Fix this fucking franchise

Make like Q1 i.e. occult dark castles and shit, make it more melee focused but crossbow that shoots nails, magic ranged attacks, and bombs are okay.

Sonic Mayhem/Frontline Assembly made better Quake soundtracks than NIN.

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Quake was just a worse Doom even when it was new. Not worth digging back up today.

Straight sequel to Quake 1

You're welcome

>No pickups
>Loadouts
>TDM only
There's 100 games like this, why ruin Quake?

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>how to ruin quake

turn it into the RPG it was originally supposed to be
or just make it doom but with bunnyhopping and lovecraft monsters

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Maybe.But all we need is industrial and rock shit.Not a wuub wuub trash like nudoom

Sign me up

the only thing anyone gives a shit about is strafe jumping and the weapons. everything else people just pretend to care about.

quake is such an odd series
aside from gameplay, the only 2 games that feel related are 2 and 4 and neither are quake
and it's not even it's original concept like it was supposed to be, if they wanted to finally fucking make that game would it be quake or something else?

You know it would actually be easier to fix Daikatana because there was an idea behind it.
Masters of Doom stated Quake was based on nothing because Romero was dicking about reason why Quake 2 is no one's favorite FPS and why Carmack decided Quake 3 would be an MP game.

Doom 2016 and Eternal are literally what a successful quake game with fast gameplay would be like because but I take no one on Yas Forums played Doom 2016 multiplayer or Quake Champions for that matter.

You could also play resistance fall of man instead, it is a better Quake 2 / Half -life game plot wise and there is a lot of TECHNOLOGY involved in those games.

2 was supposed to be something else entirely, but they slapped Quake nametag onto it so it would sell.

More Strogg focus, fuck Niggerman nerd retards the grotesque cybernetic aesthetic the Strogg have is kino.

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Still pisses me off that Carmack NEVER brought back the style of Q1.

I would much rather have an Hexen remake.
Hexen I & II are so good.
Not a fan of Heretic, it is too bland. Change my mind

And Quake 1 wasn't even supposed to be a shooter.

Its the same shit as DOOM but worse

Resistance is hot garbage.

Quake was eldritch all the way through, DOOM was hell and demons, it had a reality bending eldritch underpinning the whole damn way.

That's stupid popular and would make for a great soft reboot like DOOM.

I would enjoy if they brought back the original vision for Quake. RPG, Thor like character, Norse Myth world. But i imagine the Boomers would hate it

Strogg killed Quake, fuck that whole universe, gay af

strogg is generic garbage

Maybe we could combine that and slipgate

You mean Adrian Carmack and Quake was the result of no one knowing what to do because John Carmack never thought of hiring a fucking Project manager but neither did Romero when he founded Ion Storm.

I mean Tom Hall was the only guy at Id with a vague idea on how to elaborate design documents, I think they axed him too early, I still think it sucks he was not credited on Doom, I mean I understand. One of my favorite maps on Doom 2 was based on a Tom Hall level and Dopefish keeps appearing in plenty of other games to this day.

I said fix the franchise not atomize its corpse

I'm a zoomer and even I hate it

No DOOM is focused on MUH RIP AN TEAR ECKS DEE with cringy fake hell shit. Quake 4 was kino sci-fi about an alien menace.

stop saying fucking kino

Nah.Rather make new franchise with this elements than put that in new quake

Quake 4 was the Doom 3 of Quake, except instead of amazing lightning enginge, it had the stroggification cutscene as it's saving grace.

I still find the Tom Hall story depressingly funny. Carmack brothers and Romero have this badass idea for a DnD campaign in an FPS setting butchering demons with zero fucks to give about the plot.
Tom Hall
>Muh Commander Keen
>What about the story?
>Romero and Carmack yeet his ass and don't credit him in the original DOS of Doom
>Was on the receiving end of Carmack's infamous "Story in a game is like story in a porno"
At least Hall made Triad i guess. And he was a VA in Deus Ex

>fake hell shit

The concept was John's, he can't, the whole eldritch Lovecraftian thing in Quake was entirely his, with him gone they went back to their Metallica/Megadeth demon thing and dipped gently into Mad Max Biker Boy Thong Chaps with RAGE.

Fun story John gave me a key after I returned RAGE due to shit optimization on AMD, he had fixed it and saw me bitch on a site and emailed me, so I got to finish it.

>quake
>bunnyhopping

Please kill yourself.

>Resistance is hot garbage.
youtube.com/watch?v=FV9K7D7HYi0
Whatever floats your boat but I disagree.

