>gets told by a genius detective (from an insanely rich family), a nation-wide acclaimed pop star, the successor to a successful textile shop, the future inheritor of a famous hotel, the son of a fucking supermarket owner, and a literal 10/10 chad that innate talent and pure dumb luck making up 95% of your lot in life is like, totally untrue
What did they mean by this?
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Their point is more that not being born into such things gives no excuse to murder people.
But he just dropped them in the TV. They killed themselves by getting fucked up by their own shadows.
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Been years since I played P4, Naoto is from a rich family? I thought Yosuke was the only rich one.
Did you start her social link? Many of her s-links mention the Shiroganes having a fucking mansion of their own.
adachi did nothing wrong and the investigation team did not have a single decent argument against him
Naoto's the only legitimate one. Everyone else just REEEEEE'd without any attempt at a legitimate counterargument.
I didn't even think Yosuke was really rich either. Wasn't his dad just the store manager at Junes? I mean, he's probably comfortably middle class and maybe rich by small town standards but not "rich" rich.
Kek
>murderer keeps on murdering innocents
>AAAAAAAA WHY ARE YOU NOT PARTICIPATING IN A BATTLE OF WITS AGAINST ME YOU DUMB KIDS AAAAAAAAAA
Fuck off Adachi that's not how it works
Lmao I didn't know that at all. Does P4 have the collectively highest net worth out of any NuPersona team or does Kirijo btfo the other teams combined.
Kijiro has Bruce Wayne levels of money
He committed at least one murder on purpose. You only need to commit one to be a murderer.
That depends on whether the Nanjos BTFO the Kirijos or the other way around. Apparently the Kirijos were the ones to separate from the Nanjos, so I figure the Nanjos are probably the larger ones in terms of net worth by some margin.
Kirijo Group has "Fuck You" money, Naoto's family is merely wealthy compared to the average person.
Adachi was right about fucking everything. If you don't win the genetic lottery enjoy being miserable your entire life. If your creativity is the slightest bit messed up, if your reaction is just genetically 0.01ms slower, you will never, EVER catch up to those talented people no matter how much fucking effort and hard work you put into anything.
>literal 10/10 chad
Yeah because he worked the whole game for that, Adachi did not see the books he read, the stuff he ate, the fucking origami he made, and the shadows fought all game
People who have everything will preach about such ideology. They could never understand how it feels. I hate the entire main cast of P3-P5, it's always the same bullshit.
so if I tie you up and leave you on railtracks it's not murder since it was the train that killed you, right?
Stfu you ugly virgin and go die in a hole
>I didn't win the genetic lottery, guess I gotta kill people
>. I hate the entire main cast of P3-P5
Literally none of them had 'everything' even Mitsuru was missing her parents love and was 'dumb' on the outside world
People tend to forget this, you get locked out of a lot of shit if you ignore social stats
You can't polish a turd, you know.
Technically they would probably die of exposure before a train comes by
You can argue that the first case was manslaughter because he didn't realise what happened in the tv. Then he found out that people died in there and he kept doing it. That's murder.
Adachi is probably the last Persona villain that will have any kind of notable motivation.
Sure a psycho and a delusional sperg.
But really, in his mind, what choice does he have?
Live life of an isolated incel because of your social autism and mediocrity and then strangling a hooker in his car 5 years later and getting 15 to life?
Or ending the world and bringing it to another plain of existence nullifying everything upper-mentioned?
I mean his entire motive is summarized in his battle theme name. youtube.com
That's neat no matter what you say.
>Implying
All the mcs begin as a literal who
The problem with Adachi in this regard is that even if other people have it better by default, most of his problems were his own damn fault. And that holds true for other people IRL, it's easy to blame others while ignoring personal responsibility.
And why kill instead of improving? Adachi toss people in the TV and defends himself saying life is unfair despite that not being the reason he tossed them
You bet your fucking ass if you genetic lottery winners talented chad assholes make my life miserable I'm going to start retaliating.
MCs have all the opportunities and agency by your own hand. Villains are written into situations they cannot escape from. That is fate.
>genetic lottery winners talented chad assholes make my life miserable
No one did that do Adachi, he was tossed in Inaba for a mistake he made
Fuck you, Junpei is my spirit animal.
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No you’re not kek
Fucking pussy going to kill himself in 6 months
>No one did that do Adachi
They did by sending him out to the fucking sticks because there was already too much competition at the capital. Did you even play this fucking game? Did you read his dialogue or just speedread through it like an ADD retard?
He was improving all his life, he literally missed out all social llife because of the studyings
>They did by sending him out to the fucking sticks because there was already too much competition at the capital.
