Deus Ex 1 is the best stealth game of all time. Change my mind
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How, its fucking garbage in stealth mechanics
nah cause i dont rly give a fuck
>That line of dialogue
>Hong Kong background
Evidence of someone who watched 2 minute snippets of Deus Ex on youtube before making a 'really fucking epic meme'.
Sorry can't hear you over my GEP gun explosions.
I love Deus Ex but you're a fucking fool if you think its stealth is any good, it's functional at best.
Yea, whatever, NERD
*stuffs you into a locker*
Nah, sly 2 is better cracker box
Play Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, that'll probably do it.
>implying it wasnt done this way intentionally to trigger faggots like you
I was content to remain anonymous, but I'd just like to say that I in fact created the meme in the OP, just to spite niggers like you. Get fucked, dude.
Yeah, I'm sure that's why you did it. Retard. Keep telling yourself that.
>shoot dart next to guard
>he stares at it for 15 seconds
>bhop right behind him without him noticing
SEETHing. Lmao
pic related will always be the greatest stealth game of all time, it took everything that worked in other games that came before it and perfected it.
Thief 1 and 2 still are better, dont lie. That is a hard, a REAL hard #3 though. It has all the good stuff it needs, but nothing that sets it on the same level as Thief 1 and 2 overall.
Agreed.
Thief represents the embodiment of stealth gameplay mechanics. From sound to light.
It also oozes with atmosphere. It's a dark surreal steampunk breathing world. Yeah the NPCs nowadays are rough around the edges but everything else is just in a higher realm.
The looting, the strategies, ghosting those superb level designs, the details in the architectures, the damn sound design. The work on that sound design. Just wow. It still sends chills down my spine just thinking about it.
Thief Gold is my favorite game of all time... I decided this in 2012 when the credits rolled and I revisited in my mind what I went through.
It can be contemplative, challenging if you want, most of all it is absolutely engrossing and profound. Nothing beats the immersion of levels such as "The Sword" and "The Cathedral" or the one level in the opera. Superb. Love it. Download it. Do me a favor and play it.
Play 1 and 2, play FM levels, play Thief. Thief is love and life.
Not the best stealth game but the best RPG.
Best stealth:
>Thief 2, even if you think Thief 1 better, 2 goes all in on the stealth while 1 obviously had moments of hesitation
>Chaos Theory
>Thief 1
>Hitman Blood Money, as different as social stealth is
>The Dark Mod
Thief 2 is best gameplay, Thief 1 is best atmosphere, but it was clear they didnt know if they wanted pure thievery, or some dungeon diver. That list is very based though, im glad you recognize Hitman isnt a normal stealth but should be considered.
I genuinely have never understood the hating on DX1's stealth. That's how I always play it and I have no real issues with it. Sneak up behind people and stun them, or sneak past if you can but that's more risky. Pretty standard FPS sneaking stuff. Then you get the really open environments on top of that which allow you to be creative about it.
Sure bro
try actually playing the game
>>Thief 2 is best gameplay, Thief 1 is best atmosphere, but it was clear they didnt know if they wanted pure thievery, or some dungeon diver.
It's painfully obvious several levels were not meant to be sneaked through. I can't imagine sneaking what the objective when they designed the bonehoard, the lost city or the first cathedral. Even then the combat is bad enough that sneaking seems the priority.
>you recognize Hitman isnt a normal stealth but should be considered.
It is still stealth by definition. I'm surprised no non-indie studio besides IO tried their hands at this. After all, social stealth is much more common than the ghost operator thing.
Eventhough they are objectivly shit stealth, I love Bonehoard and shit like that, especially lost city, because its kinda nice to just explore some spooky tombs and shit. If the combat was better, it could have worked as a game with a nice mix of stealth/thievery and dungeoneering. But the combat is aids, and stealth is the focus the entire time.
No... not yet.
14 years later and it's still the best stealth game ever.
>hitscan no bullet drop tranq gun
No. But its really good.
