The ARMs rep is going to be at least 8 alts that have the same body types, regardless of their individuality and character abilities and here's why.
Smash characters don't have to primarily be faithful to the character itself, but faithful to the franchise as a whole. Reminder that: >Simon and Richter share moves, despite being two different characters that don't share specific abilities aside from the weapons they use. >Ness can't perform certain PK abilities. >Daisy wasn't even in Super Mario Bros 2, despite being able to pull turnips.
I believe we'll get these characters to rep ARMs, with intertwining abilities and movesets shared across every single character, with tweaked animations in taunts or movement to allow for character personality. >Springman >Ribbon Girl >MinMin >Lola Pop >Dr. Coyle >Ninjara >Kid Cobra >Helix
Max Brass, Master Mummy, and Mechanica have large body frames to include. Will appear as cameos instead. Misango, Twintelle,and Byte/Barq have extreme fighting styles that aren't as easily blendable withe the rest of the cast. Cameos as well. Springtron will likely be an assist trophy replacement for Springman.
Spring Man/Ribbon Girl and maybe Min Min are the only ones generic enough to be interchangeable. I still think they're going for a single fighter
Logan Bennett
Multiple jumps can be attached to any ARMs character. Kicks might be implemented just as easily between each character. Lola Pop is more of a defensive character so an aesthetic change for her block is the only fine tuning needed. Dr Coyle can be given the Dr. Samus treatment.
Wyatt Nguyen
>Everyone plays same on arms
Play the fucking game, its free right now.
Juan Wood
You're genuinely retarded if you think they're going to put that much work in when Daisy and Richter were made into full on echoes for the additional work created by their unique animations.
Hero and Koopalings are a fraction of that effort.
James Parker
It's more likely to be 4 character than 8
Logan Sanchez
you're probably right
Jace Walker
NO THEY WON'T
Oliver Collins
And Ninjara's smoke screen will be the spot dodge
Asher Jackson
why the fuck do people keep saying this
Hudson Scott
It makes sense and would be cool
Isaiah Brooks
no it doesn't and no it wouldn't >what if instead of fleshing out one character we watered a whole bunch down into skins
Parker Cook
haha how far is she gonna shove him haha just curious lol
I wonder what her ass smells like after having an ARMS fighting match
Christopher Reed
As long as either Mechanica or Lola are in, I'm happy. I have a feeling that I'm not going to be happy.
David Reed
How is that watering them down dumbass? Each character only has one ability anyways. >Ribbon Girl multiple jumps >Ninjara Smoke Screen >Min Min deflect hits with a kick >Springman arms perm charged when low health (high percentage in Smash)
You cannot convince me that wouldn't be fine all attached to one fighter. They all punch and have extendable arms.
Xavier Rodriguez
All this shit and samus is stuck with the fucking other m suit and nothing else
Christian Sanders
I hope you're right and that Lola Pop provides the Down B counter for all of them.
No way on Helix, his body stretching gimmick is too central to the character.
Robert Evans
If you give them different idle/walking animations, they are echos and not alts. No way they are giving ARMS 8 alts and no way Dr. Coyle and Helix have the same base animations as the rest.
But I can believe Spring Man, Ribbon Girl, Min Min and Ninjara to be alts of the same character. More alts than that feels excesive.
Personally my favorite scenario is that we get Spring Man and Ribbon Girl or Min Min as an echo. That way they get different animations on both.
Nathaniel Parker
If Springman ends up being playable Waluigi is 100% going to be the final fighter in the pack.
Colton Myers
>I believe we'll get these characters to rep ARMs, with intertwining abilities and movesets shared across every single character, with tweaked animations in taunts or movement to allow for character personality. This 100%. I’m honestly surprised that nobody else has brought this up before, other than myself. I’d even wager that they could/would go a single step farther and make the alts almost echo-like, in that they may have different stts to better suit their differences in ARMS, or at the very least have a different move or teo for each to make better use of each character’s specific abilities, as well as of course changing taunts, idle pose and general animations around.
