He doesn't have gaming ram in his PC

Why do I need a gaming that changes modes it wastes energy and efficiency

I have 4 RAM sticks in total, one red RAM for power, one Green RAM for clean energy and two blue RAM for cooling

>Overclocking RAM at all
Enjoy your random bluescreens for 2 more fps

XMP is overclock, retard.

>he doesn't go all red + water cooling blocks on all ram sticks
Absolute pleb, fuck the environment

most DRAM heatsinks wont interfere with tower coolers unless you have something extremely weird

No it's not. It's timing ram to its factory optimal factory specs. Overclock by definition is taking hardware beyond its intended specs. Take your shit semantics elsewhere, dumbass

>XMP is an automated overclocking technology that enables motherboards to configure memory settings above and beyond the basic rated speeds of DDR4 technology

The extremely popular TridentZ ram all has fuckstupid high heatspreaders. Most people them now it because it's cheap and good for Ryzen.

The fins in pic are deceptively high.

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All ram is set to default DDR4 speeds by the BIOS. If your RAM is rated for higher speeds, you assign an XMP profile that clocks the ram to its intended specs, but not beyond them.
How fucking stupid are you?

I bought a corsair mouse to replace my zowie (I was fucking sick of the scroll wheel button) and that program that comes with it fucking bluescreened my computer. Threw that shit in the garbage immediately and I've been stuck with the zowie ever since

XMP is not just timings, it boosts frequency beyond the rated spec. Why do you think your RAM comes at 2933 out of the box and you have to set it higher in the BIOS?

>it boosts frequency beyond the rated spec
Up to the intended values set by the ram manufacturer for said modules. It does NOT overclock beyond said specs. The very definition of overclocking is taking something beyond baseline.

You're arguing semantics and failing at it.

Can confirm.
T. 32gb 3600mhz TridenZ 3900x water-cooled user

samsung, hynix, and microns intended values are 2666,2933,or 3200. going higher than that is a overclock which is what corsair and crucial do with xmp.

intel will literally void your cpu warranty if you enable xmp because you're stressing the memory controller more than what intel intended at its base.

Are you saying you're right and Intel is wrong?
intel.com/content/www/us/en/gaming/extreme-memory-profile-xmp.html

>buy 3200MHz memory
>enable XMP
>unable to boot
>go to 3000MHz and keep 1:1 FCLK
>BSOD
>have to use 2800MHz and 1:1 FCLK to stay stable
fuckin hate this false advertising shit
Is this something to do with using 4x 8GB modules? Is XMP only meant for 2x modules?

If your ram is at 3600, and your BIOS has an associated profile for said modules, It does not run at 3600 out of the box. When you enable XMP, it does. This is bringing the RAM up to intended spec, NOT overclocking it.

Again, you can't win this argument. It's sheer semantics, and your definitions are misconstrued at best.

its intended spec is its base value. xmp is a overclock. see

another example of why XMP is a overclock.

>Is this something to do with using 4x 8GB modules? Is XMP only meant for 2x modules?

Oh good so it's not just me having this issue

>its intended spec is its base value
>a 3200 module marketed as 3600 means 3200 is the intended spec
retard
Overclock is literally called out as a separate function of XMP on that page. Nowhere is XMP deliberately called out as an overlock.

Zero.Argument. Stay mad, autists.
Dumbass bought poor quality ram claiming to be capable of higher intended values. Has nothing to do with XMP itself.

the more RAM channels you have, the harder it is to overclock RAM.

github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/master/DDR4 OC Guide.md#motherboard

overclock or not IDGAF. 2800MHz and 1:1 FCLK is still leagues better than the default 2133MHz and FCLK 1067:1200. I just kinda feel ripped off that the package said 3200MHz but it's really 400MHz below that

figured. I grabbed them cause they were on a major sale but it looks like it bit me in the ass. Oh well, 2800MHz is still plenty fast

No one is saying XMP ISN't an overclock, you stupid fucking moron.

They're saying the definition of "overclocking" means to take something beyond its intended specs. Nobody says "My ram is XMP overclocked." They simply say "My ram has XMP enabled (implied overclock but only to factory intentions).

Enabling XMP, then using the overclock parameters in the BIOS to increase timings/freq/clocks/voltage is when modders deliverately call out ram as overclocked.

No one says "My RAM is PC3200 overclocked to 3600 via XMP, which is overclocked to PC4200 w/ 1.x voltage" You mouthbreathing inbred trogdolyte.

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benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/ for good ram

>Nowhere is XMP deliberately called out as an overlock.
>Dumbass bought poor quality ram claiming to be capable of higher intended values.
holy shit stop typing please.

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>XMP lets you overclock
>lets you
Learn to read

factory overclock is still a overclock you moron.

Fuck off faggots

You've already been destroyed, autist
XMP-enabled RAM is not factory overclocked, you fucking idiot. RAM is not a GPU.

>buy some cheap adata shit that doesn't even say it's compatible with my amd board
>3200mhz xmp profile works flawlessly

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xmp profiles work pretty well on 1st and second gen ryzen as long as you're not using 4 sticks.

ryzen gen 3 doesn't give a fuck.

I dare you guys to go /g/ and say xmp is not overclocking.

>They're saying the definition of "overclocking" means to take something beyond its intended specs.
which is what xmp does. especially if you have zen+ where the infinity fabric is automatically tied to ram frequency and going above a certain frequency results in bsods/reboots.

The "semantics" part of this thread scuffle is people saying XMP overclocks ram. The die-hard autismos are saying any kind of boost above factory defaults, even if the ram is rated higher, is overclocking. The rest are arguing the overclocking label only gets applied to ram when you use XMP to push it beyond its intended rating.

Both are technically correct, but I side with people who say pushing RAM beyond its DOCP/XMP profile is when you can really start calling it "overclocked", because that's when you push the limits of what the hardware handles. That's pretty much how all other hardware OC is defined and handled.

Yeah, I'd say trying to use XMPs on 4 sticks is what's fucking you.

...

you're already pushing the limits when you enable xmp. cpu memory controllers are rated for a certain speed (3200MHz for Zen2). AMD guarantees stability at that speed or lower, you can go higher but they cannot guarantee stability because like all overclocking it's all down to silicon lottery.

I would use nothing but low-profile bare PCB RAM if anyone still sold it.

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>you're already pushing the limits when you enable xmp
If you have a PC3600 RAM module and you assign it a PC3600 RAM profile, that is not "pushing the limits". You have to be VERY stupid to assume that.

>Buy overpriced RAM so you can OC it and crash constantly
no

you're pushing the limits of your memory controller. you know, the thing that makes your ram function at all.

>overpriced
poorfag detected. bdie has been cheap for a while now nigger

good luck proving that
better luck proving OCing RAM is worth it

>you're pushing the limits of your memory controller
wow! how many megahurtz is that exactly?

This is why you're not allowed to talk tech, Yas Forums

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If you're able to get it running stable at the rated spec on the box then I see no reason why you wouldn't do so. Even during day to day usage faster RAM makes your system more responsive and snappy, especially if you can get the FCLK at 1:1 on Ryzen 3000

I didn't ask your opinion. I asked for proof.

>how many megahurtz is that exactly?
???
are you schizo?

going above the manufacturer rated imc is a overclock

You were called a dumbass, sarcastically.
Based on your response, user is correct.

sarcasm doesn't work on anonymous boards unless you make it blatant. there are retards itt that genuinely believe that xmp is not a overclock.