Why couldn't we just get a normal shooter?

why couldn't we just get a normal shooter?
I like playing a game in real time, and seriously - I don't know why anybody likes having control taken away from them. That's why people skip cutscenes - some people just want to play a game without being interrupted to watch stuff.
I know this is just gonna get lost in the sea of other glory kill seething posts, but its genuinely sad to see a game series suffer a fate like this.
Just because its different, doesn't mean its fun.

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Skip the cutscenes

but it is fun

It's like a 1 second animation you stupid faggot.

but a cutscene plays every time you kill an enemy.

imagine if you had to stand still every time you reload the super shotgun in doom. It would break the pace of gameplay. This is exactly what we're seeing here.

>every time
'no'

I don't think you know what a cutscene is

There are approximately 6 gorillion custom WADs for Doom 1 and 2 that don't have that. Stop complaining and seek out things you actually enjoy playing

why did you buy it then you stupid nigger.
go play in traffic. no cutscenes there.

id be fine with it if only the enemies that require 3 chainsaw fuel could be glory killed, it seems like half my time is spent looking at glory kills in combat and its not fun. this is all before you mention the fact low amo cap makes the game unfun too. Such a shame...

you do realize glory kills are optional?

>scrubs playing on low difficulties depending on glory kills think they know the game

lmao anyone complaining about having to use too many glory kills isn’t playing the game right

Just bought Doom 2016. Multiplayer is pretty fun.

you know they arent ,the game is designed around using them constantly in combat lol

youtube.com/watch?v=cd47x85C7Hk
maybe you need to git gud, this guys barely even uses glory kills

Yeah the cutscenes really get annoying after the 20th or so time you kill something. Still a good game, but would be a lot better if you didn't have to sit through a cutscene every time you killed something.

Just use the icebomb instead

its an exaggeration you sperg. anything that takes control away from the player interrupts the pace and makes the game less enjoyable. Some people just want to sit back and relax playing games. But this whole "rip and tear" bullshit is made for people with ADHD, and the gameplay isn't even fun enough to justify how tense and abrupt the glory kill animation is. Doom guy doesn't even shoot or move or jump as fast as he does a glory kill.
Lets just say if you were high you could chill out and play classic doom at your own pace whether that be tense or relaxed. With this new game, you're forced into playing the game in a hyperactive state, and the game punishes you for shooting to kill enemies. It fucking sucks.

This is coming from somebody who has finished Blood on Well Done - before you call me a casual for wanting to play a game while relaxed every now and then.
See, Blood is a game that is fun enough to justify its hyperactive pace.

If you don't like it then use the ice bomb for health

Bros?

autistic janitor doesn't understand the thread title was tongue in cheek because there's been a lot of doom threads every day since the game came out.

it wasn't a fucking general, it was just another doom thread.

>half my time is spent looking at glory kills in combat
>the game is designed around using them constantly
>the cutscenes really get annoying after the 20th or so time you kill something
Glad to see theres still some of us out there who are sane. Videogames as a medium are largely dead. Shame.

Why even make this thread if you didn't even watch any gameplay? You clearly have no idea how the game actually works. Do you have brain damage?

F I L T E R E D

dusk and amid evil are both decent recent fps games, better than doom eternal anyway.

thanks for explaining the obvious, newfag who is finally adjusting and becoming part of the board but isn't quite yet.

There’s a cut pistol in the game files, and it’s a complete weapon that you can add back into the game.

been here since 2012, probably less new than you.

I don't know what difficulty you fags are playing on, but the glory kills become a necessary reprieve from getting fucked in the ass on nightmare. Even then, you don't have to do them that often, only when you need health (chainsaw for ammo)

>waaaaaahhhh it's too fast for me
Ok boomer

Just shoot the enemy like one extra time when it's staggered and it's dead. Where is the problem

>Why even make this thread if you didn't even watch any gameplay?
Oh, I've "watched" plenty of this gameplay you speak of. I bought the game on steam, downloaded it and watched it. Theres a lot to watch in this game, but they should have added a bit of gameplay honestly.

I honestly feel like I do less glorykills in Eternal than I did in Doom 2016 ,that may not be the case since Eternal has many, many more enemies per arena, but it feels like it. Eternal is so much faster so killing everybody works with the flow, in doom 2016 it almost felt like glorykilling was the faster option at times.