No, they did because he made a mistake, he says that himself
Who the fuck made his life miserable in Inaba though? The lady who makes him food that he bins because he's an autist? Women who don't fuck him just because he exists? Dojima being a hardass, who nonetheless constantly has him over in his home anyway?
i want p4 if... with adachi as protag
>Using the anime as evidence
Can we not go down this road?
>petty office politics means the Council of Chads personally had it in for him
Grow up.
This one bothered me a lot more.
>The part where MC is trying to come clean about the TV world to Dojima while he's being interrogated
>"Do you have a single shred of evidence to back that up?"
>There's literally a tv right fucking there in the room, MC never thinks to stick his hand inside it even though it's right behind him and he isn't restrained in any way
>"..."
>"Unbelievable..."
Yeah why didn't they spend 2 hours deconstructing the argument (with cited sources) of a guy who opens the conversation with "Actually I didn't kill anyone I just pushed them into traffic" and who's crime spree began when he attempted to smash a woman's head into a TV for not having sex with him
>your canon is not canon
Eh i would say all the villains were either cowards or could have stopped, Strega and Ikutsuki were cowards who wanted to take the easy way out, Adachi could have just not tossed a girl in the TV(the first one was accidental but the 2nd one was all on him), and the P5 ones are villains because 'society was mean with me'
What, I thought everyone loved it when Narukami wanted to sacrifice his team for Muhree in P4GA.
Adachi was an idiot
Adachi is right to an extent, but the problem isn't his motivation rather it's the fact that the IT did such an extremely poor job in refuting him when they also aren't in the best position to prove him wrong in the first place.
This. They never actually refuted his points. They just say "no u" and then beat the fuck out of him while preaching "friendship and bonds".
The only lesson Adachi should have taken from that was finding more people to join his cause to fuck over the world.
You should be bothered even more that the entire case is solved by Yukiko conveniently remembering that Adachi was assigned to guard Yamano 7 months later, or that nobody bothered to question that the same detective was last seen with both murder victims before they mysteriously vanished.
>the successor to a successful textile shop
In a shopping district that is getting fucked because of the big department store that moved in
>the future inheritor of a famous hotel
*A fairly nice inn in a rural town, famous is a stretch
> the son of a fucking supermarket owner
*the son of a fucking supermarket manager who everyone in the town hates for being associated with wrecking the town shopping district
Like sure there's a pop star and a celebrity cop but Yosuke & Kanji have got shit all
So what? You'll never be a famous athlete or great artist so life is meaningless and miserable and you should just throw bitches into TVs?
Anything this guy says or gives as advice is undermine by the fact that he lived the most miserable life possible. Talent is everything. They way you're born determines what you will be for the rest of your life and there is nothing you can do to change this fact.
Not to mention that fucking thing with Naoto and her inability to set up cameras...
No I'm just stating a fact. They are created as villains, they are written to make those mistakes. There is no "could have" for fictional characters unless there is agency given. Therefore the mistakes are truly committed by the writer.
>some people learn certain skills faster
>others can't even get on basic level for most of skills such as drawing, singing, etc
Talent sure ain't real, Mr. Ross
Hm that is true
>The lady who makes him food that he bins because he's an autist? Women who don't fuck him just because he exists? Dojima being a hardass, who nonetheless constantly has him over in his home anyway?
Who want to life such a mediocre, half-assed life just because you weren't born a Chad?
The main protags have no counterargument whasoever, they just whine like 10 year olds from the kindergarden.
>SHUUUT UUUPPPP
Jesus fucking christ, just end this memory.
Think about what this () user said. In his place, would you just keep on getting cucked by the monotony of a lackluster life while these brats, all destined for greatness, keep rubbing it in?
isn't having access to magical bullshit kind of winning a lottery though?
>I DESERVE to be special
There's nothing wrong with living an average life
Adachi had all the pieces available to him to build a decent life, he chose not to use them
Jeez right, why did I even bother learning English? Might as well gfwba faxo fasxpfan
>they just whine like 10 year olds from the kindergarden
Adachi does the same though
The entire scene is literally both sides going NUH UH
This is what I've been trying to tell people all this time and why I back up Adachi's ideology so much. If your vocal chord anatomy is fucked and you don't luck out with a perfect voice you can't be a fucking competent singer. If your brain is messed up from birth and for some reason can't coordinate your hands properly you can't play an instrument or be an artist. If you weren't born with the proper genetics to have a masculine jaw and Chad face along with the genes to frow 6'+ you will never be attractive. None of this shit is fixable, either.
