This series always give me a vibe of "commercial made by slightly out of touch boomers trying to appease to the kids"...

This series always give me a vibe of "commercial made by slightly out of touch boomers trying to appease to the kids" like some sort of tang commercial.

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They did a great job with the design, lore, universe, and characters. I got it at launch and was taken in by the hype but within a few months, it became obvious the maps were poorly done and were just fighting at one checkpoint to the next.

>They did a great job with the design, lore, universe, and characters

it's basically a conglomeration of "hey, what does the general audience like?" materials, rounded up by a general blizzard committee. the game has basically no merging theme other than "lol superheroes"

this is why you have the hog and the rat ("fury road did good at the box office, right?") near to to the fucking gamer girl in a mecha suit

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It's exactly that however add Arnold Tsang into the equation resulting in actually gorgeous females, resulting in great porn.
t. para mi, es dva and widowmaker

>series

>They did a great job with the design, lore, universe, and characters. I got it at launch and was taken in by the hype
I think you are a brain damaged retard.

You think it will stop on 1 or 2? it's blizzard we're talking about here, just watch em re-sell this same game 30 times.

>could've given widowmaker a kino revenge story about an innocent women forced into a global conspiracy and slowly breaking free to enact bloody vengeance
>instead the only thing your TEAM of writers put out in 3 years is saying who is gay or not

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I bet you're white.

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>Yas Forums is still buttmad about Overwatch for extremely vague reasons
lol

Maps are pretty shit in this game, and there's so few of them. They lack any verticality and invisible barriers are abound. Also stupid that you can't stand on roofs or certain high objects.

>vague
It's Blizzard and it's popular. All the reason contrarian Yas Forums needs.

Overwatch has some of the shittiest art/character design in a modern AAA game out there dude. The characters look like models ripped from other games and then have gundam parts and neon lights randomly glued on.

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Not played since launch. How did this role queue nonsense manage to make matches worse than ever? Seemingly you need to be a blind monkey to play as dps role.

>They did a great job with the lore
Name one(1) interesting thing about the lore.

Nothing vague about being the worst balanced multiplayer game in the last decade. Remember when OWL was supposed to become the biggest e-sports ever?

>it's the worst game of the last decade but it's getting a sequel, constant updates and has millions of players worldwide
talk about cope

Shit, millions of flies, etc
It being popular doesn't mean it's not bad, it means it has vapid broad appeal to shitters

Overwatch is the most "AAA" game ever made, a massive effort to make huge amounts of money by making the "safest" game possible and marketing it to as many demographics as you can. The problem with this approach is that marketing researchers are still too retarded to understand what makes things popular, and that people are usually smart enough to realize when they're being blatantly pandered to. It's pretty telling that the game's popularity declined as soon as Blizzard stopped promoting it and marketing it literally everywhere.

>Team writes comics and cinematics and shit
>It's written like a 13 year old deviantarts fanfic that tells you more about a characters sexuality or their favorite food than the cataclysmic event that took place
>"I used to have fun, I used to have a normal life, I used to have a hot sexy boyfriend, BUT THAT WAS BEFORE....." to be continued

>it's shit because I don't like it
keep coping, dude

now you will bring up TF2's comics like some kind of genius writing

What buzzword will he think of next? Seethe? Maybe dilate? We've got a real fucking winner here folks. Tell me, have you ever had an individual thought or opinion of your own? Are you even a real fucking human, can you be called that when all you do is spit out 5 or 6 of the same words over and over like a broken AI stuck in a loop? What are you adding to the conversation at hand? What are you accomplishing? What the fuck are you?

lots of words, not one argument.
the average overwatch hater on Yas Forums, trannies and gentlemen!

>sequel
its literally an expansion

No, the comics are gay as fuck and make the game worse. But the game itself isn't structured around some deep gay lore. You can play it and ignore everything. But the marketing material for overwatch is always talking about some gay proxy war between factions and a robot uprising or some shit, and then the game does nothing for that. TF2 is just the red guys can the blue guys and the game itself doesn't raise these kinds of retarded questions

>But the game itself isn't structured around some deep gay lore.
neither is Overwatch, what are you talking about?

>But the marketing material for overwatch is always talking about some gay proxy war between factions and a robot uprising or some shit, and then the game does nothing for that.
ok? do you have any solid evidence that people play OW because of the lore?

>TF2 is just the red guys can the blue guys and the game itself doesn't raise these kinds of retarded questions
And OW is one team of 6 against another team of 6 without any restrictions based on "lore". I really don't understand your point. You could just say that you don't like the game's setting and be done with it.

It’s called chokepointwatch for a reason. The story is weird because it’s marketed like a motherfucker but it doesn’t have any real presence in the game itself. The devs are really lazy and slow at making new playable maps.

Updates that make the game significantly worse lmao. Remember Moth meta? Remember GOATs? Remember bunker and double sniper? All that shit was so bad people are actually wishing for dive back, and dive was terrible. Every new hero is either useless or breaks the game. Half the cast is pointless to play at any given time. Blizzard can't balance for shit.

And that's not even getting into shit like not having player bans and not having low priority queue for anti competitive play like one tricking. All the industry standard shit. The game doesn't even have fucking scoreboards.

To be fair, Chu completely borked the possibility of any interesting storylines. He did JK Rowling tier twitter lore too. All of it terrible.

>game has metas that get changed with every update
wow sounds like a dead game

Been thinking about this.
Would removing tanks improve the game? Also not forcing any 4 dps - 2 Support rule, just pick one character per player.
It would make easy to pick support characters actually be less viable and a bit more technical supports way more rewarding.

