>make the best and most believable black characters in the entire genre >not just for diversity sake; actual characters that fit in their universe >relegate them to comical relief, despite being the most likeable/relatable characters in their respective games
Why does Square Enix do this? Sazh and barrets backstories and character types don't even fit the comical role. They both have serious and dramatic motivations and goals for what they do. Yet they are the punching bags of their respective games.
Except for seeing his child, Barret was always the niggerest nigger. Sazh was oreo as fuck.
Kayden James
Barret was not always a mean, alpha type leader. Yes he always acted "black" but before shinra literally genocided his home, he was a kind, caring man. Hell he's still caring, just very abrasive because he's jaded.
I'm other words, he earned his niggerdom
Ian Bell
>if you don't act like a typical nigger then you are an oreo
black people are naturally amusing, over exaggerated, and goofy to civilized peoples
Luke Russell
Why does Square Enix do this? Japan doesn't like blacks.
Josiah Reed
>peoples >"over" exaggerated Seems like you're also a nigger, based on your English skills
Jordan Robinson
You maybe right not why would they craft such greatly written characters with good backstories then?
William Perry
But*
Josiah Butler
Barrett wasn’t really comic relief, every character in that game has comedic moments
Owen Roberts
"peoples" is entirely legitimate english, you dumbfuck ESL poster. why do you niggers always pretend like you actually understand how to speak the language?
Jonathan Wilson
Because they want to and can. There's nothing wrong with having a more diverse looking cast. Not everything should exist to pander to some demographic.
Peoples is only used when directly referring to or discussing different ethnic groups of a certain region, you fucking Neanderthal. In the sentence that you used, civilized people would be correct, not civilized peoples.
I'm sorry that you're an ignorant retard.
Lucas Harris
>"peoples" is entirely legitimate english Not in that context
Just fuck off away from using fancy words if you don’t know how to use them. It’s that simple.
Caleb Foster
For me it's worse with sazh, he's so believable and relate-able that he really clashes with the rest of the cast.
Michael Gomez
His usage is completely correct, you autist. "Peoples" is correct it's talking about a plurality of ethnic groups.
Gabriel Powell
Because they're actually attempting diversity from the outside without having to deal with the petty identity politics that occur on the inside, which mostly are more about dominance than diversity
Lincoln Edwards
Hey, murkans aren't ESL. They just happen to speak an ebonics-english pidgin and don't entirely understand plain english any more.
Michael King
No he's not, dumbass. Why are there so many retards on here?
Peoples (Noun) - plural of people (“race, group or nationality”) Civilized peoples is technically correct but clunky as shit and not normally used that way.
James Cox
Yes, he is. The meaning was pretty clear to anyone without autism.
Hunter Sanchez
imagine giving a shit you white guilt loser i'm black btw
Kayden Collins
>so he was only referring to people from one particular region? He doesn't necessarily have to because that's just a restriction you made in your mind, but it can easily apply to just America where there's a bunch of races from all around the world.
Alexander Rodriguez
Black dudes are usually pretty humor-centric in their interactions, regardless of if they momma dead or they pops in jail or they ain't got no skrilla, so why shouldn't they be that way in games? Never met any grimdark black dudes.
Ryder Smith
Anyone defending the peoples guy is a dumbass lmao. Unless he was specifically only referring to certain people, and not all civilized people, then he's just a retard, trying to sound intelligent.
>Barret >Smart >Cares about the environment >Cares about his kids >Realistic Black character Lmao OP clearly lives in a gated community
Sebastian Allen
Black people are jokes. Why would they be in any role outside of comic relief?
Bentley Brown
It's not his kid though. He's a cuck
Adam Baker
He was very obviously referring to various ethnicities. This was clear to anyone who doesn't have an autistic fit whenever he sees a word used in a way that requires some thought.
