>DOOM 2016 >Just run around and shoot stuff until you get the super shotgun. Upgrade it and then trivialize every subsequent encounter with reckless abandon. Yas Forums adores it!
>DOOM Eternal >It is absolutely essential that you use a varied arsenal and skillset if you wish to survive even a mundane encounter. Every tool at your disposal has a purpose and utility. Standing still for longer than 3 seconds will undoubtedly result in your death. Yas Forums hates it!
2016´s whole schtick feels more like DOOM, Just run around and shoot stuff until you get the super shotgun, IS the doom experience. The problem is that eternal has gimmicky restrictive combat, though I don´t have a problem with more verticality, but shit like destroying parts of the demon feels weird in a doom game.
That's an insult to the classic DOOMs and is indicative of your lack of experience with either of them.
Brody Martin
Doom eternal is pretty great, though it does feel more like quake than Doom and as many have said before like a character action game similar to dmc3 turned into an fps. I don't care about feel of Doom though, we have literally a decade of Doom games as well as infinite wads, Doom eternal is a solid game on its own. Bfg was always overpowered, even in the days of invisible body Rays..
Jason Morgan
but cacos make funny gulp sound
Joshua Howard
With the amount of Quake references they jammed into it I wonder if they'd ever consider making a new addition to the series. Eternal's gameplay gives me high hopes for it if it ever came to fruition.
Parker Morris
Cacos say "gulp" and zombie heads go "pop". Literally unplayable.
Caleb Campbell
>but shit like destroying parts of the demon feels weird in a doom game. You dont have to though, its just an added bonus for precision shooting
Jeremiah Wright
I'm switching weapons about as much as I did in 2016, still using mostly the super shotgun and then just chainsawing when the ammo is dry.
David Lewis
oh yeah that pop was really out of place too
Jaxon Sanchez
Spam cycling through weapons and piano tapping your keyboard to fire all of your equipment isn't particularly enjoyable when it's mandatory.
Blake Ortiz
>>Just run around and shoot stuff until you get the super shotgun. Upgrade it and then trivialize every subsequent encounter with reckless abandon.
SSG was overpowered, but you could play with every weapon you loved. Eternal is forcing you to use weapons you dont even like. and that is total bullshit.
Everyone loves to play with his favourites weapon.
I get the impression that they were going for a slightly more cartoony approach but then stopped after a few sound effects and glory kills for some reason.
Lucas Johnson
>Something that literally wasn't possible in doom is the doom experience Nigger what
Isaac Powell
Seems like being bad at it would make it more enjoyable because it'd be less repetitive to make a mistake in your mandatory weapon and equipment combos that requires you to actually think to fix.
I honestly wouldn't mind tying in Quake 1, at least. The strogg and all that was fucking boring and lame as hell.
I really wish nu-Doom had Quake strafe jumping/Q1 bunny hopping too, along with rocket jumping.
Chase Fisher
Cacos eyes also make "pop" sound during GK.
Tyler Diaz
>Painkiller >All weapons have alternative firemodes and the game makes sure to make full use of them without gimping you artificially by removing ammo from the game >Shiternal >Weapons are shit and you have to upgrade them because otherwise they're useless and on top of that they carry like 10 ammo per gun and you have to chainsaw infinite respawning enemies(that were made for only that purpose) to be able to get ammo back Yikes from me shill.
Eli Cooper
I literally only use super shotgun in Eternal. It's funny how duum apologists are simultaneously >the limited ammo makes you think about tactics! it's shooter chess! and >just use the chainsaw for infinite ammo! Both can't be true but the latter is. If you just press this global reload button on cooldown you can just SSG it up.
Kevin Roberts
Someone said one of the lead devs accidentally implied they're working on a new Quake game.
It's just going to be a reskin of 2016/Eternal, though. Don't expect strafe jumping, bunny hopping, or rocket jumping to be in. I also wouldn't expect another NIN sound track. It'll probably be a retread of 2, since Strogg and Stroggos are an easy parallel to Hell and Demons that'll be easy to transition to for their art team.
Lucas Fisher
>Don't expect strafe jumping, bunny hopping, or rocket jumping to be in. And that's not gonna happen because of consoles. Can't do those moves on a gamepad.
Landon Howard
>(that were made for only that purpose) There's exactly 1 encounter in the entire game where fodder enemies are actually somewhat of a threat and it's the 2nd to last time you fight the marauder. It spawns an almost excessive amount of imps and gargoyles and the arena is really big so it's easy for them to snipe you in the back while you're not looking. And they're only a threat because they're infinitely respawning, specifically to provide a source of ammo/armor/health while you fight the marauder.
Easton Barnes
Maybe true for my first playthrough, but now since I'm better at the game, the Rocket launcher and SS can carry you through the game. It's a shame really, since I enjoyed the constant switching
Aiden Hill
>Yas Forums hates it! >Yas Forums is one person dont fall for it
Casuals and fake gamers agree: Doom Eternal is the ultimate PG-13 demon romp of 2020!