Seethe Eternal

I ain't reading all that shit. Fuck off

I legitimately do not understand the autism surrounding this game. An animation plays every time you subdue someone in a stealth game. Is that a cutscene too? Are all animations cutscenes?

Faster glory kills rune

How many stealth games do you know where the takedown animation will make you invulnerable and undetectable to everyone around you?

I fucking hate you all

It's a shitty band aid fix that should have been a regular suit upgrade, that way it might have been less ass. Otherwise there's no point since there's no benefit to shorter cutscenes since you're immortal anyway.

Ah yes. I too have been here since $YEAR_NUMBER_I_REGULARLY_PULL_OUT_MY_ASS_TO_CONVINIENTLY_BAT_OFF_NEWFAG_ACCUSATIONS
What a coincidence.

has a game ever in the history of this cancerous website caused so much asshurt as doom eternal? holy fuck the entire game is a casual filter it seems.

RIP AND TEAR LOL I JUST SHOT OFF THE SPIDERS DICK TIME FOR A CHAINSAW KILL OHHH LOOK AT ALL THE PINK AND BLUE AND RED GUSHING OUT HOP AND JUMP FROM PLATFORM TO WALL SHOOT EVERY GUN ONCE AND GLORY KILL FUCK YEAH

Okay so you have brain damage then. Got it. Thanks for clearing that up.

Glad to see that the filtered shitters are still bitching and whining in every single thread. Why would you do this? Realize that there are tons of other games for shitters like you, who can't appreciate the much needed evolution in FPS gameplay. There's no shame in admitting that you're bad, it just makes your opinion a bit more worthless, that is all.

You've got a hundred billion "normal" shooters to choose from. Why do insist on all games being the same soulless sludge? We need different styles of games to shake up the industry. Go play one of the 8 trillion call of duty ripoffs.

The invulnerability is a concession that wouldn't make sense in a stealth game. Also, just because you are invulnerable during the glory kill animation doesn't mean you can't immediately get fucked afterwards. There is a risk/reward

>RIP AND TEAR LOL I JUST SHOT OFF THE SPIDERS DICK TIME FOR A CHAINSAW KILL OHHH LOOK AT ALL THE PINK AND BLUE AND RED GUSHING OUT HOP AND JUMP FROM PLATFORM TO WALL SHOOT EVERY GUN ONCE AND GLORY KILL FUCK YEAH

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post yfw Doom Eternal is a bigger casual filter than the fucking indie developed classic shooters like Dusk, Ion Fury, Amid Evil

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>much needed evolution in FPS gameplay
>"gameplay"
scripted events out of your direct control are not gameplay.

I swear half of these retards are struggling through lower difficulties and crying about glory kills because they get obliterated if they don't rely on them

>anything that takes control away from the player interrupts the pace and makes the game less enjoyable.

>WTF YOU CAN DIE IN THIS GAME? DONT THESE RETARD GAMES KNOW TAKING AWAY CONTROL IS BAD?

This but unironically
Its fun

Keep your armor up and you never have to glory kill, shitter.

This is not what he tried to say. You are exagerating on purpose.

>I want to relax while playing this game
>That's why I need to constantly be pressing buttons ever
>Can't even rest for a one second glory kill gotta get my APM up so I can be a pro gamer one day
>THAT'S WHAT I CALL RELAXING!

>The invulnerability is a concession that wouldn't make sense in a stealth game
It doesn't make any sense in a FPS either
>Also, just because you are invulnerable during the glory kill animation doesn't mean you can't immediately get fucked afterwards.
You dash out immediately after you glorykill some fuck, so unless you're absolutely surrounded by a gorillion demons, it just won't happen. I might have died once or twice during the entire game when I was glory kill fishing but that was pretty much jumping into fuck knows how many demons.
> There is a risk/reward
It's absolutely minimal

>choosing what happens in the game in order to achieve an effect is not gameplay

People make the most retarded claims to pretend they didn't get filtered.

dying is punishment for fucking up and incentive to stay alive.
so if you stand by your argument after that, you would have to claim that glory kills are punishment for killing enemies.
i mean it makes sense - incentive not to play the game i guess.
the actual fuck is wrong with you?

thats because doom eternal is a dog shit game unlike all of the good games you listed.

casuals don't play those titles, so there's no way casuals get filtered there

and yet acting like a 1 second finishing animation is a fucking cutscene totally isn't exaggerating at all right

> Jump
OH MY GOD, FUCK THIS CUTSCENE

>Press a button
>Gun shoots and loads next shot without any additional input from the player
>"NOOOOOOO they can't make the entire game cutscenes beyond the player's control!"
That's how stupid you fucking sound. Go play Arma if you want maximum autismal gameplay.

