Which has the better design?
Which has the better design?
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>Actual design
>Purple naked man
Gee I wonder
both are cool
but i like the weird dude on the right, he has a crow, thats pretty cool i guess, and hes fucked up his spear just for shits and giggles, probably uses that shit to carve a ham
*blocks your path*
Not sure what Kaneko's deal was with making Norse gods purple.
New one isn't that bad. OG Odin has a better helmet though and the new one has an overdesigned spear. Kaneko designs are just fucking classics though. Could never hate anything about his monster art.
I would've preferred if Doi's had an actual Norse design instead of being Ultraman, but I really can't complain with how many cultural references Kaneko slipped into his designs that westerners didn't pick up on because the franchise and Internet weren't as big at the time.
This one is the best though, the Devil Summoner games had so many top-tier designs.
Right guy with left guys spear.
in general making gods humans but different colors quickly establishes they are 1. humanlike 2. not human and since so many gods are just superpowered assholes it works well
based
Left because it's not the power ranger of lightning
>crow
at least the one on the right has one of the ravens
Also makes up for not having two by giving it four eyes.
I really hate how lazy they were for the artwork in SMT IV. It just has this real cheap feeling that they just used sprites/art from the archives mixed with shitty guest artist art.
I'd honestly prefer if they just had the guest artists do all of the art for the demons because then things would at least be consistent and not feel cheap.
The one on the left, of course
the right is too literal
The guest art wasn't consistent between itself so no it wouldn't
I don't mind Doi's design. I just wish the Megaten team(s) enjoyed wrestling as much as they did Tokusatsu.
>WHY DID THEY CHANGE MUH NAKED PURPLE MAN WHO LOOKS NOTHING LIKE THE CHARACTER HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE
cope
>wojak
>completely retarded post
of course
yea, what the fuckk is Doi's problem?
it's like everything he does permeates this aura of having an inferiority complex versus Kaneko so it always ends up as some overcompensating and overdesigned garbage
How the fuck are you pulling "inferiority complex" from your ass just from "it's more than naked purple man"?
I don't think that's it, but rather Doi tries to be 'original' and subvert expectations by making the design different to the real thing but it ends up being unoriginal because he just copy and pastes ultraman
because you haven't seen his other shit
>odin wasn't a man in a cloak, he was a power ranger!
Source?
Just because it's different from recolored NES/SNES sprites doesn't mean it's "overdesigned"
Based Debisamafag.
That looks nothing like the one on the left. It looks more like >le power ranger that's the only thing in japan culture I know
I recommend you pick a book about Norse myths instead of regurgitating shit out of your mouth.
trying to frame Doi's visual diarrhea as simply being "different" is dishonest on your part.
there's no point taking this discussion further.
good day.
Only thing missing is the beard, and there's justification for that. I agree the Soul Hackers design is superior to SMT1 but Doi's is worse
>no argument other than "NEW THING BAD"
One more retard rejected
Kaneko's girls are the most fuckable
>and there's justification for that
Not really. It doesn't even have "but SNES sprites" when both NES Odin designs had beards. The "classic" SMT 1 design is an outlier among all of the Odin designs in how low-effort and lazy it was.
>Odin
>no beard
QFT
hahahaha that shit on the right is trying too hard
it's like he doesn't trust the player to get that it's Odin, but that's only because that shit looks so fucking removed from what Odin would look like, that he can only blame himself.
it's such a bad design that he has to put in that raven to tell people "YEA DUDES THIS IS TOTALLY ODIN, SEE THAT RAVEN THERE? YEA ITS ODIN"
LOL
This
A man of culture.
It does though. On the SNES sprite the beard would've blended into the cloak due to the choice of colours. Giving him a blond beard or changing the colour of the cloak would've been a concession in the accuracy of the design for sprite limitations anyway, and they decided that removing the beard was the best option.
The NES sprite doesn't have a beard either, not to mention that it looks nothing like Odin
FANG JOKER
>destroys your narrative
Left one could just be a generic RPG mob enemy, prefer the right one
What the fuck is this?
Kamen Rider Double
He has a red cloak, which is exactly what I was saying
>It's people complaing about "accuracy" when the franchise itself isn't actually too "accurate" to the source material either
I don't mind the lightning fist/hand idea, but man what a mess.
Literally could’ve just kept the whole thing marble white and blue, but apparently we need the bear from Danganronpa
The one Kaneko drew.
Kaneko has about 10 designs that aren't accurate, out of 1300
Doi has 10 out of 24
The franchise was all about accuracy
>using limited colors due to system limitation
You retarded?
Kaneko has tons of inaccurate designs, 10 incredibly generous
So you agree his SMT1 design has no excuse for being shit.
Nope, someone actually went and counted
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I explained the excuse and the Kyuyaku design lines up with it. It was either the cloak or the beard, and they chose the beard for SMT1 and the cloak for KMT
>people in SMT thread asking "what fucking demon is this"
Scrap it, i don't even want SMTV anymore, let the franchise die.
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Both look dumb
If they only came up with 10 then they're completely full of crap and being far more generous than they would be to literally any other artist. Unironically "old thing good new thing bad"
>Pixie listed as "type 1 high conformity" when it's literally just a ripoff of an anime design which Kaneko himself admitted
Fucking clowns. This is exactly what I meant when I said "cultural references Kaneko slipped into his designs that westerners didn't pick up on because the franchise and Internet weren't as big at the time."
I like the super sentai one more from a design standpoint.
But this one if we're talking accuracy.
>>Pixie listed as "type 1 high conformity" when it's literally just a ripoff of an anime design which Kaneko himself admitted
And? How does that mean it looks less like a pixie? Find me one person who looks at this and doesn't immediately think 'pixie' or 'fairy'
Not him but if a design is a literal steal of something else, then it can't be considered a good design on his part. It's just a stolen one. It doesn't matter how much it fits if he just ripped it.
I immediately thought of onahole.
Because he's not researching fairy myths and coming up with a design that fits them, he's just grabbing a random anime character and relying on your cultural ignorance to make up for it. If you're going to give Doi shit for UltraOdin even though there's an actual design reason for it then you're a hypocrite for not being as anal toward Kaneko just because your first game was Nocturne.
>Retard links a biased list from someone being incredibly generous to Kaneko designs means that literally 99% of Kaneko designs are dead accurate
You seriously can't make this shit up