Hl Alyx Non-VR

pretty much and a bunch of other enhancements

More proof that HL:A is just tech demo.

thats all i want. better physics

the game seems to be very simple and if you just removed the vr elements the wonder would just go away, so what's even the point unless you're really that poor and desperate that you can't just wait a couple of months/years of saving until you can afford a decently cheap vr headset

>garry.tv/half-life-alyx
>Alyx is a masterpiece

GMOD 2 SOON

>it's ok when bethesda does it

That's cool and all since I don't own a VR headset but what's the point really of playing a game solely designed for and around VR gimmicks?

Cool, now how do you pick up and track their ammo?

i dont care for HL but i will get a VR headset for gmod2 desu

Why not go the other way and have Alyx playing through HL2/EP1/2?

isn't he making s&box

>remove VR
this just sounds wrong to me. You would basically be patching in a new control scheme, not "removing" the existing one. Its not like the made the whole game and then turned VR to ON. It doesn't work like that.

This. Playing through HL2 and the eps in VR would be awesome as long as you can FUCKING SPRINT

Better question is how do you interact with something with one hand while shooting with the other.

Just spamming warps goes pretty quick.

not gmod 2 if I cant do this
youtube.com/watch?v=N5TWbeav7hI

Source please

Why the fuck is VR so vehemently defended, buyers remorse?

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because people enjoy it, its really unique and whats going to happen is anons are going to play Alyx without VR and claim its boring. missing the point of the game

Did you think ANY vr was any different?
The only real difference is a bit of physics coding, some graphical changes to make the VR work and some stricter boneworks.

Next I'm gonna fucking bamboozle you with shit like how an MMO is just a singleplayer game with remote controlled npcs.

That's literally what every "new" game engine is. Source is based on GoldSRC which was based on the Quake engine

I like it.

This does raise a rather interesting question. Does VR only really give the illusion of complexity? Like, could VR turn a mediocre game into a decent one?
Cause if you played Alyx without VR, a lot of the flaws of the game become more apparent (i.e. lackluster combat and dumb AI).

>remove the driving mechanics from a racing game
>woow it so boring, all you do is walk down a track?

desu it's not gmod if it's not on source
this makes me so mad, why the fuck would I play a sandbox game on unreal?! at this point you can just make your own game

what makes gmod and the add-on devs so great is the restrictions that source provides
imagine if we had none

>do game mechanics give the illusion of complexity?
>might be interesting to see if additional game mechanics turn a boring game into a good one

literally this, im calling it now this will happen

Nah, it doesn't add complexity. It does make simple games much more engaging.

>change combat to be from a game from 2004
bad combat
>change how the AI works to be from a game from 2004
bad ai
thats stupid user.

> thinks HL2 Rocket Launcher is gay
What's wrong with you user?

its aight but like eh. the only good gun is the revolver anyway the reason sandbox build&kills die is like of good weapons bases like CW2.0.

Still no source to this

is lack of *
what I mean is Sandbox servers on Gmod always use some garbage like TFA or M9K and ik M9K is classic but its unironically shit.

>Why is 3D so vehemently defended, buyers remorse?
t. man angry he had to buy a N64 back in 1996

Bethesda gets shat on for it the whole time, and you mentioned them just shows how you contradict yourself, autismo.

Shotgun always felt very satisfying to me in HL2, it's pretty meaty especially for the Zombies and Combine Grunts, I do agree though that a lot of the HL2 weapons are on the lighter side of things, Pulse Rifle in particular is underwhelming given how bulky the thing looks.

its clearly shooped
that isnt the right analogy VR should ENHANCE games not get rid of non-vr games. it should be its own separate thing

They find it fun and worth investing their interest in, buyers remorse is a moot point when if you don't enjoy the headset you can easily just sell it to the hordes of normies clamouring for them right now. It really shouldn't be a hard concept especially since Yas Forums is rife with terrible, poorly made bait shitposting by underaged faggots who will dilute any actual discussion or schizos who can't fathom people having opinions outside of their own.

It does so little damage and maybe because of F.E.A.R I have high standards for shotguns
youtu.be/iPn2Ite3u7s?t=14
even the HL1 is better sounding

Are we getting vr counter strike?

Pavlov

its called fucking source 2

That's not what your picture shows at all.

VR turns something like throwing a grenade into a far more complex process which is hard to emulate with a mouse and keyboard.
In a traditional game:
press button, aim grenade, forget.
in HL:A:
Equip grenade from wrist pocket/pick it up off the ground or surface, press button to arm grenade, throw grenade using real life trajectory and power
overall it is a ton more interactive for something so simple. This effects pretty much every mechanic in the game from the puzzles to shooting to movement so it makes it seem like its got a lot more depth than it really does. Honestly most people will be bored out of their minds playing this game outside of VR because overall its so simple and simply pressing a button to reload or switch guns or pick up an item and move it will make the game much easier, and fighting standard zombies or combine that the game has will be boring.