Glory kills give you a much needed breather, since the overall gameplay is blazing fast. Also, if you cannot handle the action-packed demon slaying gameplay, you could always just tone the difficulty down until it becomes comfortable for you. Other players might instead try to hone their skills to become one with the Slayer, at which point they probably would not get hit anymore.
You should really give this game a try. Why not get it? You don't have anything to do anyway, being cooped up at home. You might be positively surprised.

it literally is, it breaks the flow of gameplay and is only worth seeing a single time, but you are literally forced into doing it to recover health, the game even tells you thats how to recover health, you fucking shill.

He has no actual argument so he instead made an axiomatic claim. The axiom, however, is obviously not remotely true.

No one gives a shit if people don't enjoy Eternal. But being Yas Forums incels they all try to pretend that that's somehow the fault of the game

>It's shit because I couldn't finish it

He already answered that. Read the thread.

If you don't lose health you don't have to glory kill you fucking retard.

Do you want every game to zoom in on your enemy as you deliver a finishing blow in a patented cinematic way? I mean, I guess some like the whole press button to awesome thing, there's a reason why God of War was super popular.

If you dash into projectiles you can die pretty quickly, at least above hurt me plenty- you still have to maintain situational awareness.

It is kind of designed as a crutch. If you are good enough to keep your health or armor up , you shouldn't need it, so what's the problem?

you don't get into the grooves of playing a character? every game I play while relaxing, I just cruise through the firefights - like riding a bike, you do it naturally and with little thought.
Now imagine if you were riding your bike and the brakes locked up every 5 seconds. That's what its like to play Doom Eternal.

nothing in this you post said is true, and you resorted to seething
either cope with your retardation or go ahead and catch corona-chan or something I don't care

here's fix for you: don't play it lol

nice try, i'm too young to die poster. the game was shitty and not fun, i'm cleansing my pallet with some comfy scythe 2 as we speak to get the taste of shit painkiller out of my mouth

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ok hugo

And yet watching the doom marine reload the shotgun for the millionth time while you can't shoot is totally fine.

The backbends people will do
>mad because bad

>no timestamp
good job saving this pic from a poster that actually played the game, seethey

open the codex and go look at the glory kill tip, you stupid fucking shill faggot.
reload animations are not the same as being forc

Sounds like your brain has faulty synapses user

OH FUCK MARAUDER SHOOT HIS EYES WHEN THEYRE GREEN HOP DASH SHOOT RUN GLORY KILL RELOAD FUCK YEAH SHOOT EVERY WEAPON IN A ROW CHAINSAW MMMMMMMM

>Look how inteligent I am. I know how to pronounce axiomatic claim.
Kill yourself.

you literally ripped that from the thread last night you butt goblin.

i'm too young to die cope continues, shilling by paid advertisers continues. janny trannies continue to be worthless and not move all of these shit threads to /vg/.

just don't do the glory kills lmao

why are you taking so much damage that you feel the need to glory kill every 5 seconds instead of just getting by on the plenty of health pickups laying around in every map
why are you so bad at video games and instead of realizing this, you blame the game and everyone that enjoys it
and the biggest question is why didn't your mother abort you when she had the chance

You being a moron who needs basic logical operations explained to them doesn't make me intelligent.

>It is kind of designed as a crutch. If you are good enough to keep your health or armor up , you shouldn't need it, so what's the problem?
It also ties into your core gameplay mechanics because you have to charge up your blood punch somehow, unless you don't want to use it. You also have to do it to use the go fast rune, but I guess that doesn't count either because you don't have to use it. And let's not forget the chainsaw if you need ammo, but you can just not use that either, right?