>If you give them different idle/walking animations, they are echos and not alts. Damn, I wasn't aware that Inkling Boy and Inkling Girl were echoes. Same with Male Byleth and Female Byleth
Dominic Kelly
inb4 it's just Ribbon Girl
Justin Adams
This is what we're getting
The all in one character will have >Springman's revenge factor >Ninjara's smoke screen as the spot dodge >Min Min's deflect kick as side special or something >Ribbon Girl's multiple jumps
And they will have the ability to switch gloves on the fly with down special or something and each glove has different properties
>Chilla Freezes opponents if hit hard enough >Tri-Bolt Electric damage and stuns >Toasters Fire damage >Megaton More knockback
Ryan Morris
characters have gotten echoes for way less, the point of Smash isn't "how much pointless shit can we squeeze into each slot". it'd be like instead of byleth they had byleth + the house leaders as alts because "well it's close enough they have SOME of their moves"
Matthew Gutierrez
THE ARMS FIGHTERS
CANNOT
BE ALT COSTUMES
Gabriel Flores
...how? I don’t even know where to begin on the questions regarding how that would work. I’m interested in knowing though, genuinely.
Adam Morales
The real answer is that theyre adding lanky Kong to arms so he can get into smash
Samuel Sanders
>Min Min's deflect kick as side special or something Roll, like in the game
Charles Rodriguez
Meanwhile the Koopalings turn into Shadow Mario.
Aiden Long
>I’m honestly surprised that nobody else has brought this up before Are you joking? People have been bringing it back up[ CONSTANTLY because no-one fucking played ARMS to realize it doesn't make any sense.
Mason Nelson
DLC gets more special treatment over baseline characters. You cannot convince me otherwise.
Ryder Jackson
That's exactly what Sakurai does, he pulls shit from franchises as a whole. Like OP said, Ness and Lucas do stuff they physically can't, as well as a multitude of other characters
Jordan Carter
>...how? Amalgamation moveset. It will be very safe and generic for ARMS.
This. You could honestly have Byte replace him instead. Barq wouldn’t even need to be implemented at all. You could have a single move that uses him for all characters, or simply just have him show up as the taunt companion.
This, it's crazy how many people don't get that each character has a gimmick that is central to their character and ergo, it would be a huge disservice to them if they were alts. They're not like the Koopalings, or the Pikmin Captains, or Inklings, or Dragon Quest Heroes, where they're all functionally the same.
Guess that just goes to show you that nobody played the game, and those who have, already forgotten everything about it.
Zachary Campbell
>cant play as sprintron Shit list
Grayson Bennett
>have to wait till June for some reason >Game has been mostly neglected until now since the last major updates >made it a point to show the entire roster and yet didn't show a single one Call me a conspiracy theorist all you like, but that is an exceptionally long period of time to wait for them to just say "x character joins smash!" and nothing else. What I'm saying is that either ARMS DLC revival or ARMS 2 where they'll push some new character that's "the new main character" and that's who we'll get.
Noah Bell
I dont care if it's a disservice I want ribbon playable. I dont want the only arms rep to be some fucker I hate like min min
Angel Phillips
And that's why we got alts where they can be Kumatora and Paula and Poo, right?
Jose Robinson
Horrible.
Have you ever been around an unclean girl? It's puke inducing in the ass/vaginal area and smells like rotting fish.
Tyler Martinez
I mean, you could just give this character some of the special abilites from the other fighters as well. This is the same game where Ness and Lucas steal moves from their party members, or how Simon uses some of Richter's abilities.
Like sure Ribbon Girl's thing is double jumping, but in the context of Smash that isn't actually special at all considering literally every fighter can do that already. So even if it was just Spring Man, he'd technically have to steal her ability in order to work in Smash.
Wyatt Kelly
There's literally no way Twintelle isn't playable
Ryder Allen
If it ends up being Springman, Springtron will 100% be an alt. That, or he'll replace the Springman assist trophy to stop any speculation about assist trophies being able to be playable without a suitable replacement.
Joshua Hill
Or the trailer probably wasn't ready yet
Xavier James
user theres a difference between a girls smell when they clean regularly and some neet that showers once a week. A sweaty girl after a workout be great. Some festering slob not so much.
