them no mind. I like Dorothea's spell pool more than Lynhardt/Manuela.
Jace Lee
She's the female Ignatz in terms of recruitment, in the most popular house for being the first choice, and on top of that decent unit, not good just decent.
Lincoln Young
I mean she zapped everything in my game and was fine. I'm not sure what better than running around killing everything from several tiles back is.
As a matter of fact I don't understand that with most units since 80% of them can kill anything. "Better" seems so subjective.
Jeremiah Carter
>Sensai, help me learn swordsmanship
Bentley James
In my experience, Hanneman is only good for nuking people with meteor because of his abysmal speed. How is he better than her?
Kevin Martin
Sorry but today is your lesson on riding.
Henry Smith
Casuals love thots who knew
Ryan Taylor
Better really isn't subjective, though. Growths and how accessible classes are play an important roll. If there are characters that have a better magic growth or a better spell list, why bother with her?
Brayden Taylor
Compared to Lorenz she has worse growths across the board for example who isn't a very popular mage. Compared to Hanneman, they both have Thoron and Meteor but Hanneman has better growths in every stat except SPD and CHA. There are no "bad" units in 3H but Dorothea doesn't have anything over Hanneman or any of your other units competing for a deployment slot unless you're playing BE or want 4 Meteor uses
Landon Gomez
>part of the most advertised house
>stays with you on both CF and SS
>very easy to recruit, even if you aren't trying to
>jack-of-all-trades spell list makes her very easy to slot into a team
>people (mistakenly) think she's a good dancer because of her backstory
>fapbait
Luis Phillips
She's one of the 2 good mages that the Empire gets, has a passive good for non-low turn runs and, unlike the other good mage, has easy access to healing spells.
Daniel Reed
Because if two people kill unit dead I'm picking the one with a cute hat, duh.
Cameron James
Xavier Ward
What about her white/healing magic, how does that compare to Hanneman?
Isaac Lopez
Warlock Hanneman also gives you more Meteors and better damage output for the exact same mobility.
Ethan Thomas
Shes pretty much the default dancer and is easy to recruit. It fits her background the best and the game more or less encourages you to make her one. The fact she gets a unique model for dancer also just shows even more and her having proficiency for swords. Dancers are one of the best units types in the franchise and often players will deploy their Dancer by default in any game. She also doesn't get some of the big support spells like Rescue or Warp (units with those spells should not be Dancers).
tl;dr: She is pretty much the default Dancer and Dancer's are incredibly good.
Well she was still the most deployed even before Yuri was added to the game. I would agree that she is mostly average as a Mage but the utility is nice to have when she becomes a Dancer.
Jason Lopez
Healers only need to be in a healing class to be decent at healing.
Thomas Adams
Probably because she's one of the easiest to recruit and is the most popular choice for Dancer. I can't imagine it has anything to do with her being popular since she's not the type to click with waifufags.
Carter Brooks
Good growths of course
Julian Clark
>The fact she gets a unique model for dancer
Does she?
Easton Williams
It's less that it's unique and more that dancer is considered a canon class for her, so she keeps her monastery look while in it instead of switching to the generic outfit.
Nolan Brooks
She has Physic, He has Recover and Ward. She wins in that regard
Aiden Morales
When playing maddening you're going to load all your mages with healing spells
Jace Thompson
I've played maddening and there's a difference between someone with a healing spell and someone dedicated to healing. That difference is whether or not they are a healing class with the flat + to healing passive.
Liam Kelly
>she was a singer in her backstory so that must mean she's the best dancer in the game
I guess Alois is a god-tier mage because he wanted to learn magic in one of his supports.
Chase Phillips
Bruh this doesn't make any sense
Jayden Lopez
It's the exact same thing, thinking something is good mechanically based on story details. Lorenz never shuts up about how great nobles are, so I guess Noble must be his best class.
Tyler Sanders
I want to make Dorothea a mother.
Owen Walker
Use the proper image next time.
Angel Rivera
Bentley Flores
Thats not Ferdinand
Nathan Myers
She likes guys and girls
Xavier Nguyen
You actually do. Dorothea is one of the 5 or 6 girls that give Byleth kids
Michael Reed
Got it.
Sebastian Morales
>finish exploring
yeah no, I think I'll be exploring for a long, long time
Joseph Fisher
>one of the best mages in the game
She's not even the best in her own route.
-Hubert is the second best offensive mage in the game.
-Linhardt has is a better white mage/support mage than her.