A mod will need to add enemies to most of the encounters to make it even a little fun outside of VR.

and yes, VR adds a lot of complexity or the illusion of complexity.

VR is an incredibly fun but underdeveloped medium that's filled mostly with archer sims and gun range sims
It needs more time and investment by developers like Valve that have historically innovated on genres in the past.
One question that's easily answerable is why is VR so hated and that reason is poorfags can only experience it through youtube.

Source 2 is based on source, which is based on goldsrc, which is a modified quake engine

yes exactly

wtf happened with the Black Mesa one, it's unusually high pitched the HL1 and HL2 ones have that much deeper blast sound to them, also it's weird I always though there was more difference in the sound for a single shell vs double shell but none of the games really have that. If you had HL2 for the Single Shell and HL1HD for the Double Shell it'd sound very distinctive then.

pulse rifle also has some pretty powerful sounding SFX which make it feel more powerful than it is though the alt fire is crazy and fun to use.

so HL3 will suck if it's VR

this guy

trust me I've played it. It would be an otherwise nothing special shooter. This game doesn't do anything other games haven't already done (better). The catch is how engrossed you are with the experience. valve did an excellent job with motion capturing your hand movements, reloading guns, gunplay in general, and the movement does not make you dizzy after extended use.

Yeah the Bouncy Ball Alt-Fire is great, it's a shame the other weapons don't have such weird and experimental options.

I kinda wish we'd gotten the Hunter's Quill Gun though, that thing has the best SFX especially from the Quills themselves.

You're just jaded user. Try to have some fun.

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Fucking this. I'm so shit at VR throwing, that one part in the train station part where you had to throw a grenade into a vent the locker had to respawn another set of grenades.

But that's also the problem with VR. It doesn't add anything, it actually takes away. You lose so much simplicity and constancy in basic actions. The minute to minute gameplay becomes so much more interesting, but it's basically eating with chopsticks.

Seeing classic HL2 gameplay in a current gen looking map made me feel like a kid again. And not only that, it's also about the possibilities it brings to the table. Source 2 looks very similar to Source 1 so I kinda expect the community to not be impacted by the engine change.

Just thinking about the potential mods that'll come out makes me fucking hyped.

Who knows vidya shotguns are so fucking hit and miss literally and figuratively
I like the CW2.0 guns its just HL2 weapons that suck.

I won't disagree that its cool as fuck on paper and fun in practice but as it stands Alyx is literally the only game that takes itself seriously as a game and not as a tech demo.
If Alyx is the kick in the ass VR needs to start seriously claiming industry real estate then great, but if it doesn't oh well.

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Why the fuck is VR so vehemently attacked?

>2.4k hours in Gmod
Oh you're one of those faggots

yea I know gm_bigcity better than my own home

>t. 2.4k hours in Gmod
brother
god I miss it sometimes

>It's been out for 3 days and people already figured out how to turn off VR entirely.
No they haven't you stupid fucking retard, you can't play through the game like this

>if it's VR
Valve isn't going back to 2D games after HL:A lol.

Tbh I'd play the game both ways. Classic and VR mode so it's a win-win for me.

unironically poor fags that and virgins with weak genes that get motion sickness

it'll be more realistic cause you're not doomguy tier who can hold 50 weapons and aimbot people with a point and click mouse you actually have to have real life skill to aim, shoot, reload and learn how to use weapons
most faggots playing alyx don't even know how guns work they chamber the gun while there's still a bullet in the chamber just wasting ammo

poor fags.
t. poor fag.
If I wanted to get into VR I'd have to completely start from scratch because my current rig cant do it, and that's not even factoring in the cost of a not shit headset.
I mean shit I can't even do 4k.

Same I always came back to it after finding a good Sandbox server with a good mix of PVP and building but they always died to PVP'ers getting to greedy.

I never played multiplayer

>Home consoles should enhance arcade games, not get rid of arcade machines

my single player doesnt work I have over 1k addons I have about 4 HUD's and 1billion script errors
Controllers, driving wheels and flight sticks. are more like VR than arcades user.

>TFW get nauseous playing oblivion with no VR

Perfect. I've wanted to play HL Alyx but god, if I can't handle oblivion normally VR would totally annihilate me.

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>t. 2.4k hours in Gmod
If anyone knows gay it's you.

>Nausea inducing, gimmicky trash
>Replacing normal games ever

Try again when people don't want to toss their cookies playing the games and you have more than 2 genres.

Yea and with my powers of gay detecting its you.

I haven't played since 2016 but when I stopped I had 80+gb of addons and maps with a literal 20 minute boot time for the game

I don't even own a VR headset and it's obvious that if a game has been designed for VR (you can check some puzzles), then taking that away is like those flashgames versions of console games on Newgrounds

>YWN joyfully install a bunch of gmod addons and ridiculous weapons from that one website and test them out on gm_construct while listening to trash music without a care in the world again

bros.......it hurts.............

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