Americans think it’s one of the best FF

Didn't have their fashion model twig lightning

80 IQ man-child weeb filtered.

I don’t know anyone who’s actually played through this game and thought it was good

>lightning trilogy
Objectively top-3 after 7 and 8.

Because it appeals to western standards
Japan doesnt like western tastes unless japanese shit is slid in somewhere
>Berserk- little gay faerie and fem boys and rape
>dragons dogma - frying into fuhree
>dark souls - waifu characters like the maidens or fire keepers

>Americans think it’s one of the best FF
Do Euro's really?

No, western political rpgs are actually interesting because they have roleplaying.

add Way of The Samurai which is the only Japanese series I can think of that does this.

Despite coming up with the best games, Japs have irredeemable shit taste.

>people in japan like things that people in japan like more than what people in western countries like
woah... that's wild dude....

Does anyone know a site that gives a story recap in chronological spoiler free order? I'm playing this for the first time but only play an hour or so each day and have a bad memory so keep forgetting why I'm doing what I'm about to do. I looked but only see ones with spoilers mixed in from the start.

it's the other way around

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>Balthier and Fran are a cool couple
>FF Music
>you could set up your allies to be unstoppable machines that can play out any situation you plan out perfectly
This is about all the good things the game has. I played it until slightly after the "I'm Bache" segment but the gameplay feels terrible and that I'd rather let the ai takeover for me instead.

Dark Souls kinda needs the waifus since Maiden in Black and Stockpile Thomas telling you that "You have a heart of gold" as a duo balanced out Demon's Souls dark atmosphere and Dark Souls is just Demon's Souls please don't sue us

Americans are fedoras.
Japanese people are intelligent.

nips like boring ass archaic turn-based gameplay over real time

xii is one of the best rpgs ever made. it's too good to be a final fantasy. sakimoto's score, the nuanced plot, the mature characters - of course jrpg fans would hate it.

and yeah it's more western rpg than jrpg. inspired dragon age origins' battle system even

you're an idiot

I cringe

u gay

I wouldn't even say they're a good couple but I liked Fran. She was the only thing about the game that felt Final Fantasy-y, in the few cutscenes where she displayed her personality. And I mean few, there are like three.

He's completely right though. Even the music was just okay, it was like FFT but more generic.

FF12, 13-123 and 15 are all absolutely terrible games aside from FF14 which is a MMO the last good singleplayer title was 10.

There has not been a good FF game in 14 years that is longer than half this board has even been alive so its pretty amazing that the 7 Remake looks as good as it does.

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Westcucks have an inherent need to appear intelligent and mature by clinging to the "political" aspects of the story. Nips understand that having fun is the most important thing with video games.

I didn't like it, dropped it after you get to that temple in the mountains. It felt very cookie cutter, ie, you go to town, end up going to a dungeon, you go to another town, etc, it did a poor job of investing me.

>>FF Music
12 has an okay soundtrack that sounds nothing like FF. I haven't looked but I'd bet uematsu touched the main theme and nothing else.

It's a more complex and open-ended game.
Japanese 'gamers' (30 year old Boomers in some ways) are more inclined to FF4 or Dragon Quest.

I liked Crisis Core. I'm sure I'll continue to like it more than the remake even.

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Care to recommend me some WRPGs that actually pulled it off? Most of them that I played is just "ancient evil awakened, and you're the chosen one with donut steel powers".

They just hated Vaan

Japs hate faggot characters

story features lots of politics, americans love to circlejerk about that, nips don't care about that they just want cute girls

>inspired dragon age origins
Shhh, there are WRPG fans who don't want to admit this.

I don't think they really liked any of the characters. They're all pretty bad.

Beware of western tastes. If they like a game there can be:
- fag characters
- ugly characters
- horrible plot
- english dub

10 literally ruined the series and removed 90% of what makes a Final Fantasy interesting to become a movie game but FFXII is somehow the problem. At least you're playing the fucking game instead of pressing up until you reach the end screen

this game is way too smart for Americans, I don't buy it

>At least you're playing the fucking game

You want to know how I know you've never played FFXII?

Matsuno games are objectively better than anything Nomura has made in literally every way and there is a reason he released 3 of the most critically acclaimed in the history of the franchise and Nomura hasn't been able to release a single good game in more than a decade.

You're a massive brainless faggot if you think that a system designed to allow you to have full control over your characters means you don't play the game.
You spend 90% of your time in FFX just using the right character for the right monster with 0 thoughts needed. Literally RPS gameplay.

FFX is fine. FFXII isn't fine because it took cues from the MMO. 12 onwards weren't even real FFs. They are Squeenix games.

>nips
>having shitatse
What else is new?