Joseph Cox
Min Min's more popular and Ribbon Girl is the second mascot of the game. It might not be her
Noah Johnson
I have played ARMS longer than most people have and I still think it makes perfect sense. There is literally no eay it doesn’t. All of the characters play 100% identically for everything except a single ability that doesn’t even play into the character’s moveset but for a small fraction of the time. That means that 90% of the moveset is 100% shareable. Oh, but guess what? A fuck ton of characters in smash already use TONS of moves that they otherwise couldn’t use in their source games, so that means that the one TINY minute thing that was keeping these characters from being 100% mergeable, in terms of moveset, is now gone. The ONLY thing that would stand in the way of like-bodied/proportioned characters would be their animations, which is something that could be easily worked with by making a majority of the moves animate in a way that is broad enough to work with everyone used in the alts and the few that are detrimental to the character and cannot be changed be unique to that specific alt. It’s been done before and can be done again. Besides, even if it hasn’t been done before to this sloghtly larger degree, there isn’t any rule that says it can’t happen. The two golden “rules” in smash are: “if it hasn’t be done before, it doesn’t mean it can NEVER happen” and, more importantly, “There are no rules!”
Terry's trailer wasn't ready but we didn't get "some SNK character joins Smash!" either
Aaron Flores
Sure, but there are still fucking limits, like, no, Springman is not going to poof around like a Ninja or stretch his torso out like Helix, or use Mechanica's jetpack. The only reason Ness uses moves from other party members is because he also has PSI abilities, and Richter and Simon's shared abilities are not central to the characters.
Michael Diaz
Most ARMS characters are humanoid and do the same thing; Throw springy punches
Nicholas Green
>Like sure Ribbon Girl's thing is double jumping, but in the context of Smash that isn't actually special at all considering literally every fighter can do that already Banjo Kazooie have a double jump as an explicit ability, so they ended up with a triple jump. Smash emphasizes the unique elements do have, and when they make exceptions its to that purpose, not to take away unique elements.
Evan Mitchell
Ribbon can jump 4 times Still not unusual in smash but just correcting. Also she has fast falls too I gues
Nicholas Thompson
It would've meant two more months of fighter pass 2 being an IOU on the eShop.
Owen Wood
Most FE characters are humanoid and do the same thing; slash with a sword. They still didn't put them all into a single fucking slot.
Joshua Smith
This. Also, somewhat contradictory and helpful to your point at the same time, the Koopalings all use a hammer bro’s hammer for their Up Aerial and Up Special hammer swing, but Bowser Jr. uses his paintbrush.
Do Inkling male and female have different idle animations? Havent noticed desu. And I suppose you can't have Byleth posing like a woman. Still, making a echoes of a character who is named the same would be idiotic. So they are better than alts.
>Koopalings are alts and many were resized to fit Bowser Jr. Car >Dark Samus is an echo, its only Samus who floats >Daisy and Richter are echoes and only have minimal changes >Ken is an echo but is more different from Ryu than Mario/Dr. Mario >Alph is still a freaking alt
Alas, the Smash character rules are always arbitrary and we are just trying to figure them out just to get BTFO'd in the end. As long we get cool ARMS rep and the mayority is satisfied.
Kevin Roberts
What the fuck? I guess I never noticed this because literally no one uses Bowser Jr as their skin but that's a pretty fucking cool attention to detail.
Isaac Carter
I just played ARMS again today, didn't realize they added a gallery with lore in it. If they do an ARMS 2 I hope they actually do something with it... give the characters dialogue in a story mode or something.
But anyway, I'd actually hate it if there was a new protagonist for the series, just keep Springman as the mascot, keep the whole roster, and build on it. Pisses me off when fighting games cut out characters for any reason other than legal red tape.
Joseph Rodriguez
>with tweaked animations and taunts or movement That's called an echo fighter, retard.
Joshua Smith
Ribbon can dive-bomb. Ninjara teleports while air dashing. Min Min's right arm turns into a dragon when fully charged. Springman deflects punches when finishing a partial charge. And you are ignoring the fact that they animate ENTIRELY FUCKING DIFFERENTLY. Please just play the game so you can know what the fuck you're talking about.
Ethan Hernandez
>Which ARMS character is getting in?! Get speculating! >"all of them? all of them. it could be all of them right? yeah it'll be that" >people care so little about ARMS that it makes no difference if they get one character or all of them
I've played the game, stop acting like characters can't all be rolled into one. You are aware Hero is 4 different character from 4 fucking different games right?
Sebastian Rodriguez
I mean, from my example I wasn't exactly implying that Springman would be cut. Fighting games do this all the time, just push someone new as the "main" but keep the important characters. Like Alex, from SF.
My prediction they'll just remove the Springman assist trophy, and It will be Springman with Ribbon girl alt.They'll touch up the model they already have
Luis Adams
The koopalings aren’t functionally the same. They’re totally different sizes for god’s sake.
