Why do people act like western RGPs are trash when they are unironically deeper and more profound than any JRPG made in...

Why do people act like western RGPs are trash when they are unironically deeper and more profound than any JRPG made in past decade?

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Paarthurnax is the only well written character in that entire game.

Was Paarthurnax lying?
Or were the Blades just being cunts?

>Trusting the word of an overgrown lizard
Scaliefags deserve the rope.

>being a speciest

>literally just "I will kill all evil people"
Gayest quote I've ever seen

>literally just "I will kill all evil people"
That's all you got it form it?

>posts fucking Skyrim
Picture unrelated?

>"I am whatever the people need me to be. A guardian. An oppressor. For some, too distant. For others, too meddlesome. I am the canvas upon which they paint their dreams and resentments. A vessel for their hopes and doubts. A mirror. Nothing more."

What did he mean by this, Bros?

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What recent JRPG is has more deep questions than Skyrim? Waiting.

It is better to be born good by simple math. To be born good implies sum zero evil deeds done. To overcome implies one or more evil deeds done.
Not to minimalize or trivialize the accomplishment that overcoming an evil nature would be, it's certainly commendable. Being born without malicious nature however will inevitably prove a greater asset to all people than for an evil character to renounce his wickedness and seek the path of the righteous.

I just showed this post in my uni class and we all clapped

>thinking I'm defending the story or themes of any RPGs, Nipanese or otherwise
Most of them are shallow as fuck, and Skyrim is scraping the bottom of the barrel. But by all means, continue to move the goalposts.

>I have no examples
Thought so.

>goalposts outside of the stadium
Called it

Unironically nier tomatomango.
What is the nature of humanity and a soul is a far deeper question than those surrounding sovereignty and pontificating on good and evil.

wtf are you even talking about

>skyrim
>deep questions

Reading sure must be difficult when you're learning impaired.

Why do birds fly Yas Forums?

The Blades are pieces of shit you should never listen to, but Paarthunax tells you himself to not trust him and that it would take him nothing to go back to that nature.

answer the question instead of memeing

>Morality is innate

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That isn't the question of skyrim though in fact Skyrim has no one question
The thing is that skyrims main plot is pretty crappy, but the lore in Skyrim and TES in general is a lot deeper than anything that gaming usually provides
If I were to sum up TES metaphysics it is about accepting yourself and whatever reality you view as true and valuable even if it is in reality a solipsistic hellhole induced by your own schizophrenia. Essentially taking the experiment of Descartes to 11 and proposing a solution

you'd have an argument if you didn't also post the most shallow rpg in existence

Pokemon

Post it

That is assuming someone who is born good remains permanently good. Someone born evil but turns good through effort may be more resistant to becoming evil again

>but Paarthunax tells you himself to not trust him and that it would take him nothing to go back to that nature.
That seems like a sign that he won't.
But maybe killing is still for the best since he is immortal and may eventually go insane like Numinex.

He is scared by himself due to the betrayal of Nerevar and is trying to build a consequence free realty if tomorrow where everyone can be happy, thus he is just a self made tool for others to project the Nirn they would like to see. This unhealthy though endearing attempt to make a better world is his way to cope with the betrayal he did.
Of course we know that he fails and on top of that gets betrayed by one his own, Almalexia, in a great Divine vendetta where essentially everyone who wronged Nerevar one way or another get completely fucked during TES3.

>Just leap of faith bro, so deep
Are you 15?
Honest question.

>the most shallow rpg in existence
TES isn't shallow.

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This is some utilitarian nonsense.
The full extent of parthurnaxes dialogue implies something else, that his nature as a dragon is inherently dominant and it is completely alien for him to be altruistic since Dragons exist to dominate. Thus his attempt to be benevolent is completely of his own conscious choosing and effort and not just because he was born in a social circumstances as a creature that was taught to be generally benevolent to others like mortals are. It is about self awareness and choosing to be good not being good just due to circumstances.

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Serana

This has nothing to do with a leap of faith. Whole lore is a thesis about how even in a solipsistic universe where everyone is a projection of s single mind nihilism would still be unfavorable and ultimately destructive to individual, love and self acceptance being the only answer.
Essentially, would you be devastated if you found out that you're a Boltzmann's brain in the middle of space?