Dominic Rogers
Nobody says persons or peoples anymore, anyway. No idea why that guy wanted to sound like a 19th century industrialist
Tyler Ortiz
t. Changsect with 3 inch penis
Julian Baker
"civilized people" is one group. Please stop being retarded
Samuel Phillips
if you want to emphasize the disparate ethnicity of humans living on earth, civilised peoples is a legitimate use of the word. the image you posted seems to agree
Brayden Taylor
Shut the fuck up autistic niggers, the civilised peoples of the world don't have to abide by your narrow and arbitrary guidelines for English
He clearly wasn’t given the retarded grammar in the rest of his post.
>This was clear to anyone who doesn't have an autistic fit whenever he sees a word used in a way that requires some thought. Says the autist defending a stranger on the internet to this extent
Bentley Bennett
true, which is why he used peoples
Leo Torres
Yeah he was too good for that game.
Kevin Sanders
Yes, that is correct but that's not what the original retard was doing. He wasn't comparing anyone. His usage of the word was totally unnecessary and just makes him come off as a retarded pseudo intellectual
Christopher Brown
>what kind of weapons would blacks use in final Fantasy? >just give them guns like any nigger in the hood uses and call it a day Bravo, Square.
Easton Allen
Persons is still used when you need to talk about various individuals rather than a group, for example in a legal context.
And "civilized peoples" are various groups, what don't you understand?
Alexander Adams
GOT YOUR REALISTICAL BLACK CHARACTER RIGHT ERE BOY
Where did you get the idea that "peoples" must refer to a specific group or region? To the contrary, it may sound odd (although, while uncommon in general speech, it is really not that uncommon outside of that), but you can say something to the effect of "the African peoples", or, in his instance, "civilized peoples", if referring to a plurality of groups. You wouldn't say "the Chinese peoples" (there are some instances where this makes sense, but I digress), you would say "the Chinese people". You're probably thinking of "civilized people" in the sense of referring to "individual people who are civilized", whereas his usage means "groups who are civilized". He is clearly excluding blacks as a "group who is civilized" in doing so.
Henry Mitchell
Or maybe that faggot should just improve his English skills?
Elijah Wilson
you're all brown peoples, not even an identity just an amalgamation. By your logic you're already dead
Jose Baker
Civilized peoples is unnecessary because there's no comparison or distinction being made, you fucking idiot. If they are all "civilized" then they are all under one description. Thus, it's people, not peoples.
Levi Rivera
>for example in a legal context. Okay but you just come across as a pretentious fag using it here
Alexander Thompson
>the retarded grammar He made no grammatical mistakes, only graphical ones.
>Says the autist defending a stranger on the internet to this extent no u
I feel like at least for Sahz it’s a double subversion of expectation.
At first you aren’t thinking he’s a comic relief character, once you get used to it his arc comes to a very dramatic climax, then after it heads right back into the comic relief. I feel they used it as a more of a character trait with Sahz where they are trying to show what a dad he’s trying to be in almost every way.
I’m just glad that he got a happy ending in 13-1, couldn’t care less about the other two games though.
Xavier Lee
I've been confronted with this a lot and it's very,very tiresome. "Why you act white?", "Oh look,a prude who doesn't say nigga or gangsta rap quotes in every sentence",etc...
>Or maybe that faggot should just improve his English skills? But you and all of the other people critiquing his use of the word "peoples" have already demonstrated you have a lesser, more base-level understanding of English.
Leo Hall
>Civilized peoples is unnecessary because there's no comparison or distinction being made It's not, because it's talking about ethnic groups. The guy was talking about races.
Justin Barnes
But it’s not how English is usually used. I clearly have a far deeper understanding of the language than he does even if I don’t know all the fancy words in it
Oliver Ward
You're literally contradicting yourself, you fucking retard.
"African peoples" CAN BE correct because, like I said, there are multiple groups of people on that continent. But it depends on what you're DISCUSSING.
If you are referring to all persons on Africa, with no distinction, it is the African PEOPLE. If you are discussing the many different groups of persons on the African continent, it is the African peoples. It's all about context.