Her only true niche over them is if you want a Siege Tome user, and Hanneman shits on her in that regard.
She's a jack of all trades, master of none.
>one of the best dancers in the game
Player Phase units with utility are the worst Dancers.
-Dancers should be spending their turn dancing, and that means she isn't doing her other job.
-She can't help out during enemy phase either because she's made of tissue paper.
-Because of this, she also can't dance in precarious position like a bulky dancer
-Doesn't even have a horse boon to gain Move+1 earlier.
The best dancers are:
-Bulky(or extremely evasive) Enemy Phase combatants with an underwhelming player phase, preferably with a Horse Boon.
Dorothea is dreadful in that role.
Funnily enough, Dimitri is actually one of the better dancers because he's such a powerful unit on enemy phase that giving up his enemy phase is not too bad a loss, and he excels at everything that is helpful for a dancer.
In Maddening, she ain't doubling much of anything, and Hanneman outpunches her easily in terms of Thorons and Meteors. The only thing she actually has over him is Physic.
Gavin Peterson
>because he's such a powerful unit on enemy phase that giving up his enemy phase is not too bad a loss
That was supposed to be "giving up his player phase", oops.
Dylan Ortiz
Are enemy stats buffed that much in Maddening? I haven't played it myself but I was going to do it next. The only advice I've seen is that Ignatz is good for Maddening because of rally speed, but I won't be playing GD or recruiting him.
Christopher Edwards
>Are enemy stats buffed that much in Maddening?
You will be getting doubled by default in the first mock battle against the other classes.
Christopher Bennett
Yes, what route will you play? If Blue lions know that Ingrid is the key to victory
Julian Bennett
tbf, Lorenz has the growths of a tank mageknight, something Dorothea isn't going to do. Not a thing many units can pull off unless you're memeing them into an armor class for level ups not just the innate gain or memeing Raphael or Dedeu into a mage.
Ian Price
Okay i'm on the verge of getting three houses, is it good? Is there anything i should know about it before playing?
Liam Murphy
That sounds horrid. I'm guessing the strat is to load up on 1-2 range weapons or mages and chip people, then pull 1 at a time with my dedicated tank?
Yeah, I'll be doing NG Blue Lions. My planned recruits were Caspar for his paralogue, Marianne as an off-healer and wife, and Ferdinand because I like him. I was thinking of going for Lysithea/Lorenz too to have a better mage than Annette, and Petra just so I don't have to deal with her later and since I'd already be raising up riding for Marianne.
I have access to the ashen wolves, but I feel like I'd be cheating using them for a NG playthrough.
Juan Wilson
Because she’s cute and a pleb, royalty ppl are just boring, cute or not.
Juan Hall
Pilfer these Black Eagles students: Lorenz, Dorothea, Bernadetta. Join Blue or Yellow house, steal the other houses full roster. You're set.
Mason Perry
> Hubert is the second best offensive mage in the game.
Third.
Lysithea -> Constance -> Hubert
Jacob Sullivan
lorenz does join edelgard post-timeskip on the blue lions route, but I wouldn't call him a black eagle over it
Lucas Brooks
Dorothea has a functional base speed of 4(7-3 from her lightest tome).
In Maddening, She's slow enough to get doubled by about half the cast in the first mock battle, and Chapter 2(the Kostas map) has every physical enemy rock between 9-14 speed, the only unit that doesn't double Dorothea is a Nosferatu Priest.
Her situation barely improves from this, she usually will be getting doubled, and the one enemy type she will double(Armor Knights and Fortress Knights) is so slow that Hanneman, Mr. 20% Speed Growth, doubles them as well.
Tyler Morris
after playing the game several times i think i can feel like dorothea is the least desirable magic user that should be a magic user in the first place.
Kayden Davis
there is so much wrong with this i dont even know where to start
enjoy playing more on normal casual i guess
Julian Watson
That's fair, I wasn't considering DLC.
What Makes Constance better than Hubert, though?
Brayden Roberts
>Constance
Constance is so weak early though, she will never double anything save fortress knights on maddening and her early spell list is so bad. It needed to be Thunder > Thoron > Fimbu > Bolting > Agneas so that she could have her niche of slow as fuck player phase 1 shot machine.
She's a liability for so long.
Chase Myers
whats wrong about it?
well first give you somewhere to start, what makes her one of the best mages when her magic growth is 40%, which is very low for alot of the mage characters she's competing with.