>Quake was eldritch all the way through
Ha no, one team was working on basically Doom 3 and another on something like Strife and the result was Quake and the plot was really elaborated as an excuse as to why the two were connected, there are really just TWO boss fights in the entire game and Shub-Niggurath was never mentioned again reason why Quake 2 is about LOL ALIENS.

It was a miracle Quake was completed at all, it was practically made by a skeleton crew on crunch mode. Quake was the reason Carmack had it with Romero.

The irony is that Romero produced Hexen, and Hexen II is what a successful Daikatana would had been like.

i know, which is why neither are quake
i mean, if you wanted to make a sequel to the 2/4 games would you call it quake or not? at least some franchises had the sense to make spin-off series which would avoid this mess
nowadays the rpg thing is just trivia, it was a concept. we don't know what it would have been like and so even if that gets made no one can really say it's the game we never got, it's like trying to remake something that wasn't made in the first place. if only we could see where that path might have lead us though, it would be amazing to see even though quake 1 turned out so well

Commander Keen was some gay shit story wise. Did Tom Hall have Peter Pan syndrome?

You'e a fucking retard. Eternal worked fine for Doom, which was never a serious game despite what zoomers keep saying, but Quake should be treated a little more seriously. It needs a spooky atmosphere and otherworldly lore.

Go fuck yourself it's much better than that mario bung bung wahoo

It doesn't need to be fixed, just play Quake Live. It's essentially perfect as-is.

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You mean Romero right? If that was the case than i don't know why that would have stopped Carmack. Romero's idea was a time traveler warrior guy going through time periods no? Which lead into Daikatana

Unironically just optimize Champions' performance and netcode and at least let the players who bought the game host their own servers because it would be a really good game without those issues.

I think Tom Hall just hated money.

Quake 3 Team Arena remastered

I want Strife to make a comeback myself.

It literally just needs some fucking love, and Bethesda did Champions fucking dirty with the atrocious team they had working on it.

With how fantastic the art direction and music is in Doom, they've clearly shown you can do a gothic, grimdark, sci-fi shooter and have it sell.

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Quake 4 was unironically the best game in the series. Want to know why? Because they got rid of glitch hopping, which is the FPS equivalent of the wavedashing cancer in Melee.

It's shit, I played it, and I'm glad that garbage ended, such a dumb series, dropped it hot after I played some of 2 and returned it.

>blah blah blah
Yeah everyone knows the story, I was playing DOOM on shareware back when it was distributed, it was Romero and his vision was eldritch, you utter retard.

He succeeded on the back of a talented team to be sure, he created a fantastic game with a fully Lovecraftian theme throughout, something no one at id related to.

We won't see a Quake sequel for this reason.

no it wasn't. quake was a response to doom. the only reason doom got as popular as it did was because of multiplayer

>Music is in Doom
C'mon man only industrial and rock will go my blood pumping than this

Mдa yж, вeчнaя пepeзaгpyзкa Quake 5, oн кaк Doom

Romero's idea was Lovecraftian, there was a serious struggle over that element and it lead to a lot of tortured scenarios fleshed out by a small crew. They succeeded, somehow, but a lot of the RPG elements and expanded horror story were cut, idsoftware don't play that shit until, you know, 2016.

Tom Hall is like Weird Al Yankovic and has his style but it is not very mainstream and the Id guys were edgy as fuck. John Carmack porn quote was not something that should be taken literally because the context was that Tom Hall was trying to impress Carmack and tried very hard to find his place in the new Id. If he had simply dicked around with the engine like Carmack wanted, he would had remained at Id but he was terrified of Carmack and tried to go on about all this military documents and sci-fy story for the game which eventually was worked into Doom 3, 2016 and Eternal.

I mean really, just read the Doom Bible and then start a new game in Doom 3.

Rise of the Triad shows that he had some really good ideas but at the end, much like Romero, he was not a proficient whiz kid like Carmack and thus their inability to code and implement doomed them, much like how Id eventually lost against the technology fight against Valve (Hl2 vs Doom 3) not to mention story driven games like SS2, Deus Ex and HL were much more compelling. Deus EX is fucking ugly and it is still fucking great.

But without Tom Hall neither Wolf 3D nor Doom would have had secrets and exploration is one of my favorite things to do in both games.

In your dreams.My quake series stopped on Quake 1

Swear to Christ if you talk about Quake 2/4 multiplayer in any context except things you throw in the trash we're going to have a fight.