Yes and he also had luck that the shadows were on his side on his tv world
>durr she's only super rich and not street smart hurr
take the silver spoon out of your ass
>SHUUUT UUUPPPP
this is literally, almost verbatim, adachi's response to naoto
You mean if I was given Adachi's powers, and a Persona?
I honestly don't now what I'd do in that position, but I can guarantee you my default response wouldn't be to kill people and try to end the world.
>I need to be the best at something without even trying or life is meaningless
That's pretty narcissistic for a fucking loser.
Lmao @ you trying to make it about who deserves what.
So the fuck what
If you're an adult and you still haven't found a way to make peace with the cards you were dealt then you're just a dysfunctional person
>the world isn't fair and I made mistakes so I should be allowed to kill people
The whole point of Adachi is to demonstrate that in the end, people determine their own fate by playing the hand they've been dealt. It wasn't his circumstances or social standing that made him a serial killer. It was his own perception and his choices that made him what he is. Any autist that says Adachi was right is just a weak-willed NEET that isn't willing to try anything to better themselves and would rather force other people to be as miserable as him instead of try to make himself happier.
You could just not kill people. I don't know why this seems like a difficult task for you.
>Adachi had all the pieces available to him to live a nonsensical, conformist, mediocre life
nice counterargument, really got me there bud
Adachi can't use his Persona for anything other than destruction. The only reason the TV world shadows took his side was because he was so in tune with his destructive instincts.
>wouldn't be to kill people and try to end the world.
He just wanted to merge the two. He wanted people to be true to themselves for once. Something that was not allowed to him during his life.
This is why the starting cast of P5 is better. You are all social outcasts of delinquents, sluts, and autists fighting for the little guy. It’s a shame Makoto and Haru fuck up that dynamic though.
Not that user but I throw bitches into tvs already. Costs an arm and a leg so now I just use the same broken tv to avoid wasting needless money on damage caused by whores.
But P5 is a message against Adachi's philosophy, each of them were fucked by society but they still fixed and improved themselves
Him too, just like every thread on smash if you put melee into the party.
>He just wanted to merge the two. He wanted people to be true to themselves for once.
It was wrong of him to force this on people
Yeah? Brolylegs is disabled as fuck, can't hold anything in his hands.
He still wanted to become a proplayer and became insanely good at the game.
People who keep on spewing these redditisms about "playing the hand they've been dealt" never had a rough hand dealt to them in the first place.
Socail outcast my ass
Since Junes is clearly supposed to be a fictionalized Walmart, assume he's middle class. A Walmart Store manager gets a starting salary of $90,000, and the fact that their Junes is big enough to have a fucking food court means Yosuke Sr. probably gets an additional pay differential.
>can't hold anything in his hands
>plays a manchild game and will never contribute anything to society or have his name written down in history or do anything else, really
what a fulfilling life
You're right he should have lived his entire life like a loser on the scum end of society despite all the work he put in. He's an ass hole for trying to change his fate, you're right.
Being an adult would also mean that you have an understanding of what you can and can't do. Adachi is intelligent, not immediately repulsive and had a respectable job, even if down by the boonies. The fact that he still managed to nuke every chance he had was his own personal failing and his anger at the world is legitimately childish and laughable, because he's causing harm to people who weren't at fault for his life being as it was
mm yes the rough hand i was dealt means i will happily murder another person and attempt murder on a third, all while advocating that someone else commit murders by lying to him and saying he's saving them
>becomes a cop just because he wants to carry a gun
>expects every day to be some crazy TV shit where he hunts down criminals in crazy car chases and shit
>Inaba is a dull town, but the worst he has going on is Dojima yelling at him for his legitimate fuck ups
>even then Dojima considers him his friend and they regularly eat together
>there's an old lady in town who cooks for him
Adachi was a fucking manchild and so are you if you sympathize with him.
>He's an ass hole for trying to change his fate
*by killing people
Yes that's the gist of it
The real question is: Who has more money and underground influence, the Kirijos or the Joestars/Speedwagon Foundation?
>He's an ass hole for trying to change his fate
What does killing 2 girls do to his fate? make him go to jail?
some of us are/were homeless autists. The fact that you're here shitposting on Yas Forums instead of being fodder for some african warlord is proof that your hand isn't that damn rough
>head of the track team
>teen supermodel
>student council president/daughter of famous lawyer
>epic hacker gamer girl
yeah what a load of outcasts
Why are Adachifags such insufferable idiots. Note that liking the character isn't what makes an Adachifag, but the sheer level of delusion and tunnelvision that makes a person like (You) ignore the fact Adachi's current lot in life is pretty much his own fault and can be traced back to the reason he was transferred to Inaba in the first place.