The original nigger was not making any distinctions. He was just referring to people in the civilized world. Peoples is incorrect.
Kayden Gomez
No because there are civilised and uncivilised peoples. For example Germans French Japanese Italians are civilised, Blacks Sandmonkeys and Slavoids are uncivilised peoples
>no tattoos >good looking dreads >decent looking Eh, could be worse.
Jacob Howard
Calling Sazh a comic relief is taking it a bit far. He's goofy, but he's not a comic relief.
Isaiah Bennett
>oreo Funny for me it was Bounty
Lucas Wood
Same, it's pretty strange that acting like a normal person and not being obnoxious makes you "white"
Jason Perry
Probably comes with the fact that they're a character first and a nigger second.
Wyatt Long
Even if what you're saying is true, it's still people. He is declaring them all the same, under civilized. He is not making a distinction. That makes it people, not peoples.
If we differentiated the use of people and peoples, solely based on race, then we would use it everyday, in common everyday conversations.
But we don't and for a reason, you stupid nigger
Justin Sanchez
if someone used peoples to refer to humanity, i would get the impression that they’re being somewhat overly inclusive by emphasising the disparate ethnicity of humanity. it’s basically a shorthand for ‘all the different races/ethnicities in the world’. it doesn’t have to be used only in the context of comparisons
Jaxson Clark
nypa nigger
Jacob Wright
And the group of people in the former category are one PEOPLE in that category.
Nigger, when you see a group of Americans walking down the street and there are multiple people of different races, do you say people or peoples? Exactly, that's because you're not making A DISTINCTION.
Isaac Harris
Your point rests on "peoples" only being appropriate when making a distinction (which isn't actually genuine criteria for the use of the word, but whatever), but even then, the phrase "civilized peoples" is inherently exclusionary (differentiating between civilized and non-civilized peoples), and particularly given the context of his post and the discussion at hand (speaking about blacks), to anybody who speaks English on a first-language basis, it's obviously making the distinction between "civilized peoples (or "groups")" and "non-civilized peoples (or "groups")" (given the content/context of his post, blacks). Context in English is important.
Benjamin Thomas
Go back to Rebbit kike
Xavier Sullivan
Clowns and/or buff father figures are the only black people Japanese devs know how to make.
Show me 3 actual black characters (none of that ambiguously brown nonsense) that aren’t super jacked and look like their in their 40s
Owen Watson
What? No they aren't you neurotic faggot. They are different peoples who are civilised, thus, civilised peoples. They aren't the same group of people. Your analogy even is retarded because no Nigger Americans and White Americans are obviously not the same people. Learn English again
Gabriel Nelson
>He is declaring them all the same, under civilized. He's obviously not considering he's talking about racial differences.
>Nigger, when you see a group of Americans walking down the street and there are multiple people of different races, do you say people or peoples? If you saw them at a racial friendship rally (????) you could easily say something like "the peoples of America have come together".
Luke Hernandez
crab in a bucket mentality, they want to take you down with them because in their mind if you become a successful black person you'll contribuite to white society
Nathaniel Russell
Doc Louis?
Tyler Johnson
lol im not the one calling you an uncle tom when you dont act like a nigger OP its your fellow blacks.
Josiah Reyes
I feel you : they expect us to be like the clonws everyone sees on TV or in the movies. Ditto with every chinese who's supposed to be a mix between Jet Li,Jackie Chan or Bruce Lee.
Benjamin James
sazh is probably my most favorite final fantasy character, i was sad that he was not really a main main character compared to someone like light, but it was to be expected, just like wwe was very reluctant to award any black man the whc title when wcw was celebrating AKAFAROOQ in the 80s
Jacob Perez
I'm frankly starting to believe this, man.
Robert Lee
>Doc Louis? Father figure in his 40s. I want a actual attractive black character from Japanese devs
