When did you realize that DMC4 was better than 5?

When did you realize that DMC4 was better than 5?

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After 5 released.

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Yeah, it's not. You've just had 12 years to practice this shit and the little alterations seem like the worse thing in the world to you but they're not.

Only the gameplay really.
robo arms kinda suck compared to base buster

Yeah, no. DMC4 is boring.

Based.

5trannies spotted.

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While all of this is cool, its just not stylish. No attack or animation is given time to play out so its just a mechanical and soulless exchange.

But you get both?

What kind of fucking idiot ignores the stupid dice crap that DMC4 does... TWICE!!!

Muh gravity

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DMC4's pacing is too shit, even the better animations and higher skill ceiling for combos matter very little when only the Bloody Palace isn't suffering from all the huge issues present everywhere else

You know, the combofaggotry in DMC games was bearable up until people started to claim that 4 was better than 5 just because they could stay in the air and button mash against dogshit enemies as long as they wanted to.
Let me remind you of all the bad things that DMC4 gave us:
>Horrible story, is mostly Nero whining about Kyrie for the entire game + Dante fucking off in the background trying to get Yamato back
>Nero has 1 (one) weapon, 1 gun and one style which makes him extremely limited and unfun to play. The buster is fun for maybe 10 minutes until you realize its basically just a glorified QTE. Watch animation and do big number!! Epic!
>Dante's weapons suck, the only ones you will be using frequently are Rebellion and E&I becasue all the other ones just aren't worth it. Lucifer is too weak to be practical (but is otherwise fun), Gilgamesh is just Ifrit and Beowulf's bastard child that is ridiculously unsatisfying and not nearly as fun to use as either of those weapons were. Pandora's only good moves are the netural and air attacks, the rest are worthless. The Shotgun is an even further downgrade from the DMC1 shotgun and does even less damage.
>Styles are weaker than they were in DMC3, moves were cut and the ones that stayed are less effective than they used to be. But apparently it doesn't matter because you can switch them now. Great.
>You are forced to repeat half the campaign backwards as Dante because the game was rushed before it could be completed.
>Vergil and Trish are fun, but the enemies aren't designed for any other character than Nero
>Lady
>b-b-but guardflying!!!!! please understand that i've sunk so much time into this game perfecting its systems so theres no way that it could be bad!

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based
most of 4's """best parts""" are exploits, under that everything is seriously flawed.

Nah dmc4 is good, but dmc5 is the mastered form. Give this game even just a couple more years and you'll start to see some even crazier shit than dmc4 from the japs; it's only beginning.
Plus, punch line is just too fun.

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5trannies detected.

>Implying all high level players didn't drop 5 to go back to 4

Not an argument

Oh it was a slow descent
I had my first suspicions when I bought enemy step first priority and the enemies didn't drop over time and kept floating
Then I was concerned when the obvious reveal that was predicted months before the game came out happened at the end of mission 11, and "this entire plot is gonna be it, isn't it?" started setting in
Then Nero got his devil trigger, which is even the name of his song, on the last mission of the game, which felt like it was 2/3rds of the way, and then the game abruptly ended
Then I forced myself to play it for 80 more hours, feeling more and more that this isn't right
Then I tried playing with CE physics mods, but the Bloody Palace patch caused the game to start crashing constantly
And then the devs revealed that they removed reversals because "our tester did it on accident, and we didn't want people to do that", and also that they're done with the game and there won't be any patches to fix the game or DLC, so I uninstalled it and never looked back

5's mostly getting attention due to mods. Also japs even made MADS for DmC so that isn't saying much.

DmC is also a better game than 5.

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>Dante's weapons suck, the only ones you will be using frequently are Rebellion and E&I because all the other ones just aren't worth it.
That entire paragraphs outs you as someone who didn't want to bother to learn how to play 4. 5 really was made for people who couldn't get good at previous games so they can have an easier time.
No

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Why? Gilgamesh isn't fun and Lucifer is fun but doesn't do enough damage. If I'm not a combofag idiot retard I shouldn't have to play the game for 11 years in order to realize that its good.

>t.chasertech
eat my shit and die.

DMC5 is heaps better than DMC4.

So does footsooling reset your double jump or not? How do people stay in the air so long in DMC4 and 5? Especially as Dante who doesn't have any kind of grapple.

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Another shit DMC thread.
Rank them from worst to tolerable:
>Kamiyafags (DMC 1)
>Ironic Contrarians (DMC 2)
>Nostalgiafaggots (DMC 3)
>Twitter Combotrannies (DMC 4)
>Dontefags (DmC)
>nuDMCfags (DMC 5)

4 is the least tranny game in the franchise.

>Gilgamesh isn't fun
Wrong. Learn to just release.
>doesn't do enough damage
It does good damage and is great for stunning and fighting shielded enemies. It also doesn't cause clashing which is another bonus. I'm not a combo wanker either and I have fun with the game on the regular.
Yeah jumping off of an enemy resets all your air actions.

jumping off of an enemy also resets your gravity so you don't fall down as fast

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It's not. But we shouldn't pretend it's not an OK action game either.