>bullet drop
Not a single game has done this correctly
but MGS3 its an instant hitscan thats perfect. even MGS2 had delay, MGS3 tranq hits the target from 1 foot or 1000 miles.
It's probably my favorite game of all time, but it's a fucking terrible stealth game.
You can crawl right in front of an NPC and they take like 8 seconds to even react, and their reaction is to run five feet away, turn around, maybe take their gun out, say "I think he's a cop!" and then just wander around - and by this point you've either headshotted them or crawled your way into a completely different room that they won't follow you into.
After the NSF portion there's no real incentive to go stealth, and the AI is so poor that you should just run and gun. What's great about Deus Ex is how it rewards you for exploring, and using those rewards to dispatch enemies in whatever way you see fit. Crawling around and baton-ing legs to unconsciousness has to be the least fun of the absurd amount of options you're given.
>play splinter cell chaos theory
The game feels like it was made in 1995, the mechanics feels so old otherwise it would be good
Are there any worthwhile mods for it that modernize it a bit?
>modernize it
For what fucking purpose? Stealth is shit, always was in Deus Ex 1, rest of the game is solid as fuck.
>he thinks its a stealth game
I just mean something to spice up the graphics a bit.
Sadly I dont think theres one that is faithful enough and looks like shit. Gonna have to wait for someone to do one of those AI upscales and retouches for something good. Game really doesnt look bad though, its crisp, clean, and the faces are detailed enough its not just a walking polygon like my favorite Thiefs.
I present to you the best stealth game ever
Found this
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Gonna give it a whirl.
>game flat out tells you that you are invisible when lightgem is pure black
>its pure black
Working as intended. That said I wont say that Thief is some masterpiece of AI.
seething
This game has shit stealth mechanics, no.
>Revision
user stop. That was one of the shit ones I was talking about.
what the FUCk. what the FUCK. oh my GOD i hate thief now!!! jesus!!!! damn user you sure convinced me.... guess its time to ANNIHILATE my hard drive with all the thief gog installers on them... wow... holy shit... i didnt think it was THIS bad... wow.... you have changed my mind for sure....
It's too late. This is happening.
>Deus Ex 1 is the best stealth game
whats funny is that Warren Spector made Deus Ex to prove that you can do stealth and shooting combined in a game, cuz he didnt like stealth only approach of thief
I hope this isnt your first time playing because this isnt even a graphical upgrade, it changes tons of shit and makes it worse.
If its a second playthrough, whatever. have fun.
There is no way to change nostalgia fags, keep pretending garbage is good
Why is Warren a genius and retard at the same time? For everytime he has a great idea, he also has a rather shit one.
Played it a million years ago but never finished it. Gonna do a full playthrough this time.
I feel that half the retards praising Deus Ex haven't even played it and only mention it because it's "redpilled"
Manhunt
stealth really doesnt need complexity, just polish.
i have, my favorite thing about deus ex was that you could blow up and break doors, not all, but most i think, that was fr*cking cool
maybe nu-Yas Forums but Deus Ex 1 is part of the Yas Forums holy trinity of PC games. With Thief 2 and SS2.
This seems like a really silly and insignificant thing to be so emotionally worked up over.
I played it before you were ever hear champ.
I played it 11 years ago and I'm re-playing it right now bitch.
Though I do have a list of complaints, it's nowhere near the masterpiece some people say.
>high difficulties are retardedly designed
>gunplay feels awful
>story railroads you too much (compared to the best western RPGs of the time)
>half the dialogue seems to be written by someone with autism
It's overall really good though and you're a bitch if you disagree.
>stealth
lolno
one of my favorite games of all time, but trying to stealth just sounds painful
>gunplay awful
Its an RPG not an FPS. Its like System Shock 2.
It's called a masterpiece because the openness of it's gameplay and the reactivity, not because of combat.
dumb retard not knowing this
No ones ever like "OMG the gunplay and stealth is amazing!"