John Parker
>2016´s whole schtick feels more like DOOM, >passive dnemiss >small number of enemies >square corridors >red and brown shit >like doom Are you braindead or what
Henry Watson
but casual shitters are complaining about muh ammo and muh glory kills while playing on hurt me plenty
Jaxson Russell
Nah, that's real gamers voicing real concerns. Casuals just play with auto switch on empty and hold down M1 only pausing to RIP AND TEAR! *heavy metal riffs on air guitar with horns and spikes on it*
Colton Wilson
>Don't expect strafe jumping, bunny hopping, or rocket jumping to be in >Don't expect things which make Quake unique in Quake Yeah, it's 2020 I get it, but I believe ID is somewhat self aware at least
Gabriel Stewart
oh those very real games who also get caught on lies in those very same threads yea okay eat shit retard
Xavier White
To me "good" means "worth a single playthrough," so like a 7/10.
Mason Ross
literally nothing is stopping you from playing a wad right now, doom community is still strong, why are you faggots so insufferable
The super shotgun is fun to use. The cooldown abilities forced down your throat aren't.
Justin Evans
The game is going to get its dick sucked by 6 million people no matter what as long as it's just nudoom with a quake paint job, they don't need to be "faithful" or whatever.
Carson Nguyen
>DOOM 2016 >Rip and tear as you see fit
>DOOM Eternal >Rip a bit according to our script and interrupt your gameplay for a cutscene every few seconds or you will run out of resources or die
Is it that hard to understand the core mistake in Eternal's game design? Nobody plays Doom to be forced into exact gameplay script you envision, Bethesda.
Also, level design is steered to artificially increase the time player spends in the game by making him walk a lot of empty distances for no reason. It's like they took worst parts of 1996 (shitty backwalks through an empty level to use a key) and worst parts of 2020 (press X to see a cinematic cutscene) and blended them together.
>dev: there won't be any more arenas in Eternal >Eternal releases >every encounter is in arenas What did id mean by this?
Ethan Morales
>haven't played 2016 or eternal >watch eternal gameplay from friend's stream >its just damaging the enemies until they start blinking and then use melee finisher Doesn't look too engaging to me fampai.
Angel Reyes
Thats how I feel about it. The first game felt polished and with a really consistent mood. This one is bloated with bullshit like cutscenes, endless upgrade bullshit, swimming and arenas.
Jordan Bailey
>as you see fit >stunned enemies recieve reduced damage from guns forcing you to le rip n tear Are you retarded
Juan Mitchell
That the little opinion of the vocal minority of entitled complainypants gamers doesn't matter to them or to a game's success.
>t. haven't actually played the game you can brute force everything like in doom2016 on any difficulty besides nightmare if you aren't garbage at video games consider suicide
Gabriel Hill
He must've been playing on ITYTD. If you constantly try to glory kill everything on UV or higher you'll get fucked up.
Landon Kelly
>try to glory kill everything on UV or higher you'll get fucked up. How? You literally invincible during gloryy kill animation and recharge your dash, literally blinking around enemies with runes.
Alexander Long
why do you care what people think about your game, you faggot? who gives a shit.
Noah Moore
prowlers.
Luke Powell
What exactly is supposed to happen if you glory kill on UV? I did it all the time and I was fine. If anything launching a glory kill is a get out of jail free card in a bad situation.Get some health, get repositioned slightly, dash away.
Levi Flores
it forces you still for a few seconds letting enemies land their attacks. play the fucking game if you wanna talk about mechanics you shit eating retard
Ryder Walker
You don't take any dame when cutscening enemies, buddy.
Jayden Hall
>land their attacks >you are invincible ??????????????? Tuporului dolboeb don't reply to me
Jacob Walker
yes I know hence why I said it sets you up so when you leave the glory kill you get bombarded by attacks if you play on nightmare. you don't know what you are talking about, actually fucking kill yourself holy shit
Xavier Torres
>auto shotgun is useless >micro missiles got nerfed hard from 2016 >stun grenade got replaced with useless microwave beam not every tool faggot
Nathan Butler
Dash away, retard. >m-muh nightmare
William Hughes
>take 100 damage in half of second >gk a creep for 50 health >get instantly raped by another 100 damage from all directions yea fuck off retard
Nathan Price
Brainlet itt.
Blake Myers
read absolute retards the both of you, it must be hard being that fucking stupid
Joseph Cruz
You have dashes, you have ss chain, you have freeze grenade you dumbfuck
John Martin
>slayer bitchquits after getting slapped on the first round disappointing
Luis Rivera
>read Oткaзфвaюcь вepить чтo мoжнo быть нacтoлькo тyпopылым бeзмoзглым гoвнoжyeм. Ccaл и cpaл тeбe в poт.
Camden Bell
>we haven't played doom eternal on nightmare but we are gonna comment on it anyways please post video of you glory killing in the middle of a clusterfuck and getting away with it on nightmare
>Auto shotgun is useless. You either played very little of this game or you simply did not play it at all. Both sticky grenades and automatic fire are invaluable.
Mason Cooper
>le funny reaction pic will make my shit retarded opinion stronger Poshel nahui
David Green
just admit you didn't played the game, you can't be any more obvious
Landon Rodriguez
eternal super shotgun lets you recover 30 armor with the meathook every few seconds, it's even more vital than the super shotgun in doom 2016 where you can just main whatever weapon you want.
William Lewis
>get called out >can't back his claims uh, oh someone is bad at video games
Carter Stewart
First you said >If you constantly try to glory kill everything on UV or higher you'll get fucked up. but then you got called the fuck out by the UV boys and then you started lying about Nightmare instead.
Camden Cruz
>It is absolutely essential that you use a varied arsenal It's okay to admit you are fucking garbage you know?