>Learn to just release
excuse me?
>is great for stunning and fighting shielded enemies
why would I do that when you could just fight them normally by walking behind them? and on top of that when would you ever need to stun enemies in DMC? enemies don't block at all really

What is it with modern action games and keeping you in the air forever? Even the new Kingdom Hearts games have this problem.

>poor fag stuck in the past can't even admit to themselves that their favorite game was never that good.

Cope.

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What? I always loved DMC4. I would probably only put it behind NG as the GOAT action game and that is mostly because DMC4 Dante doesn't have his own levels to go through and lacks weapons although that briefcase is pretty damn incredible. Also NG is pretty damn near perfect so hard to really top that.

DMC4 is definitely the best DMC game despite its flaws. I honestly miss this genre. It hasn't been the same in a long time. Even GOW which was already a casual series compared to its competitors looks amazing now thanks to how even old GOW is too hardcore for today's casuals into nu-GOW.

Oh yeah this was a DMC thread right?

>bandicam

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The amount of skill needed to pull this off is insane. The webm demonstrates a player that knows the game very well.

Jesus it fucking sucks so much that we never got the ultimate DMC game with THIS fucking engine and gameplay. Capcom fucked up so badly.

>we never got the ultimate DMC game
We did. It's called Devil May Cry 4.

I just finished 4. I played 3 over 10 years ago. What is so bad about 5? I've heard opinions that is the best in the series and sometimes the worst. I liked 4, I knew about a bunch of the crap going in like the lack of levels so I wasn't turned off by it.

>What is it with modern action games and keeping you in the air forever?

A very clever and subtle form of casualization since they know that normies would have a tough time staying airborne in more skill based action games that don't keep you floating forever like a balloon. It is clever and subtle because people have yet to notice the issue on here.

Its easy to succeed at it if you aren't a retard.

>excuse me?
How can you even talk about the game when you don't know what that term means. It's when you release a charged move at the right time.
>walking behind them?
I'd like to see you walk behind Blitz or Alto Angelo on anything above DH difficulty. Also that's a really silly stance to have for a game like DMC. It's like complaining Dante has too many moves. Having different options and more ways to solve a situation is a positive.
>enemies don't block at all really
Damn dude did you even play this game? Scarecrows, Bianco and Alto Angelo, Assaults all block.
We really needed another MT Framework DMC. What a waste.

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DMC is such a fucking crappy series. The enemies exist as nothing but punching bags for your SMOKIN SICK STYLE combos. Nothing fights back. I mean literally, the regular mook enemies don't even fight back. The only things that fight are the bosses yet I have to go through boring as fuck sections of platforming and killing brain dead zombie like enemies to get to them. The 3D Ninja Gaiden games are way better.

nu/v/ has only played 5
babby's first dmc
r not surprise opeh

>literally
Dilate.

When my autism diagnosis was confirmed.

>actually bragging """high-level""" gameplay on a single player game with braindead AI
>single player game
>with braindead AI
kek, you Action Game fags truly are delusional. what's the point of beating an enemy that barely fights back?

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You can't argue because you know I am right. Groups of enemies stand still and wait to be killed one by one, watching as you do your epic combo on their friends. There is no danger until you get to bosses, and they're only dangerous because most of them have mechanics to prevent from being comboed from 100% to 0, otherwise they would be the same.

oh THAT move, i completely forgot about it because i stopped using gilgamesh when i realized it was bad. once again, charging the moves is fun i guess but its pretty unsatisfying, thats my main issue with gilgamesh
>Blitz
I just shoot at them until their shield breaks, every time I tried to explode their shield with Lucifer he just blocks it so whatever.
>Alto Angelo
I literally have walked behind them on SOS and DMD and its worked fine
>Scarecrows, Bianco and Alto Angelo, Assaults all block.
Not really. I've beaten the game on SOS and DMD and they still really didn't block all too much and when they did their shield was easily breakable with helmbreaker

DMC4 isn't perfect. Dante doesn't get his own levels, the bosses while great get repetitive fighting them a third time, Dante lacks his weapons from 3, bloody palace isn't like in 3, SE came out many years later and the characters also don't have their own levels or bosses to fight.

It's like DOOM 2016
pure hyper/marketing but no soul like the original game. Story is fanfic tier, it has zero level design, music is shit tier, gravity and jumping is floaty as fuck, no turbo mode.
People who call it the best game ever are just delusional newfags.

it's not surprising that DMC5 is more casual than 4, it makes more sense to make it so nearly anybody can pick up the game and style after a few hours than to tailor the game to the top 1% of players. I'm not going to say I don't miss momentum and inertia and shit, and I wish the game at least came with fucking turbo mode, but I can accept the compromises in 5 because it was successful, and that makes more DMC more likely.

crazy combos alone don't make a game good

I've noticed it. I just prefer it that way. Die mad about it, faggot.

Actually yes it does. DMC 3 and 4 is proof.

>soul
Amazing how one little word can invalidate an entire post.

DMC4 is dogshit