So what is your opinion on the remake so far Yas Forums?

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>it took cues from the MMO
I'm pretty sure everyone who said this never played any WRPG, because XII actually took cues from KotOR.

You know Sakaguchi was the one who greenlit and allowed Matsuno to become the director? You know he is a massive fan of Matsuno to the point that he praised Matsuno do much during the FFXII reveal that Japanese internet thought he was gay?
Saying it's a square enix game is retarded, it's Nomurz and Kitase that destroyed the franchise and made FFX and FFXIII. Not Matsuno and Ito, the latter who literally created the ATB and job system.

Soullless as all fuck and my voice feels lost in a wave of goyims cheering.

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story seems to be a mess, characters are cute tho

Didn't play the demo, but from what I've seen the combat looks very weak and not satisfying, which is standard for modern squeenix. Also being split into multiple parts is really really not a good sign.

god damn her head is big

Niebelheim is now Texas

It's the same idea. Combat and gameplay loop wise it's MMO-like rather than how FF7-10 played with minigames and other things besides the random battles.

Yes but the merge completely fucked everything up. Remember when Matsuno became "sick"? The game that came out isn't what Square wanted.

And like I already said, FFX was fine.

X-2 is better than X in every possible way aside from maybe the soundtrack (but even that's close)

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>doesn't address my point
>only rebuttal is that "FFX was fine"
This is the brain of FFXII haters

I really don't get this, Niebelheim was clearly a Germanic town even the name sounds like it. Why turn it into a desert town?

is there a game series, where burgers think one entry is the best, europoors another and nips a third?

>>doesn't address my point
Your point is uninformed because you apparently don't know about hte rocky dev cycle. Then you go on to hating on other devs because you don't like their games.

But the fact is that FFX is more liked and when you're comparing the gameplay of both it will come out on top. Where FF12 is just a single player MMO with almost nothing to do other than run around battling, FFX has a myriad of activities and memorable NPCs to engage. It's a better JRPG and it has a better story and characters.

Also you calling me a FFXII hater is disingenuous and it's common for 12 fanboys. I've played the game three times.

It's you who I dislike more than anything because you're overrating the game.

I don't know why people pretend it wasn't good. I had played every FF from 4 to 10 by that point back in 2006 and when I played FF12 in release day I thought that was the tightest shit I had ever played.
>You start the game with Rabanastre being so huge you could spend two hours just talking to people and being lost roaming around.
>That city alone was bigger than every area combined of the first 10 hours of FF10.
>Then you would walk into the desert and just explore for hours and hours just figuring out how deep that would go.
I had never experienced this in a FF to the point that I was scared of going too far and never be able to come back. Remember the previous single-player mainline FF was a game that you could beat by holding up in the joystick 95% of the time and backtracking was actively discouraged.

Also that game was finally the first challenging mainline FF in the entire history of the series. Bosses actually made you think about your setup, and then endgame bosses had gimmicks to them that forced you to change your gambits. You actually had to use buffs and debuffs, status ailments actually mattered, getting a better weapon made a huge difference, and even if you messed up hard you had access to three reserve party members to save yourself from a bad spot instead of having an instant game over the moment your current party died.

That shit was dope as fuck. I don't know why people pretend it wasn't. FF10 wasn't even a game, you could spend 200 hours in FF12 and still have to do actual content you have never seen before. By that time in FF10 you're capturing every enemy 10 times in a row and convincing yourself it's fun. And the fucking music bros...that shit had so much soul

youtu.be/jfFTEQqdhyk

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You're just retarded is all.

I know >mods will fix it is supposed to be a meme, but I honestly can't wait for it to come to PC. As long as the skeleton is in place, no matter how begrudgingly, fans will know what to do. Like George Lucas releasing the low-quality versions of the original trilogy to shill the Special Editions provided enough raw footage to eventually give us the Despecialized Editions from fans which fix everything.

Are you joking? Most of FFXII is side content. FFX hardly has anything and what it has is shit like dodging thunder 200 times, which is not my idea of fun.

Because Tifa wore a cowboy hat. That's literally it.

I doubt it. Modern modders are typically making things like that especially for games like this. RE2/3 are good examples of the kind of mods we'll get at best, in my opinion.

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>not turn based is bad!
Shut the fuck up retarded oldfag. Turn based fucking sucks, no one likes to play low level strategy games where you only have to press attack with the occasional spell and potion inbetweenY
Turn based games fucking suck

You're pretty dumb, aren't you?
>Where FF12 is just a single player MMO with almost nothing to do other than run around battling
This is what I said. Your "side content" is running around battling.

You might not like dodging lightning but that as well as the other things to do make the gameplay loop more fleshed out than battling over and over, and over.

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