SUIKODEN

this game sucked dick and probably has the stupidest looking protagonist i've ever seen in a jrpg

3

How??

2>1>4>Tactics>Tierkreis>5>3

My only gripes with IV is that they reduced the party sizes to only 4 members, which really killed a lot of the party customization that had made the games unique. Also the sailing is just awful until you recruit Vicki.

It needed to be a bigger game. The whole pirates/sea faring thing could have been great if it had more to do and explore. I remember seeing the whole map and realizing how big it seemed, until you realize there's only like 4 islands in the whole game. Interesting premise but it could have been done so much better

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Kasumi for me.

>4 that high
>even over tactics, which is the only good thing to come out of 4
Opinion discarded because you're clinically retarded.

4>5
dam shit taste...

I'm sorry you have shit taste, I guess.

Kasumi all the way

They can't just let good stuff to happen.

Pretty much 70% of the character were useless in 4 and the story was average

>get all 108 characters in S1.
>only difference is gremio is in the ending screen.

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>3 this low
why

>shit narrative
>shit characters
>shit artstyle
>shit graphics
>shit music (apart from rune of punishment)
>shit traveling
>4 party limit
>extremely high encounter rate
>short as fuck
>terrible animations
>ugly as fuck rune spells
>bad vo
>etc
4 is only beaten by 3 as the worst Suikoden game.

5>2>3>1>Gaiden>Tierkreis>4

I never played Tactics. It starred the cast of 4, you see.

5 is like II

Rhapsodia is great unlike 4

5 has all of 2's major plot and character beats, but they're all done much better.

V requires a guide literally every second you play especially with the stuff with the sister in the intro

Being a generic good guy who's conscientious toward his little sister doesn't really require a guide, user.

That's every Suikoden title.

MC doesn't have a faggot name like Freyjadour nor looks like a clown.

What is with this sudden surge of Suikoden threads, lads?

Best rendition of Moonlit Night:
youtube.com/watch?v=SRFZ3TTHTro

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Sony is buying a bunch of Konami franchises and we hope they'll kick in the extra $50 to get Suikoden, too.

It definitely needs one to get all of the stars of destiny, since there are so fucking many characters you can miss with such short windows of time to recruit them, and some that require you to do shit a specific way. Amazing Suikoden nonetheless.

Konami got a new ceo, who never played a video game, around 2008 and the bastard turned the company into a gulag to make shitty slot machines and shitty mobile cancer.

Which Suikoden has the character that can only be recruited if you read through all his long dialogue without skipping or trying to make him finish faster?

Looks about right.

>remaster

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Ask someone who beat IV anything.

3 was pretty good, just a huge step down when jumping from lovingly crafted sprites to amateur-level 3D that moved much too slowly. also it follows the best JRPG ever made so it would've been a letdown no matter what they did.

i'm looking at you, Oboro

How many hours did you grind to beat the last boss

I dont even remember, its a horrible blur. But I remember we "Die" but then dont die, and then our ship picks us up at the end off a beach.

that's Egbert in V. text slows down to a crawl just to fuck with us but leave the controller for a minute and you're good.

even before the new ceo, they already had a reputation for running off talent. the original creator of suikoden quit right before 3 came out and it's been widely assumed that he was sick of konami meddling with his games.

I remember being a dumb kid that is somehow able to get to the final dungeon, but can't beat that fucking tree. My party was Kika and the two ninjas. Also remembered it being impossible because the minions keep respawning and healing(?) the tree

Egbert is literally impossible if you don't know

What are the odds that Konami will let their franchises go and lose their pachinko cashcows?

A collection of remasters would be great

That's unfair. With a lot of characters, including Oboro, you just need to be pushy enough (show up at their doorsteps at every possible moment and ask them to join when there's a prompt). FUCKING KILLEY THOUGH

Christ I fell for this meme but hated 5. The graphics fucking suck compared to the old sprite work. 2 took too long to get going, but I think with 5 it's like 30 hours in before you get your castle. Plus your aunt has literal brain damage or something and needlessly drags out the war when you could of won right there when you capture your sister. The villains are both unlikable and incompetent. Once they retreated to flood the place in spite I just fucking turned it off and never looked back.

5 was awesome, one the best ps2 era games I have ever played. with more systems and side stuff that isn't just cheesy fetch quests or dialogue options to get one of the 'stars' i think the series has a good formula for success.

Loved the design

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was expecting a gacha game instead

MOMMY MILKIES

Did they ever explain why 4 was such a dumpster fire? Just a shitty team behind it basically?

Give it a try, honestly. It was a fun and pretty game unlike 4. Just download a clear save of 4 to unlock Lazlo AKA easy mode.

IMAGINE ADULT TOMBOY LUN WITH BIG TITS LIKE HER MOM
IMAGINE HER WEARING DRAGON CAVALRY ARMOR THAT ACCENTUATES HER FIGURE
IMAGINE HER GOING BACK HOME AFTER A HOT DAY OF PATROLLING
IMAGINE HER HUSBAND (YOU) ATTACKING HER SWEATY BODY AT THE ENTRANCE
IMAGINE MATING FURIOUSLY FOR THE WHOLE NIGHT AND HAVING AT LEAST 10 KIDS WITH LUN

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How do you fuck up Oboro? His recruitment is braindead. Just don't be a killjoy, do the investigation to the end and he'll automatically join you at Raftfleet next you meet him.
It's that faggot doctor from the coliseum that's really easy to fuck up.

Sialeeds recognizes the Godwins and Barrows as the main problem. They built up support for themselves to challenge Arshtat's rule, stole the Dawn rune, and pushed her to use the Sun rune, which drove her insane.

Sialeeds's goal is to see both dead so that the factions they've built up can't impede Lym's rule.

>The graphics fucking suck compared to the old sprite work
5 looks good for being 3d and it even looks better than many 3D anime style games today. It's also the best looking 3D Suikoden game.
The designs are also overall good.

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The politics of a monarchy are not as clean as disney movies, user. Back room wet work is a reality of the occupation.