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t. Roastie behind the postie.
They are the same group
hope you get to that dream of becoming the best goalpost mover in the world yourself, user. godspeed.
>He's an ass hole for trying to change his fate
How were killing a reporter and getting triggered by a high school girl attempts to change his fate?
More interesting than dying with no one knowing him and being a loser his entire life.
>he's an asshole for murdering innocent people
yes?
Here, let me teach you anons a lesson about life before I leave the thread. I had a girlfriend all throughout highschool. She was sweet, and did her best. The type that would live and die for you. Not really anything to complain about there. But you know what? I realized that you don't get anything from relationships. Nothing at all. Sure, she might bake you a couple of sweets or buy a cheap gift here and there. But who gives a shit? A waste of time, that's all it is. That's all relationships ever will be. So I decided I was done with her. I used the fact that she had a male friend as an excuse to break up with her, actually got her to believe there was something wrong with it. She felt so guilty, begged me to forgive her. That she'd do anything to make it up to me. It was such an intense reaction that I thought she was going to kill herself when I left and deleted her from my contacts. I even went so far as to delete every online account she added me on, so she couldn't ever contact me again. I left her stranded. Man, I wonder how the poor girl would feel if she knew I was frequently cheating behind her back. She never found out. I checked her Twitter a few months back to see what's up. Supposedly, she's hospitilized for whatever reason, taking heavy antidepressants. The only one posting on her feed is her mother, too which is kinda funny to me honestly. The lesson? Don't bother with any human aside from yourself, unless you plan on using them for your own personal gain. Sex isn't worth it, it's just a feeling. Trust someone who has experience, okay? Remember this post. You'll thank me later.
Quit shitposting and go get my coffee.
adachi's "argument" is fucking hilarious
>everyone around me is so fucking stupid, I had a real dream like getting into the police so I could hold a gun, but everyone around me was so stupid, then I just did ONE FUCKUP and they sent me out here for literally no reason, and I was so angry and bored after a while I just wanted to smash the chick I was assigned to guard's head into TV because she wasn't coming onto my advances, then I found I could kill people so I did it again and then got someone else to do it because I was bored lol, yeah anyways that's why only the talented succeed and why I need to commit a mass culling, because people don't live true to themselves, like me who just wanted to become a police officer to get a gun and was going to rot in prison if I didn't have magic powers, NOOOO DON'T CALL ME OUT STUPID FUCKING BRATS
Why are you so obsessed with fame
>again, a 10/10 chad
>a 10/10 stacy
>a one in a million artist
>9/10 class president with galaxy brain tier IQ and connections to law enforcement
>the heiress of McDonalds
>a galaxy-brained NEET who could make bank in cybersecurity
The only realistic person in P5's team is Ryuji.
>excluded of his track team
>shunned by other models and even her own team
>dead dad and sister that hates her
>spend 15 years believing she was responsible for her mother's death
>I had a girlfriend
Stopped reading here. Fucking normalfag
Isn't that a wife's job, Dojima-san?
How so? killing people is already wrong now imagine killing just to be well known, also people will forget him as Inaba was a fucked town that did not even cared people went missing some days
Wtf does that got to do with killing people?
Did you ever take a moment to consider HOW Rise became a pop star? You work your ass off to get that famous. As for Yukiko, running a small business is a hell of a lot of work. Yosuke's dad manages the store, he's not the franchisee. I note you've also conviently omitted Kanji and Chie, two literallywhos who are going to live and die in Inaba. No comment on Naoto, never liked her that much.
stop lying adachi, nobody would ever date your autistic ass
>becomes a cop just because he wants to carry a gun
This sums up Adachi. A delusional child who can't distinguish fantasy from reality.
I don't care for it much. But if i got a super power like he did, i definitely would do what i wanted without giving a single fuck.
In his case it was throwing women into Tvs, not the first thing i'd do, but hey it's his power he can do as he pleases with it.
Shit i could actually hear his voice narrating that entire post in my head. 10/10
That's where we disagree kiddo. Killing people better than you is desirable because they have worth. If you take that worth away it means you yourself matter and have worth more than they did.
And all of them were outcasts in the game, that is how fucked up society is, don't forget that the Mc gets fucked the whole game for something he did not do
>sister that hates her
Since when?
I know Adachi better than all of you. The straw that broke the camel's back was when Nanako called him out for having holes in his socks. After that, there was no going back.
>no one knowing him and being a loser his entire life.
He had Dojima and a cozy job on the countryside. His life wasn't even remotely half as bad as he painted it sure it could get dull but there's so much he could have done to improve his situation