>implying
you stupid fucking shill faggots were wrong last night, and your fucking wrong today. you have shit taste and enjoy bad fucking games that were made for the lowest common denominator of shitter. kill yourselves please so we can actually get a real doom game instead of this shit painkiller clone that you have to press E FOR EPIC VICTORY ROYALE every fucking heavy enemy.

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>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOW CAN PEOPLE DISCUSS GAMES ON Yas Forums THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING AAAAHHH
also fuck off, you still never shown any hard proof of actually owning this game

the game is designed around them
you wont have any ammo if you dont do them
and you cant just skip enemies because you get locked in a room until you kill all of them

You repeatedly make the same demonstrably false claims to justify being so fucking retarded you couldn't adapt to gameplay changes.

>Mentioning one of the most popular WADs on earth in an attempt to show how into Doom you are
More people have probably played Scythe 2 than Doom 2 faggot. Why the fuck would you come here and pretend to be a Doom fan? Do you know how fucking retarded you sound? This is the equivalent of saying "Yeah I'm a total gamer, I play Sims all the time :) "

you still have direct control over the player when you jump, you can switch directions. except in maybe games like oddworld abes odysee or prince of persia. but that is a puzzle game, you have to aim your trajectory before jumping.
But in every other game, you have complete control of your character while jumping. You can jump and shoot. You can jump and turn to land properly. In some games you can reload while jumping and in others you can activate a jetpack (Halo Reach, Duke Nukem).
Lets not mention some games have movement based around jumping. This includes half life and quake. These games have an art to their jumping, and learning how to master bhopping gives you a considerable advantage in-game.

Can you master glory kills? Is any player better at glory killing than the other? No, because its not a gameplay skill.
Go fuck yourself.

you get ammo through chainsaw and pickups tho
as for health, just use the freeze grenade

>kill demons without glorykilling also recovers some health
>pocking up a medkit recovers health
>blood punching recovers health
>after an upgrade, damaging frozen enemies recovers health
If you're actually good at the game you can easily complete whole encounters without Glorykilling or using the chainsaw

>can't adapt to gameplay
>beat the game on hardest difficulty
>never posted any proof of his finished game
>i'm too young to seethe posters still shilling stupid shit and telling people who are better than them to learn bad mechanics
You are shit at bad games and even worse at good ones, kill yourself shill.

Get good, shitskin lmao

The glory kills are designed in such a way that they immediately expose shitters. There are health and ammo pickups lying around all over the place- if you can't keep your health up without over-reliance on them, you probably need to drop the difficulty and git gud

Glory kills don't give you ammo.

You need to chainsaw maaayyybe twice for the longer fights if you are decent.

Doom Eternal sold more then just about every other Doom game combined
You really think the next one is gonna be some radical departure from the last two games now LMAO
Maybe you should start coping now so you won't go on an autistic rampage for like 7 god damned months over the leadup to this game

I love this meme.

Just get ammo from exploding barrels.

The glory kills didn't bother me in DOOM 2016, but they felt pretty optional in that one. They kind of annoy me a bit in Eternal because they seem far more necessary.

>sold more than every other doom combined
>doom eternal is currently on more computers than microsoft windo

sir, thats exactly what I'm going to do after I have farmed enough (You)s
Are you new?

You have Dusk, Amid Evil, Ion Fury and maybe some more for that, fuck off.

>Can you master glory kills? Is any player better at glory killing than the other?
Actually yes because going for Glory Kills every single chance you get is a great way to get yourself killed on Ultra-Violence and ESPECIALLY Nightmare

There are ammo pickups- you definitely don't need to use the chainsaw

>doom eternal is currently on more computers than microsoft windows
ok retard.

"why isn't the game more of 2016?"

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Yes, sold more
Doom was more or less given out for free like right after it came out

No, I think he is mentioning Scythe 2 because it's good senpai. It's always nice to mention good wads so more people can know about them.

You've never posted a timestamp and you can change the games difficulty at any time. On top of that you have repeatedly lied about the game.

Why the fuck would anyone believe your obvious lies??

It had the best OPENING WEEK you stupid faggot

>Durr hurr why we didn't get the same fucking shit that got stale 20 years ago
Fuck off inbred.

GUYS WHAT THE FUCK cutscenes plays everytime when iI reload the gun!!!