Ulfric
Balgruuf
Kolbjorn

it's been shallow since oblivion. bethesda is dead.

> Utilitarian nonsense
Faggot just because you slap a label on it doesn't make that label derogatory. Utilitarianism has its useful interpretations just like every set of philosophical principles.
> Muh (x y z) is superior philosophy and only answer to all questions
Literal fucking mongoloid tier thinking.

>This has nothing to do with a leap of faith.
It does, especially when you say love is the answer.
>would you be devastated if you found out that you're a Boltzmann's brain in the middle of space?
No, because
a) I'm not.
b) Even if I were there would be little to do but accept it.
Stop sniffing your own farts and pretend it's Chanel perfume, kid, come back down on earth.

I am saying that this isn't his point. His point is essentially that there are entities that choose to be benevolent and there are entities that are such only due to circumstances.
Imagine a Navy seal and a very weak individual, both act very nice to others, one of them actually chooses to be nice since he has the power not to be the other might be choosing to be nice but even if he didn't choose it he wouldn't be able to act out on his negative nature.
Parthurnax supposes that an entity in the position of power that chooses to be good is truly good.

Are you just dismissing all philosophical questions about solipsism as irrelevant? Are you retarded?

There is nothing Paarthunaks could ever do to harm a post-Bend Will Dragonborn aside from outliving him.

Yes, I am.
Once you grow up you'll do it as well, because it's a serious waste of time like a lot of philosophical questions.

He wasn't lying but he is making a genuine effort.
Dragons shouldn't exist, they are a result of a broken deity in a reality that is a mistake. Their mistaken nature to dominate is the result of oppressive nature of monolinearity of time, nature that they are part of as "time angels" essentially.
Without the enforced mortal plane there would be no Dragons and existence would be nonlinear, well to be exact there would be one undivided Dragon God as incarnation of space time itself.

You didn't grow up, you actually became dumber.

I feel like Emil used all of his writing skills on this one character and the rest resulted in Fallout 3+4 and rest of Skyrim.

Daily reminder that dragonborn was roughly the same power as barbas, and with the soul of another dragonborn Miraak could brute Force out of apocrypha.
With enough knowledge last dragonborn can become little unstoppable, comparable to guys like Pelinal and Wulfharth.

Whatever you say, user.
Keep wondering about whether you're real or just a Boltzmann's brain in the middle of space while everyone else just enjoys life, I'm sure you also think everyone but you is dumb.

The word you're looking for is xenophobe.

Emil didn't write him, Kurt Kuhlmann who is also best friends with Michael Kirkbride wrote and inserted most of deeplore stuff in skyrim that was and good
Emil is a brainlet and he was good only at writing guild quests for Oblivion.
He is a horrible writer.

>With enough knowledge
He absorbed the soul of a guy that spent a very very long time in Apocrypha, so yeah he is probably the being on Nirn currently alive.

What kind of question is that? Of course it's better to be born good, but the latter makes for a more interesting stor-

Oh. Damn, based Parthy making you think outside the box.

well story and lorewriting are different things

I don't think anyone is dumb, I think that anyone who is so dismissive of philosophical thinking is just doing something odd to himself. Both of us are locked in existence that we share right now, if there is no way to change it anyways why not ponder about it at least for fun? Where did this odd notion come from that somehow it is a waste of time? A complete non-argument that makes even less sense in a society where almost everyone constantly "wastes time".

if Emil is writing TES VI it might as well be DoA

That makes him even MORE trustworthy.

WRPGs have trash gameplay.

>but muh books! muh lore! so deep!

Give me a dumb waifu simulator with engaging gameplay mechanics over WRPG firs-person trash any day

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We don't know if absorbing soul gives you all knowledge of a person or some of it, but yes, even if it's just parts. Ldb should be a big brain from all the dragon knowledge he hoarded.

They should just invite back Ted Peterson and Michael Kirkbride, put them under control of Kurt Kuhlmann and put Emil on guild quests. Would be pretty great.