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Blizzard here, commander keen is a bissexual furry

Yes, unbalanced mirror metas where everyone is forced to play the same comp because everything else is rendered unplayable. Remember when moth meta lasted for an entire year, with mercy being so overpowered she was on every single team every single game, but the devs said they didn't see the problem because her winrate was balanced? That's the kind of retards that are in charge of OW.

There shouldn't be main tanks or main healers that are basically obligatory to have on every team. The game would be much better if it was just hybrids and DPS.

Watch OW2 be a hilarious failure. When Valorant comes out Overwatch League will die off completely too. They already lost 3/4th of their viewership moving to Youtube and it's still dropping.

Hard thing is how to rework the characters, I see what you mean and that is actually a nice way to change things up and make the game more skill based.
Dunno, been pondering this cause I saw some Echo gameplay and goddamn she looks actually fun to use, not to mention copying another character to get its Ult does require some thinking.

Then its time to Overwatch 3

They already have no clue what they're doing for OW1. How are they going to have any solid ideas for OW3? Remember, this is/was project Titan, something they were working on for almost a decade.

The problem is they won't diverge from the holy trinity. Ana was one of the most interesting concepts to come out the game but they just turned her into another healbot. Another thing that has made balance completely impossible is the ultimates. They're so powerful they define the game and the devs are stuck trying to work around them. It's why the meta keeps turning into mirror comps. If you don't have the right ult synergy at high level the game it's almost an automatic loss.

"brrr printer prints new overwatch"

>sequel
All it adds is a singleplayer campaign that is equivalent to a stretched out reskinned seasonal event. Oh, and they're adding like 5-6 new heroes at the same time which are guaranteed to ruin the balance for another year or so because the OW devs like to ignore player feedback until it reaches a boiling point, after which they do number tweaks that take months to release instead of weeks.

The way they've designed the game makes barriers mandatory. There's very little ability to make use of cover so without them the snipers and hitscans dominate.

No that's stupid. Turning everything into midrange/hybrid/I can do anything characters is how you ruin a game. Take a look at League of Legends to see how it turns out.

An ideally balanced game would allow for a everything to be viable (except probably full healer/support) with nothing mandatory. Tanks should exist as highly niche characters that have difficulty killing anything but can shield, crowd control, or otherwise interfere with the enemy team and protect your DPS. Making all tanks capable of just killing people almost as easily as your DPS characters is what made for bad design. Map design making it difficult to flank also encourages chokepoints for which tanks are basically mandatory.

tl;dr Overwatch has a bunch of problems and a shit meta, but you misunderstand why and suggest something that would actively make the game worse.

>Take a look at League of Legends to see how it turns out
One the most enduringly popular games on the planet with the most succesful esports scene by a mile?

>An ideally balanced game would allow for a everything to be viable (except probably full healer/support) with nothing mandatory
And how exactly would you propose they achieve this perfect ideal?

It's not a sequel though. It's a glorified Mann vs Machine update with a $60 price tag

>Tanks should exist as highly niche characters that have difficulty killing anything but can shield, crowd control, or otherwise interfere with the enemy team and protect your DPS
That's exactly what they are now, numbnuts. Shield tanks are mandatory simply because they exist. The team that doesn't pick them loses. And without them snipers dominate. The problems run much deeper than map design.

>HURR MILLIONS OF FLIES FLOCK TO SHIT OVERWATCH IS A BAD GAME
>HURR LEAGUE OF LEGENDS IS ONE OF THE MOST ENDURINGLY POPULAR GAMES ON THE PLANET SO IT MUST BE GOOD
Shut the fuck up you hypocritical piece of shit. If you're just looking at how popular something is to measure quality than Overwatch is orders of magnitude better than the vast majority of games including SotC, Deus Ex, Dead Space, RE4, Dark Souls, Bloodborne, Halo 2, Ocarina of Time, and whatever shitty games you like.

The only tank that has any difficulty killing something is Winston. Reinhardt, Zarya, and D.Va all have respectable DPS.

If they get in, sure, but they take a lot of damage doing so. They're helpless without healers and they struggle to corner and finish anyone off on their own.

>compares overwatch to a bunch of singleplayer games from a completely different era to try and make it look good
Haha, oh wow. That's not even mentioning the fact that OW is/was clearly striving to be the next league of legends. OWL is a 500 million dollar esports league that can barely even pull 50k viewers. The game is a joke on every level. The only thing it has successfully accomplished is making Blizzdrone wallets lighter while slowly disillusioning them of the idea that the devs know what they're doing.

I bought it

Ffs give Widowmaker her own Game.

yeah from launch up until the first new hero I was enjoying the game, but the more times I played the same maps the more obvious it became that there won't be that much longevity
no matter how many new heroes they add the maps will still boil down to the same encounters most rounds
also as someone who played tons of Soldier 76 I felt like the devs were intentionally fucking me over repeatedly, I imagine most people who played aim-based characters feel the same way

They ignored Soldier 76 for more than 10 seasons straight. You could tell things were headed in the wrong direction when they replaced him with Tracer in all the promo material even though he was the jack of all trades. I always played Soldier or Pharah as DPS but both of them gradually fell out. You can't even play Pharah without Mercy anymore, and even then it rarely works. Echo is going to completely replace her.

I honestly have no idea what Roadhog is supposed to be. He tanks by huffing gas?

Seriously I think Blizzard world and lunar colony might be the only map with decent flanking options

2CP maps are an abomination.